Why Have the Arab Muslims in Israel Never even Considered Peace.

[montelatici]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? .

Oh thats an easy one

The Arab Muslims who colonized the area in about the 9th century VE

Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place

Any other questions :--)

Fantasy and science fiction again. Try to provide a serious source that disputes the Governmental data.

Are lies and half truths really all you have to defend the Arab Muslim narrative Diddums.

The fact of the matter is that the Arab Muslims have been desperate to slaughter every man woman and child of Judaic origins within, well everywhere since their Nazi friends lost the war May 8 1945

Even if true, and it isn't. The only people living in Palestine were Christians. Contrary to Hasbara fiction, the Christians of Palestine were permitted to remain Christian when the Arabians took over rule from the Byzantines.

 

[Boston1]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? .

Oh thats an easy one

The Arab Muslims who colonized the area in about the 9th century VE

Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place

Any other questions :--)

Fantasy and science fiction again. Try to provide a serious source that disputes the Governmental data.

Are lies and half truths really all you have to defend the Arab Muslim narrative Diddums.

The fact of the matter is that the Arab Muslims have been desperate to slaughter every man woman and child of Judaic origins within, well everywhere since their Nazi friends lost the war May 8 1945

Even if true, and it isn't. The only people living in Palestine were Christians. Contrary to Hasbara fiction, the Christians of Palestine were permitted to remain Christian when the Arabians took over rule from the Byzantines.

Typical Arab Muslim hasbara

Claim there were no Jooooos around, so its ours.

Brilliant argument

Simply brilliant

Even if there isn't a shred of evidence to back it up.

So while you're ignoring the subject, why is it the Arab Muslims cry death to the infidels so often ? And whats up the Nazi agenda ?

Have the Arab Muslims really never even remotely considered giving peace a chance

 

[montelatici]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? .

Oh thats an easy one

The Arab Muslims who colonized the area in about the 9th century VE

Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place

Any other questions :--)

Fantasy and science fiction again. Try to provide a serious source that disputes the Governmental data.

Are lies and half truths really all you have to defend the Arab Muslim narrative Diddums.

The fact of the matter is that the Arab Muslims have been desperate to slaughter every man woman and child of Judaic origins within, well everywhere since their Nazi friends lost the war May 8 1945

Even if true, and it isn't. The only people living in Palestine were Christians. Contrary to Hasbara fiction, the Christians of Palestine were permitted to remain Christian when the Arabians took over rule from the Byzantines.

Typical Arab Muslim hasbara

Claim there were no Jooooos around, so its ours.

Brilliant argument

Simply brilliant

Even if there isn't a shred of evidence to back it up.

So while you're ignoring the subject, why is it the Arab Muslims cry death to the infidels so often ? And whats up the Nazi agenda ?

Have the Arab Muslims really never even remotely considered giving peace a chance

Of course there were no Jews, Christianity was the state religion at the time. Non-Christians were banned. You really should try to educate yourself.

 

[Hollie]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? .

Oh thats an easy one

The Arab Muslims who colonized the area in about the 9th century VE

Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place

Any other questions :--)

Fantasy and science fiction again. Try to provide a serious source that disputes the Governmental data.

Are lies and half truths really all you have to defend the Arab Muslim narrative Diddums.

The fact of the matter is that the Arab Muslims have been desperate to slaughter every man woman and child of Judaic origins within, well everywhere since their Nazi friends lost the war May 8 1945

Even if true, and it isn't. The only people living in Palestine were Christians. Contrary to Hasbara fiction, the Christians of Palestine were permitted to remain Christian when the Arabians took over rule from the Byzantines.

"When the Arabians took over rule"?

The history you learn at the madrassah is a pitifully inept version of Islamo-history. The Arabians (muhammedan armies) didn't just take over, the muhammedan hordes fought long, bloody wars of conquest and colonization.

 

[Syriusly]

Fantasy and science fiction again. Try to provide a serious source that disputes the Governmental data.

Are lies and half truths really all you have to defend the Arab Muslim narrative Diddums.

The fact of the matter is that the Arab Muslims have been desperate to slaughter every man woman and child of Judaic origins within, well everywhere since their Nazi friends lost the war May 8 1945

Speaking of lies.

20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs- and they haven't been 'desperately trying to slaughter every man, woman and child of Judaic origins'.

Why specifically are you lying?

Is it just to incite violence against Muslims?

 

[Syriusly]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? .

Oh thats an easy one

The Arab Muslims who colonized the area in about the 9th century VE

Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place

Any other questions :--)

The funny part about that is the Old Testament is full of stories of the ancient Jews doing exactly that.

After a certain point- it is rather pointless to call a people 'colonists'. Because if there is no 'statute' of limitations then virtually no peoples could not be called 'colonists' including the Jewish people in Israel/Palestine/Judea.

Let me put it another way: As you acknowledge the Palestinian Arabs have been there for 1,000 years- we Americans colonized the United States a mere 400 years ago. Certainly we are not going to be kicked out because we
"Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place"

Both Jews and Arabs- both Jews and Muslims- will continue to be citizens of Israel.

They seem to be dealing with that far better than you can.

 

[montelatici]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? .

Oh thats an easy one

The Arab Muslims who colonized the area in about the 9th century VE

Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place

Any other questions :--)

Fantasy and science fiction again. Try to provide a serious source that disputes the Governmental data.

Are lies and half truths really all you have to defend the Arab Muslim narrative Diddums.

The fact of the matter is that the Arab Muslims have been desperate to slaughter every man woman and child of Judaic origins within, well everywhere since their Nazi friends lost the war May 8 1945

Even if true, and it isn't. The only people living in Palestine were Christians. Contrary to Hasbara fiction, the Christians of Palestine were permitted to remain Christian when the Arabians took over rule from the Byzantines.

"When the Arabians took over rule"?

The history you learn at the madrassah is a pitifully inept version of Islamo-history. The Arabians (muhammedan armies) didn't just take over, the muhammedan hordes fought long, bloody wars of conquest and colonization.

Actually, the Romans were defeated at the battle of Yarmouk, it was a 6 day battle. The Arabians took over rule of Palestine from the Byzantines shortly thereafter. The Arabians did not settle Palestine. Just like the Byzantines, they merely became rulers of the people already living there.

 

[Hollie]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? .

Oh thats an easy one

The Arab Muslims who colonized the area in about the 9th century VE

Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place

Any other questions :--)

Fantasy and science fiction again. Try to provide a serious source that disputes the Governmental data.

Are lies and half truths really all you have to defend the Arab Muslim narrative Diddums.

The fact of the matter is that the Arab Muslims have been desperate to slaughter every man woman and child of Judaic origins within, well everywhere since their Nazi friends lost the war May 8 1945

Even if true, and it isn't. The only people living in Palestine were Christians. Contrary to Hasbara fiction, the Christians of Palestine were permitted to remain Christian when the Arabians took over rule from the Byzantines.

"When the Arabians took over rule"?

The history you learn at the madrassah is a pitifully inept version of Islamo-history. The Arabians (muhammedan armies) didn't just take over, the muhammedan hordes fought long, bloody wars of conquest and colonization.

Actually, the Romans were defeated at the battle of Yarmouk, it was a 6 day battle. The Arabians took over rule of Palestine from the Byzantines shortly thereafter. The Arabians did not settle Palestine. Just like the Byzantines, they merely became rulers of the people already living there.

Actually, the battle of Yarmouk was just another war in the long bloody strings of wars fought by the muhammedan invaders / colonists.

Long bloody wars don't suggest the muhammedans simply "took over". That demonstrates long, bloody wars of attrition. Muhammedans spilling out of the Arabian Peninsula after the death of Muhammud (swish), didn't just "take over" rule, they slaughter their way across the landscape.

Do take some time to learn the history of the area.

 

[montelatici]

Who were the colonists? .

Oh thats an easy one

The Arab Muslims who colonized the area in about the 9th century VE

Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place

Any other questions :--)

Fantasy and science fiction again. Try to provide a serious source that disputes the Governmental data.

Are lies and half truths really all you have to defend the Arab Muslim narrative Diddums.

The fact of the matter is that the Arab Muslims have been desperate to slaughter every man woman and child of Judaic origins within, well everywhere since their Nazi friends lost the war May 8 1945

Even if true, and it isn't. The only people living in Palestine were Christians. Contrary to Hasbara fiction, the Christians of Palestine were permitted to remain Christian when the Arabians took over rule from the Byzantines.

"When the Arabians took over rule"?

The history you learn at the madrassah is a pitifully inept version of Islamo-history. The Arabians (muhammedan armies) didn't just take over, the muhammedan hordes fought long, bloody wars of conquest and colonization.

Actually, the Romans were defeated at the battle of Yarmouk, it was a 6 day battle. The Arabians took over rule of Palestine from the Byzantines shortly thereafter. The Arabians did not settle Palestine. Just like the Byzantines, they merely became rulers of the people already living there.

Actually, the battle of Yarmouk was just another war in the long bloody strings of wars fought by the muhammedan invaders / colonists.

Long bloody wars don't suggest the muhammedans simply "took over". That demonstrates long, bloody wars of attrition. Muhammedans spilling out of the Arabian Peninsula after the death of Muhammud (swish), didn't just "take over" rule, they slaughter their way across the landscape.

Do take some time to learn the history of the area.

You, as a Jew ,should be happy about the Muslim invasion of Palestine. Their Jewish allies were allowed to enter Jerusalem again after the Muslims took over rule from the Christian Romans.

 

[Hollie]

Oh thats an easy one

The Arab Muslims who colonized the area in about the 9th century VE

Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place

Any other questions :--)

Are lies and half truths really all you have to defend the Arab Muslim narrative Diddums.

The fact of the matter is that the Arab Muslims have been desperate to slaughter every man woman and child of Judaic origins within, well everywhere since their Nazi friends lost the war May 8 1945

Even if true, and it isn't. The only people living in Palestine were Christians. Contrary to Hasbara fiction, the Christians of Palestine were permitted to remain Christian when the Arabians took over rule from the Byzantines.

"When the Arabians took over rule"?

The history you learn at the madrassah is a pitifully inept version of Islamo-history. The Arabians (muhammedan armies) didn't just take over, the muhammedan hordes fought long, bloody wars of conquest and colonization.

Actually, the Romans were defeated at the battle of Yarmouk, it was a 6 day battle. The Arabians took over rule of Palestine from the Byzantines shortly thereafter. The Arabians did not settle Palestine. Just like the Byzantines, they merely became rulers of the people already living there.

Actually, the battle of Yarmouk was just another war in the long bloody strings of wars fought by the muhammedan invaders / colonists.

Long bloody wars don't suggest the muhammedans simply "took over". That demonstrates long, bloody wars of attrition. Muhammedans spilling out of the Arabian Peninsula after the death of Muhammud (swish), didn't just "take over" rule, they slaughter their way across the landscape.

Do take some time to learn the history of the area.

You, as a Jew ,should be happy about the Muslim invasion of Palestine. Their Jewish allies were allowed to enter Jerusalem again after the Muslims took over rule from the Christian Romans.

Really sweetie, you do need to get past your madrassah schoolboy version of history.

The ancient Romans were among the most transcendently superstitious people in human history.

Not only were the Romans completely tolerant of other nation's gods, they actually assumed that the other gods were also true. Admittedly, they found the Egyptian gods more than a little weird, but they still considered them ancient, powerful and real.

As Rome became a multinational empire and Rome the city became an international city, many foreign gods and goddesses had their own shrines built in the capital city itself. Roman citizens could worship any national gods they chose, but it remained commonly accepted that gods were most powerful in their own countries, or their own small geographies. For example even in Rome itself Jupiter Optimus Maximus could not supersede the influence of the local gods (“Lares”) that each governed their own crossroads, or family hearth. While public worship of the borrowed Greek pantheon was a community exercise, each family reserved the inside of their homes for private worship of their own family gods.

And in a spectacular admission of the incompleteness of their knowledge, the Romans also worshiped “the unknown god.” This was essentially praying to the “to whom it may concern gods” in the explicit knowledge that nobody had exclusive or complete knowledge of the real nature of the godhead. Admittedly, this idea was borrowed (along with the formal state pantheon) from the earlier Greeks. The Greeks even built a temple in Athens to this Agnostos Theos.

 

[Shusha]

The Arabians took over rule of Palestine from the Byzantines shortly thereafter. The Arabians did not settle Palestine. Just like the Byzantines, they merely became rulers of the people already living there.

I remain unconvinced that a people would lose their culture and adopt an entirely new culture without a population transfer/invasion.

 

[Phoenall]

Fantasy and science fiction again. Try to provide a serious source that disputes the Governmental data.

So your very own Catholic church is fantasy and science fiction now as well as not to be taken seriously

 

[Boston1]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? .

Oh thats an easy one

The Arab Muslims who colonized the area in about the 9th century VE

Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place

Any other questions :--)

The funny part about that is the Old Testament is full of stories of the ancient Jews doing exactly that.

After a certain point- it is rather pointless to call a people 'colonists'. Because if there is no 'statute' of limitations then virtually no peoples could not be called 'colonists' including the Jewish people in Israel/Palestine/Judea.

Let me put it another way: As you acknowledge the Palestinian Arabs have been there for 1,000 years- we Americans colonized the United States a mere 400 years ago. Certainly we are not going to be kicked out because we
"Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place"

Both Jews and Arabs- both Jews and Muslims- will continue to be citizens of Israel.

They seem to be dealing with that far better than you can.

LOL

You might ditch the religious dogma and try learning a little history.

And why, specifically are you lying ?

The vast majority of Arab muslims arrived in the second colonial period of the late 20th century.

So really your nonsense about "killed and threw out the native inhabitants" line is pure fantasy.

The question you are avoiding is, Why the Arab Muslims have stuck to a genocidal agenda instead of ever giving peace a chance

 

[Challenger]

The Arabians took over rule of Palestine from the Byzantines shortly thereafter. The Arabians did not settle Palestine. Just like the Byzantines, they merely became rulers of the people already living there.

I remain unconvinced that a people would lose their culture and adopt an entirely new culture without a population transfer/invasion.

Do you drink Coca Cola/Pepsi? Do you wear jeans? Trainers? Chew gum? Ever go to a local MacDonald's or Starbucks? If the answer is "yes" to any of the above, congratulations, you've begun to adopt a foreign culture.

 

[Challenger]

The fact of the matter is that the Arab Muslims have been desperate to slaughter every man woman and child of Judaic origins within, well everywhere since their Nazi friends lost the war May 8 1945

The above is BoSton1's wet dream fantasy. The fact of the matter is that the Zionist paradise Foreign Ministry has files that, burst at the seams with evidence of Arab peace feelers and Arab readiness to negotiate with Israel from September 1948 onwards. The two key issues in dispute were refugees and borders. Each of the neighbouring Arab states was prepared to negotiate with Israel directly and prepared to bargain about both refugees and borders.

King Abdullah proposed an overall political settlement with Israel in return for certain territorial concessions, particularly a land corridor to link Jordan with the Mediterranean, which would have enabled him to counter Arab criticisms of a separate peace with Israel.

Colonel Husni Zaim, who captured power in Syria in March 1949 and was overthrown four months later, offered Israel full peace with an exchange of ambassadors, normal economic relations and the resettlement of 300,000 Palestinian refugees in Syria in return for an adjustment of the boundary between the two countries through the middle of Lake Tiberias.

King Farouk of Egypt demanded the cession of Gaza and a substantial strip of desert bordering on Sinai as his price for a de facto recognition of Israel.

All three Arab rulers displayed remarkable pragmatism in their approach to negotiations with the Jewish state. They were even anxious to pre-empt one another because they assumed that whoever settled up with Israel first would also get the best terms. Zaim openly declared his ambition to be the first Arab leader to make peace with Israel.

In each case, though for slightly different reasons, David Ben-Gurion considered the price being asked for peace as too high. He was ready to conclude peace on the basis of the status quo; he was unwilling to proceed to a peace which involved more than minuscule Israeli concessions on refugees or on borders. Ben-Gurion, as his diary reveals, considered that the armistice agreements with the neighbouring Arab states met Israel's essential needs for recognition, security and stability. He knew that for formal peace agreements Israel would have to pay by yielding substantial tracts of territory and by permitting the return of a substantial number of Palestinian refugees and he did not consider this a price worth paying. Whether Ben-Gurion made the right choice is a matter of opinion. That he had a choice is now undeniable."---Professor Avi Schlaim

 

[Roudy]

The fact of the matter is that the Arab Muslims have been desperate to slaughter every man woman and child of Judaic origins within, well everywhere since their Nazi friends lost the war May 8 1945

The above is BoSton1's wet dream fantasy. The fact of the matter is that the Zionist paradise Foreign Ministry has files that, burst at the seams with evidence of Arab peace feelers and Arab readiness to negotiate with Israel from September 1948 onwards. The two key issues in dispute were refugees and borders. Each of the neighbouring Arab states was prepared to negotiate with Israel directly and prepared to bargain about both refugees and borders.

King Abdullah proposed an overall political settlement with Israel in return for certain territorial concessions, particularly a land corridor to link Jordan with the Mediterranean, which would have enabled him to counter Arab criticisms of a separate peace with Israel.

Colonel Husni Zaim, who captured power in Syria in March 1949 and was overthrown four months later, offered Israel full peace with an exchange of ambassadors, normal economic relations and the resettlement of 300,000 Palestinian refugees in Syria in return for an adjustment of the boundary between the two countries through the middle of Lake Tiberias.

King Farouk of Egypt demanded the cession of Gaza and a substantial strip of desert bordering on Sinai as his price for a de facto recognition of Israel.

All three Arab rulers displayed remarkable pragmatism in their approach to negotiations with the Jewish state. They were even anxious to pre-empt one another because they assumed that whoever settled up with Israel first would also get the best terms. Zaim openly declared his ambition to be the first Arab leader to make peace with Israel.

In each case, though for slightly different reasons, David Ben-Gurion considered the price being asked for peace as too high. He was ready to conclude peace on the basis of the status quo; he was unwilling to proceed to a peace which involved more than minuscule Israeli concessions on refugees or on borders. Ben-Gurion, as his diary reveals, considered that the armistice agreements with the neighbouring Arab states met Israel's essential needs for recognition, security and stability. He knew that for formal peace agreements Israel would have to pay by yielding substantial tracts of territory and by permitting the return of a substantial number of Palestinian refugees and he did not consider this a price worth paying. Whether Ben-Gurion made the right choice is a matter of opinion. That he had a choice is now undeniable."---Professor Avi Schlaim

Aha yes, Israel bloodied their noses badly in every war they started so of course now these Arab leaders have had enough of getting their butts kicked. This is the only language Arab Muslims understand. Take note.

 

[montelatici]

The Arabians took over rule of Palestine from the Byzantines shortly thereafter. The Arabians did not settle Palestine. Just like the Byzantines, they merely became rulers of the people already living there.

I remain unconvinced that a people would lose their culture and adopt an entirely new culture without a population transfer/invasion.

Well, it's just historical fact that the people of Palestine eventually converted to Islam and adopted the Arabian language and some of the culture.

It parallels what happened before, so I don't understand why this historical fact is so hard to believe.

Very few Romans settled in Palestine, they ruled it, yet it was completely Graeco Roman culturally and Christian religiously by the time the Arabians took over rule from the Romans (Byzantines)..

Besides, the Arabians in total numbered in the few hundred thousands, they were a desert people. and the desert can't support large populations. Cairo alone had about as many people as all of Arabia at the time of the Arab conquests and the cities of Constantinople, Baghdad and Ctesiphon had more people than all of Arabia.

 

[westwall]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? .

Oh thats an easy one

The Arab Muslims who colonized the area in about the 9th century VE

Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place

Any other questions :--)

The funny part about that is the Old Testament is full of stories of the ancient Jews doing exactly that.

After a certain point- it is rather pointless to call a people 'colonists'. Because if there is no 'statute' of limitations then virtually no peoples could not be called 'colonists' including the Jewish people in Israel/Palestine/Judea.

Let me put it another way: As you acknowledge the Palestinian Arabs have been there for 1,000 years- we Americans colonized the United States a mere 400 years ago. Certainly we are not going to be kicked out because we
"Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place"

Both Jews and Arabs- both Jews and Muslims- will continue to be citizens of Israel.

They seem to be dealing with that far better than you can.

LOL

You might ditch the religious dogma and try learning a little history.

And why, specifically are you lying ?

The vast majority of Arab muslims arrived in the second colonial period of the late 20th century.

So really your nonsense about "killed and threw out the native inhabitants" line is pure fantasy.

The question you are avoiding is, Why the Arab Muslims have stuck to a genocidal agenda instead of ever giving peace a chance

Care to provide a link to your charts origin?

 

[montelatici]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? .

Oh thats an easy one

The Arab Muslims who colonized the area in about the 9th century VE

Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place

Any other questions :--)

The funny part about that is the Old Testament is full of stories of the ancient Jews doing exactly that.

After a certain point- it is rather pointless to call a people 'colonists'. Because if there is no 'statute' of limitations then virtually no peoples could not be called 'colonists' including the Jewish people in Israel/Palestine/Judea.

Let me put it another way: As you acknowledge the Palestinian Arabs have been there for 1,000 years- we Americans colonized the United States a mere 400 years ago. Certainly we are not going to be kicked out because we
"Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place"

Both Jews and Arabs- both Jews and Muslims- will continue to be citizens of Israel.

They seem to be dealing with that far better than you can.

LOL

You might ditch the religious dogma and try learning a little history.

And why, specifically are you lying ?

The vast majority of Arab muslims arrived in the second colonial period of the late 20th century.

So really your nonsense about "killed and threw out the native inhabitants" line is pure fantasy.

The question you are avoiding is, Why the Arab Muslims have stuck to a genocidal agenda instead of ever giving peace a chance

Constantly lying and spamming a fake chart without providing its Hasbara source. Virtually no Arabs arrived in Palestine in the 20th century the Arab population growth was almost entirely natural growth. The arrivals from outside of Palestine were European Jews as officially reported by the UN before they took the decision to give more than half of Palestine to the European settler colonists.

"UNITED​

NATIONS​

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• 
  General Assembly

A/364
3 September 1947

OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE SECOND SESSION OF ​

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY​

​

(b)IMMIGRATION AND NATURAL INCREASE

15. These changes in the population have been brought about by two forces: natural increase and immigration. The great increase in the Jewish population is due in the main to immigration. From 1920 to 1946, the total number of recorded Jewish immigrants into Palestine was about 376,000, or an average of over 8,000 per year. The flow has not been regular, however, being fairly high in 1924 to 1926, falling in the next few years (there was a net emigration in 1927) and rising to even higher levels between 1933 and 1936 as a result of the Nazi persecution in Europe. Between the census year of 1931 and the year 1936, the proportion of Jews to the total population rose from 18 per cent to nearly 30 per cent.

16. The Arab population has increased almost entirely as a result of an excess of births over deaths."

A/364 of 3 September 1947

 

[Roudy]

Actually once again there is no point to even discussing the above made-up history to the topic of why Arab Muslims cannot make peace, which is due to the fact that they want Islam to rule the land and all non Muslms to live in fear as second class citizens. And if they don't get that, they will begin terrorizing and committing genocide as hey have throughout the history of the Jewish holy land and elsewhere.