Why Hagel?

[Jarhead]

John Kerry as Secretary of State. Chuck Hagle as Secretary of Defense. The two have a lot in common. They share an opinion the the US is an evil country that does not deserve a military. obama is doing something he thinks we won't notice.

The man got a pass when he was a candidate and refused to release his school records.
He got a pass when it was revealed that he knew Ayers a lot better than he admitted
He got a pass when he refused to discuss hius personal financial deal with a convicted felon
He got a pass when he used presidential privelage so holder didnt have to offer up anything he didnt want to in regard to fast and furious (still waiting for answers on that one)
He got a pass when he went to vegas thew day after an Ambassador lost his life to a terrorist attack
He got a pass when it was revealed by the CBO that he double dipped with 500 billion in the healthcare fianncial analysis

He knows we see what he is doing.

But he knows he will get a pass.

Afterall...the man is black. He gets a pass for that alone.

Jeez....read what I responded to.
I was not referring to Hagel.

 

[AmyNation]

The man got a pass when he was a candidate and refused to release his school records.
He got a pass when it was revealed that he knew Ayers a lot better than he admitted
He got a pass when he refused to discuss hius personal financial deal with a convicted felon
He got a pass when he used presidential privelage so holder didnt have to offer up anything he didnt want to in regard to fast and furious (still waiting for answers on that one)
He got a pass when he went to vegas thew day after an Ambassador lost his life to a terrorist attack
He got a pass when it was revealed by the CBO that he double dipped with 500 billion in the healthcare fianncial analysis

He knows we see what he is doing.

But he knows he will get a pass.

Afterall...the man is black. He gets a pass for that alone.

Jeez....read what I responded to.
I was not referring to Hagel.

John Kerry's black!?

 

[Jarhead]

Prove it. I dare you.

Funny...Pelosi accused the CIA of lying to congress....and yet you never asked her to prove it.

Yet you want a poster on a messaage board to prove an opinion.

Interesting.

Do you agree with that poster?

Not at all.

But I find it interesting how he was asked to prove an opinion when many NEVER seem to want our memebers of congress to prove anything they state as fact.

 

[Jarhead]

Jeez....read what I responded to.
I was not referring to Hagel.

John Kerry's black!?

Now you are just being silly.

 

[Oldguy]

Funny...Pelosi accused the CIA of lying to congress....and yet you never asked her to prove it.

Yet you want a poster on a messaage board to prove an opinion.

Interesting.

Do you agree with that poster?

Not at all.

But I find it interesting how he was asked to prove an opinion when many NEVER seem to want our memebers of congress to prove anything they state as fact.

Nancy Pelosi didn't post an opinion here. You did. Prove it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. "A friend and admirer of Senator Hagel called the other day to ask whether we’d ever met the nominee to be secretary of defense. We expressed our regrets that we hadn’t. Our friend wanted us to know that Mr. Hagel does not dislike the Jews. We said we were delighted to hear it, but we also tried to convey that the Sun doesn’t care one way or another whether Mr. Hagel likes the Jews. His private views are not what we care about. What we care about is the policy line to which Mr. Hagel would hew.....

2. We’ve written before about this question of private prejudice. Harry Truman didn’t like the Jews. He didn’t like African Americans or the Chinese or Japanese either. We know this from his private correspondence as a young man. Phew! It contains the coarsest kind of bigotry. Yet Truman became one of the great civil rights presidents and one of the greatest friends of Israel. Once lifted to high office in the Senate, where he served as both a senator and as vice president, and then in the presidency, Truman came to see things in a different light and to surmount his biases.




3. But we’ve been covering his [Hagel's] antics for years, and where we’ve come out is that he’s just over his head in terms of policy. So he’s emerged as a shill for Israel’s most implacable foes. It doesn't take a genius to comprehend what the mullahs in Iran are going to make of this nomination.


4. By what deep principles is Senator Hagel guided in his long years of hanging back from anything that could be construed as helpful to the Jewish state or unhelpful to her enemies? He’s made no life’s work of sound money. He’s made no life’s work of constitutional fundamentals. We can’t think of a single over-riding principle in his career, save for an abiding sneer at Israel, in which he seems to take a certain mischievous glee.



5. President Obama may be a lot of things, but he’s no Reagan. From the more than 140 million Americans over the age of 21, he has gone and selected one of the most worrisome figures for defense. It looks like Mr. Hagel’s anti-Israel record is the very raison d’etre of the nomination.




6. It looks like the nomination is about the President’s determination to block Israel from going to its own defense against a regime that, in Iran, is preparing, by its own account, an attempt to annihilate the Jewish state."
Hagel and the Jews - The New York Sun



What can this say to the 69% or so of Jewish Americans who still voted for Obama?
Now, he'll be more flexible....and really stick it to them.

First of all, the New York Sun is the online remnant of a failed New York paper which presented itself as, basically, a "conservative" alternative to the New York Times. It was started by Conrad Black, a Canadian later convicted and jailed in the US for fraud.

This article really does nothing more than parrot the Neo-Conservative line that whatever is bad for Israel is bad for us. The association between the modern-day GOP and the Likud Party of Israel (see: Benjamin Netanyahu) is as tight as a hand inside a custom made glove. And, both parties are scared shitless because Barack Obama won't do what Likud tells him to do, which would amount to relinquishing our sovereignty and foreign policy to Israel's most intractable zealots. You know...like Mitt Romney promised to do? ("I'd call my friend Bibi....")

So, the propaganda machine generates editorials like this for consumption by domestic Jews and the party faithful. Anything to trash Obama, and anybody he nominates for anything, and it might frighten the Jews.

You left out a quote which sums up the author's primary objection to Hagel, so I'll post it for you:

"It looks like Mr. Hagel’s anti-Israel record is the very raison d’etre of the nomination. It looks like the nomination is about the President’s determination to block Israel from going to its own defense against a regime that, in Iran, is preparing, by its own account, an attempt to annihilate the Jewish state."

"It looks like..." In other words, that's the authors opinion which he/she backs up with....nothing. Just a frightening and suggestive opinion aimed at the true believers who will swallow anything they're told about Obama. "OMG! OBAMA!"

But, let's take a look at that criticism and see how it holds up in the light of day, shall we?

"....the President’s determination to block Israel from going to its own defense against a regime..."

Alright...what does that mean and what is it referring too?

Let me tell you. Remember the very public flap over "red lines" during the election, when Netanyhu inserted himself into our presidential election in favor of his friend, Mitt Romney? Do you know what that was about? It was about when, and under what circumstances, Israel should have a free hand to attack Iran. Bibi and Obama disagree on that for a couple of reasons:

1. If left on their own, the Netanyhu government would attack Iran right now. Obama thinks we should wait for conclusive evidence that Iran is on the verge of producing nuclear weapons.

2. When, or if, Israel acts, WE will be drawn into it no matter what. WE will be blamed throughout the world under any conceivable circumstances because of our close and long term affiliation with Israel. Whether we give Israel the green light or not, whether we help them or not, an attack by Israel upon Iran WILL involve us in a war which has the frightening potential to rapidly expand into WWIII.

The right, and apparently including this author, cannot stand the fact that Barack Obama will actively seek to prevent an Israeli attack on Iran until the last possible moment. He will not, and has not, relinquished control over our fate to Tel Aviv and they can't stand it. Lusting for the war they originally planned to wage after Iraq, they're using the Hagel nomination as an excuse to trash a President who actually puts the interests of America ahead of the interests of Israel.

God forbid.

Will Hagel make a good SecDef? I don't know, but it would be interesting to see an enlisted man ordering the generals around, wouldn't it?

"This article really does nothing more than parrot the Neo-Conservative line that whatever is bad for Israel is bad for us."

Wrong again, Archeo.....


"It’s not that Israel is our only test. We’ve been writing editorials in support of Congressman Ron Paul’s Liberty Campaign. We didn’t make an endorsement. But we’ve been defending him, even though he has a record that has convinced many that he has a personal animus in respect of Israel. We see a big difference between, say, Dr. Paul and Mr. Hagel. Dr. Paul has, over more than the 35 years that we’ve covered him, exhibited a commitment to certain libertarian, constitutional principles, most of which we share and all of which we respect."
Op.Cit.

 

[NYcarbineer]

An OMG! moment,

the nutters on the right don't like Obama's choice for Secy of Defense!

They'd prefer having Netanyahu take it as a second job.

 

[blackhawk]

Obama says he supports Israel Hagel does not appear to Obama says all options are on the table to prevent Iran from getting nukes Hagel opposes sanctions or the use of military force against Iran to prevent this if Obama is sincere in his support of Israel and desire to keep Iran from getting nukes Hagel seems to be a odd choice if he is not sincere in these things then the Hagel choice makes perfect sense.

 

[Mineva]

Hagel is a brave man. He wanted Obama to digest Zionist families in USA but Obama could not act brave enough to do that. USA is not ruled by Obama, your country is ruled by Zionist families. Hagel warned him about the inconsistency in foreign policy due to orientation of the aristocracy. American people, please wake up, these families are killing your future, future of your children. All the World hates you so much, all the countries which is the member of the United Nations hate you so much. These families provided that. They use you for their own interests with the stories about the "Safety of USA". All the appointments in White House is performed by these families. Research about the the reports of Jerry Curry which was delivered to CIA and FBI, the reports about how these families use USA and makes money with their dirty ways. Wake up from the lies about Taliban, Isis, Boko Haram, Al-Q etc etc etc. Wake up from the lies "Iraq have nuke", "Libya is a threat for the region", "Anti-Usa organizations gain power in Pakistan". %90 of American people is believe in these lies. These families are so active and they pacifies Obama easily. All the spokesman of Obama is zionist persons, they can service statements out of the knowledge of Obama. Obama is the last person who is reported about the plans.

Now, the World's second energy source which will be favorite after termination of oil sources, is something called "Shale Gas". USA is being touted as the country with the most shale gas reserves with 1 trillion 500 billion cubic meters. This is a lie. Turkiye is the country with the most Shale Gas reserves, about 5 trillion cubic meters. USA also knows that well and they want to make an agreement with Turkiye. England and France is also other countries who want to make an agreement about this issue. But they do that by way of blackmailing, this is their way of trade. To start the production of Shale Gas actively means economic collapse of Russia. The first hit is today with lowering the price of oil with the support of Gulf countries. The second hit is shale gas. Putin offered a partnership agreement to Turkiye a few times for shale gas but Turkiye rejected in each case. USA company Chevron made an 50 years of agreement with Ukraine about the research and processing of shale gas. Actually all the shale gas authority in USA is given to Chevron (Rockefeller family), and noone is allowed to say a single word to oppose this situation. Media is their best weapon. They are masters to create bad perceptions against their enemies through media. So Turkiye is in their target, because we wont accept any partner for our shale gas reserves. They are trying to destroy Erdogan Government and to put someone else instead of him who will work for these families.


Islam-the safety of Usa-safety of izrahell-sunni vs shia fights-cold war-iran nuclear program-asad dictatorship-egypte coup- isis etc ......... These are just tools to make people sleepy, to hide the main purposes.