Why Have the Arab Muslims in Israel Never even Considered Peace.

[Phoenall]

The simple fact is that the Arab Muslims in Israel and the surrounding areas have never tried peace with Israel so how can they possibly just blame all the violence on Israel ;--)

It is unusual for people that have been invaded and have lost their land and homes to the invaders to live peacefully with the invading people.

If the Europeans had not settled in Palestine there would not be conflict between the Palestinians (Muslimand Christians) and the Jews.

Yer right. Just look at American history.

Yes, American history is a good example. The native americans had to be nearly exterminated in great part, and the survivors contained in concentration camps (called reservations) before there was relative peace.
The problem for Israel, is that there are too many non-Jews to be able to exterminate them all.

Cheer up. The non-Jews, the Arabs-Moslems, are currently exterminating each other across Iraq and Syria. The Egyptian, Syrian and Lebanese invaders / colonists falsely labeled as Pal'istanians will find room in Syria to re-colonize there.

I don't know much about the Australians from Palistan but I doubt they are from Egypt, Syria or Lebanon. What are you talking about?

Are you misspelling the word Palestinian and are claiming that Palestine was uninhabited when the European Jews began migrating there? If so, do you have an historical reference to that effect.

Your lack of English comprehension is letting you down again Abdul the place is pali'stan not palistan

 

[Indofred]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? Ah, the Jewish invaders who murdered many of the population and stole everything they could.
I can see why the Arabs don't want such people in their country.

 

[Roudy]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? Ah, the Jewish invaders who murdered many of the population and stole everything they could.
I can see why the Arabs don't want such people in their country.

Jews were living and more were coming back to join their brethern in their ancestral and religious homeland, Muslims were the invaders and "colonialists" trying to establish yet another Islamic terrorist shithole caliphate.

 

[Syriusly]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? Ah, the Jewish invaders who murdered many of the population and stole everything they could.
I can see why the Arabs don't want such people in their country.

Jews were living and more were coming back to join their brethern in their ancestral and religious homeland, Muslims were the invaders and "colonialists" trying to establish yet another Islamic terrorist shithole caliphate.

So Arab's- Christian and Muslim- who had been living in the area for 700 years you consider to be invaders.

While Jews whose ancestors lived in Israel maybe 1400 years before- and had not lived in Israel for 1400 years were just heading home?

Well that is lovely revisionist history.

Back to the OP- 20% of the population of Israel are Arab- and they are about 91% Muslim and 9% Christian.

For the most part- the Arab and Jewish citizens of Israel live together peacefully.

 

[Roudy]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? Ah, the Jewish invaders who murdered many of the population and stole everything they could.
I can see why the Arabs don't want such people in their country.

Jews were living and more were coming back to join their brethern in their ancestral and religious homeland, Muslims were the invaders and "colonialists" trying to establish yet another Islamic terrorist shithole caliphate.

So Arab's- Christian and Muslim- who had been living in the area for 700 years you consider to be invaders.

While Jews whose ancestors lived in Israel maybe 1400 years before- and had not lived in Israel for 1400 years were just heading home?

Well that is lovely revisionist history.

Back to the OP- 20% of the population of Israel are Arab- and they are about 91% Muslim and 9% Christian.

For the most part- the Arab and Jewish citizens of Israel live together peacefully.

And who told you that? Jews had always maintained strong presence in Israel, and especially during the Ottoman Empire were invited by the Ottomans starting in the 1400's to take refuge there during the crusades and inquisitions. Jewish populations increased and Jewish life started to flourish once again, culminating to a Jewish majority in Jerusalem in the 1850's. This is not revisionist history, it is fact. Jews have a right to have their own state, especially on their ancestral and religious homeland.

 

[Syriusly]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? Ah, the Jewish invaders who murdered many of the population and stole everything they could.
I can see why the Arabs don't want such people in their country.

Jews were living and more were coming back to join their brethern in their ancestral and religious homeland, Muslims were the invaders and "colonialists" trying to establish yet another Islamic terrorist shithole caliphate.

So Arab's- Christian and Muslim- who had been living in the area for 700 years you consider to be invaders.

While Jews whose ancestors lived in Israel maybe 1400 years before- and had not lived in Israel for 1400 years were just heading home?

Well that is lovely revisionist history.

Back to the OP- 20% of the population of Israel are Arab- and they are about 91% Muslim and 9% Christian.

For the most part- the Arab and Jewish citizens of Israel live together peacefully.

And who told you that? Jews had always maintained strong presence in Israel, and especially during the Ottoman Empire were invited by the Ottomans starting in the 1400's to take refuge there during the crusades and inquisitions. Jewish populations increased and Jewish life started to flourish once again, culminating to a Jewish majority in Jerusalem in the 1850's. This is not revisionist history, it is fact. Jews have a right to have their own state, especially on their ancestral and religious homeland.

Frankly Jews no more have a right to their own state than anyone else does. Why should they have that right- and the Navajo's no right to their own state?

And I say that as someone who believes that the State of Israel is the most successful and most democratic of all Middle Eastern countries.
I say that as someone who thinks that Israel as a Jewish state should continue to exist.

But it is pure revisionist history to call the Arabs whose roots in Palestine/Judea go back 700 years 'invaders and colonists' while claiming that the Jews who arrived 200 years ago were not.

Neither the Jews or the Palestinians in Israel and Palestine are going to suddenly and magically go away- nor should they.

 

[Roudy]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? Ah, the Jewish invaders who murdered many of the population and stole everything they could.
I can see why the Arabs don't want such people in their country.

Jews were living and more were coming back to join their brethern in their ancestral and religious homeland, Muslims were the invaders and "colonialists" trying to establish yet another Islamic terrorist shithole caliphate.

So Arab's- Christian and Muslim- who had been living in the area for 700 years you consider to be invaders.

While Jews whose ancestors lived in Israel maybe 1400 years before- and had not lived in Israel for 1400 years were just heading home?

Well that is lovely revisionist history.

Back to the OP- 20% of the population of Israel are Arab- and they are about 91% Muslim and 9% Christian.

For the most part- the Arab and Jewish citizens of Israel live together peacefully.

And who told you that? Jews had always maintained strong presence in Israel, and especially during the Ottoman Empire were invited by the Ottomans starting in the 1400's to take refuge there during the crusades and inquisitions. Jewish populations increased and Jewish life started to flourish once again, culminating to a Jewish majority in Jerusalem in the 1850's. This is not revisionist history, it is fact. Jews have a right to have their own state, especially on their ancestral and religious homeland.

Frankly Jews no more have a right to their own state than anyone else does. Why should they have that right- and the Navajo's no right to their own state?

And I say that as someone who believes that the State of Israel is the most successful and most democratic of all Middle Eastern countries.
I say that as someone who thinks that Israel as a Jewish state should continue to exist.

But it is pure revisionist history to call the Arabs whose roots in Palestine/Judea go back 700 years 'invaders and colonists' while claiming that the Jews who arrived 200 years ago were not.

Neither the Jews or the Palestinians in Israel and Palestine are going to suddenly and magically go away- nor should they.

That's your opinion. The land is ancestral and religious Jewish land. It is central to the Jewish faith and identity. Jewish roots go back to before and after the Ottomans. Look it up. When the crusaders invaded Israel to free it from Muslim rule, Jews were part of the population that defended their own enclaves such as Hebron.

 

[Phoenall]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? Ah, the Jewish invaders who murdered many of the population and stole everything they could.
I can see why the Arabs don't want such people in their country.

And you would be wrong again and just peddling islamonazi propaganda. The colonists were the arab muslims who came, saw and stole anything they fancied. The Jews were invited by first the Ottomans who failed to get any arab muslims interested in colonising Palestine. Then when the Ottomans and Palestinian arab muslims lost the war and the LoN took the former Ottoman empire as reparations the LoN invited the Jews to migrate and close colonise the land. At no time did an invasion by the Jews take place, this is just another islamonazi blood libel to garner support after the failure of 2014 showed that hamas did indeed use human shields.

 

[Phoenall]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? Ah, the Jewish invaders who murdered many of the population and stole everything they could.
I can see why the Arabs don't want such people in their country.

Jews were living and more were coming back to join their brethern in their ancestral and religious homeland, Muslims were the invaders and "colonialists" trying to establish yet another Islamic terrorist shithole caliphate.

So Arab's- Christian and Muslim- who had been living in the area for 700 years you consider to be invaders.

While Jews whose ancestors lived in Israel maybe 1400 years before- and had not lived in Israel for 1400 years were just heading home?

Well that is lovely revisionist history.

Back to the OP- 20% of the population of Israel are Arab- and they are about 91% Muslim and 9% Christian.

For the most part- the Arab and Jewish citizens of Israel live together peacefully.

And your evidence of the Jews not having lived in the M.E. for 1400 years is what exactly. The usual islamonazi propaganda lies that have been destroyed more times that the carbuncle on the temple mount.

 

[Phoenall]

And every history book tells you that the Jews never left Palestine fully, they always had people there. Even mo'mad said the Jews were living in Israel, and that was 1400 years ago. The Christian crusaders said the Jews were living in Palestine, the Ottomans said the Jews were living in Palestine so where do you get your information from ?

 

[montelatici]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? Ah, the Jewish invaders who murdered many of the population and stole everything they could.
I can see why the Arabs don't want such people in their country.

Jews were living and more were coming back to join their brethern in their ancestral and religious homeland, Muslims were the invaders and "colonialists" trying to establish yet another Islamic terrorist shithole caliphate.

So Arab's- Christian and Muslim- who had been living in the area for 700 years you consider to be invaders.

While Jews whose ancestors lived in Israel maybe 1400 years before- and had not lived in Israel for 1400 years were just heading home?

Well that is lovely revisionist history.

Back to the OP- 20% of the population of Israel are Arab- and they are about 91% Muslim and 9% Christian.

For the most part- the Arab and Jewish citizens of Israel live together peacefully.

And who told you that? Jews had always maintained strong presence in Israel, and especially during the Ottoman Empire were invited by the Ottomans starting in the 1400's to take refuge there during the crusades and inquisitions. Jewish populations increased and Jewish life started to flourish once again, culminating to a Jewish majority in Jerusalem in the 1850's. This is not revisionist history, it is fact. Jews have a right to have their own state, especially on their ancestral and religious homeland.

Strong presence eh.




There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews."

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? Ah, the Jewish invaders who murdered many of the population and stole everything they could.
I can see why the Arabs don't want such people in their country.

Jews were living and more were coming back to join their brethern in their ancestral and religious homeland, Muslims were the invaders and "colonialists" trying to establish yet another Islamic terrorist shithole caliphate.

So Arab's- Christian and Muslim- who had been living in the area for 700 years you consider to be invaders.

While Jews whose ancestors lived in Israel maybe 1400 years before- and had not lived in Israel for 1400 years were just heading home?

Well that is lovely revisionist history.

Back to the OP- 20% of the population of Israel are Arab- and they are about 91% Muslim and 9% Christian.

For the most part- the Arab and Jewish citizens of Israel live together peacefully.

And who told you that? Jews had always maintained strong presence in Israel, and especially during the Ottoman Empire were invited by the Ottomans starting in the 1400's to take refuge there during the crusades and inquisitions. Jewish populations increased and Jewish life started to flourish once again, culminating to a Jewish majority in Jerusalem in the 1850's. This is not revisionist history, it is fact. Jews have a right to have their own state, especially on their ancestral and religious homeland.

 

[Roudy]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? Ah, the Jewish invaders who murdered many of the population and stole everything they could.
I can see why the Arabs don't want such people in their country.

Jews were living and more were coming back to join their brethern in their ancestral and religious homeland, Muslims were the invaders and "colonialists" trying to establish yet another Islamic terrorist shithole caliphate.

So Arab's- Christian and Muslim- who had been living in the area for 700 years you consider to be invaders.

While Jews whose ancestors lived in Israel maybe 1400 years before- and had not lived in Israel for 1400 years were just heading home?

Well that is lovely revisionist history.

Back to the OP- 20% of the population of Israel are Arab- and they are about 91% Muslim and 9% Christian.

For the most part- the Arab and Jewish citizens of Israel live together peacefully.

And who told you that? Jews had always maintained strong presence in Israel, and especially during the Ottoman Empire were invited by the Ottomans starting in the 1400's to take refuge there during the crusades and inquisitions. Jewish populations increased and Jewish life started to flourish once again, culminating to a Jewish majority in Jerusalem in the 1850's. This is not revisionist history, it is fact. Jews have a right to have their own state, especially on their ancestral and religious homeland.

Strong presence eh.




There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews."

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? Ah, the Jewish invaders who murdered many of the population and stole everything they could.
I can see why the Arabs don't want such people in their country.

Jews were living and more were coming back to join their brethern in their ancestral and religious homeland, Muslims were the invaders and "colonialists" trying to establish yet another Islamic terrorist shithole caliphate.

So Arab's- Christian and Muslim- who had been living in the area for 700 years you consider to be invaders.

While Jews whose ancestors lived in Israel maybe 1400 years before- and had not lived in Israel for 1400 years were just heading home?

Well that is lovely revisionist history.

Back to the OP- 20% of the population of Israel are Arab- and they are about 91% Muslim and 9% Christian.

For the most part- the Arab and Jewish citizens of Israel live together peacefully.

And who told you that? Jews had always maintained strong presence in Israel, and especially during the Ottoman Empire were invited by the Ottomans starting in the 1400's to take refuge there during the crusades and inquisitions. Jewish populations increased and Jewish life started to flourish once again, culminating to a Jewish majority in Jerusalem in the 1850's. This is not revisionist history, it is fact. Jews have a right to have their own state, especially on their ancestral and religious homeland.

Yeah, strong presence. The land is ancient Jewish ancestral and religious holy land. They kept coming back and resettling, always.


CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291

"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000.The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000;Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jews. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

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Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm

 

[montelatici]

Fantasy and science fiction again. Try to provide a serious source that disputes the Governmental data.

 

[Indofred]

Jews were living and more were coming back to join their brethern in their ancestral and religious homeland,

The one invaded and colonised by King David the bastard?

 

[Roudy]

Jews were living and more were coming back to join their brethern in their ancestral and religious homeland,

The one invaded and colonised by King David the bastard?

Better watch out, you're cussing out one of your Muslim prophets, Abdul.

You do know that your own Koran also claims the land belongs to the Jews, correct? Eh, never mind.

 

[Roudy]

Fantasy and science fiction again. Try to provide a serious source that disputes the Governmental data.

Ottoman census is govt. data. What you post about "no Jews there and all the Muslims are converted Jews" is delusional IslamoNazi garbage.

 

[Roudy]

The fantasy is the existence of a Palestinian country. It's pure baloney.


http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/07175DE9FA2DE563852568D3006E10F3

163. The Arabs of Palestine consider themselves as having a "natural" right to that country, although they have not been in possession of it as a sovereign nation.

166. The desire of the Arab people of Palestine to safeguard their national existence is a very natural desire. However, Palestinian nationalism, as distinct from Arab nationalism, is itself a relatively new phenomenon, which appeared only after the division of the "Arab rectangle" by the settlement of the First World War.

 

[skye]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land. From the moment the Arab Muslim colonists arrived its been a blood bath against any non muslims.

Why ?

What is it that makes Arab Muslim colonists in the holly land so intolerant.

Have they ever even considered peace ?

Since day one they've made every effort to forcefully impose there will on every other people in the region.

I wonder if they'll ever grow up to the point where they are able to even attempt peace.

The Islamic culture considers the Middle East as Muslim territory which can not be given up.

In the case of Israel, this small powerful Jewish western democratic country, surrounded by Muslim countries is totally intolerable for them .

Even though the Palestinians would benefit considerably by peace with Israel they always have been ideologically unable to make this commitment.

For decades they have pretended peace may be achievable but in reality what the Palestinian leaders seek is the complete destruction of Israel so it can become a Muslim Palestinian state.

That's basically the reason why the Arab Muslims have never considered peace in Israel.

 

[Boston1]

The war has been on since the day these infidels arrived in the holy land

Who were the colonists? .

Oh thats an easy one

The Arab Muslims who colonized the area in about the 9th century VE

Killed or threw out all the native inhabitants and now pretend like they own the place

Any other questions :--)

 

[Boston1]

Fantasy and science fiction again. Try to provide a serious source that disputes the Governmental data.

Are lies and half truths really all you have to defend the Arab Muslim narrative Diddums.

The fact of the matter is that the Arab Muslims have been desperate to slaughter every man woman and child of Judaic origins within, well everywhere since their Nazi friends lost the war May 8 1945