JoeB131
Diamond Member
Just for you, MartyBegan
Shaking in their terror of Hillary in 2016, Republicans cling to the hope that once again, someone like Obama can stop her in the primaries because they know all their candidates are awful.
They fail to understand why Obama beat her. Seriously, I had a poster spew some Talk-Radio crap about how Democrats cared more about race than gender, like that was a real thing.
Okay, here's what derailed Hillary in 2008, and it had nothing to do with her skin tone or genitalia.
1) The Iraq Vote - By 2008, the Democratic Base was in a lather about Iraq - a war based on lies that the country had clearly rejected in 2006 and was still being fought. Hillary had voted for that war. Obama had opposed the war even when they were running war heroes like Max Cleland out of Congress for not supporting it enthusiastically enough. In short, they saw in Hillary political calculation and in Obama political principle.
In 2016, Iraq will probably not be a factor. If it is, it will be a guy like Jim Webb who can challenge Hillary on it because he has a strong military record.
2) Poor Organization - Hillary did a bad job of planning the long range campaign. Not only letting the DNC disqualify early primary states she had an edge in, but not having any organization in place after Super Tuesday. This allowed Obama to rack up delegates in the later primaries and garner "Superdelegate" support. She actually got more votes, nationally. Didn't help under the rules in place.
In 2016, she won't make that mistake again.
3) Clinton Fatigue - A lot of Democrats felt that a return to Clinton would be a return to all the Clinton scandal mongering by the GOP. Did we really want to suffer through a whole campaign talking about Vince Foster and the Mythical Mena Airport? Obama was fresh and new and shiny.
Won't be a factor next time. Given that Obama has made Republicans FAR crazier than Bill Clinton ever did, they'd probably perfer someone who will punch back.
Shaking in their terror of Hillary in 2016, Republicans cling to the hope that once again, someone like Obama can stop her in the primaries because they know all their candidates are awful.
They fail to understand why Obama beat her. Seriously, I had a poster spew some Talk-Radio crap about how Democrats cared more about race than gender, like that was a real thing.
Okay, here's what derailed Hillary in 2008, and it had nothing to do with her skin tone or genitalia.
1) The Iraq Vote - By 2008, the Democratic Base was in a lather about Iraq - a war based on lies that the country had clearly rejected in 2006 and was still being fought. Hillary had voted for that war. Obama had opposed the war even when they were running war heroes like Max Cleland out of Congress for not supporting it enthusiastically enough. In short, they saw in Hillary political calculation and in Obama political principle.
In 2016, Iraq will probably not be a factor. If it is, it will be a guy like Jim Webb who can challenge Hillary on it because he has a strong military record.
2) Poor Organization - Hillary did a bad job of planning the long range campaign. Not only letting the DNC disqualify early primary states she had an edge in, but not having any organization in place after Super Tuesday. This allowed Obama to rack up delegates in the later primaries and garner "Superdelegate" support. She actually got more votes, nationally. Didn't help under the rules in place.
In 2016, she won't make that mistake again.
3) Clinton Fatigue - A lot of Democrats felt that a return to Clinton would be a return to all the Clinton scandal mongering by the GOP. Did we really want to suffer through a whole campaign talking about Vince Foster and the Mythical Mena Airport? Obama was fresh and new and shiny.
Won't be a factor next time. Given that Obama has made Republicans FAR crazier than Bill Clinton ever did, they'd probably perfer someone who will punch back.