Why Donald Trump’s Electoral College win is the weakest victory in American history

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The Presidential Election of 2016 is unique in many ways, with maybe the most fascinating being that Donald Trump not only lost the popular vote by the largest margin of any President in total votes (2.84 million votes and counting), he also could not blame that fact on the presence of a strong third party challenger.

Not only did Donald Trump become the worst example of the Electoral College quandary that has now led to five Presidents losing the popular vote but being inaugurated President. Trump also became the 7th lowest popular percentage winner of the Presidency, with all six Presidents who had a lower popular vote percentage being part of an election in which a third or fourth party candidate had drawn substantial support. That wasn’t true in the election of 2016.

These are the relevant elections, ranked in order from lowest popular vote getter:

John Quincy Adams won a four-way race with a Democratic-Republican Party splitting up in the first popular vote election in 1824, winning 30.92 percent of the vote, ending up second in popular votes but winning the Presidency in the House of Representatives, over the first place popular and electoral vote winner, Andrew Jackson. (Jackson failed to win the presidency because he lacked a majority of the electoral vote, forcing the election into the House of Representatives.) Henry Clay and William Crawford also received electoral votes in that election which reorganized the party system. Jackson had a popular vote margin of about 38,000 over Adams, so Adams became the only popular vote loser among the lowest Presidents inaugurated, until now joined by Donald Trump.

Abraham Lincoln won 39.65 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1860, with his three competitors being Stephen Douglas, John C. Breckinridge, and John Bell, and all four winning electoral votes, but with Lincoln winning the second lowest percentage ever due to winning only the Northern “free states.”

Woodrow Wilson won 41.84 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1912, with four candidates in the race, and two of his opponents, President William Howard Taft, and former President Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Bull Moose Party) winning electoral votes, with TR having the best third party popular vote and electoral vote performance in all of American history, 6 states, 27.4 percent of the total popular vote, and 88 electoral votes.

Bill Clinton won 43.01 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1992, with President George H. W. Bush and H. Ross Perot, running as an Independent. Perot won no states in the Electoral College, but won 18.9 percent of the popular vote, the third best performance in that regard, causing Clinton to win the fourth lowest popular vote percentage in American history.

Richard Nixon won 43.42 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1968 against Democrat Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace, who ran on the American Independent Party line. Wallace gained 5 states, 13.5 percent of the total popular vote (fifth best ever in American history), and 46 electoral votes, the second best total after TR in 1912.

James Buchanan won 45.29 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1856, with John C. Fremont and former President Millard Fillmore running on the American (Know Nothing) party line, and winning 21.5 percent of the total popular vote, and gaining the 8 electoral votes of Maryland. In so doing, Fillmore had the second highest percentage of the popular vote of any third party in American history, behind TR in 1912.

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Therefore, Trump cannot factually claim that he has any kind of mandate. He doesn't.
 
All that bullshit somI.could say, noone.gibes a shit about the margin. And Hayes and Bush had smaller margins, in fact many have.
 
The Presidential Election of 2016 is unique in many ways, with maybe the most fascinating being that Donald Trump not only lost the popular vote by the largest margin of any President in total votes (2.84 million votes and counting), he also could not blame that fact on the presence of a strong third party challenger.

Not only did Donald Trump become the worst example of the Electoral College quandary that has now led to five Presidents losing the popular vote but being inaugurated President. Trump also became the 7th lowest popular percentage winner of the Presidency, with all six Presidents who had a lower popular vote percentage being part of an election in which a third or fourth party candidate had drawn substantial support. That wasn’t true in the election of 2016.

These are the relevant elections, ranked in order from lowest popular vote getter:

John Quincy Adams won a four-way race with a Democratic-Republican Party splitting up in the first popular vote election in 1824, winning 30.92 percent of the vote, ending up second in popular votes but winning the Presidency in the House of Representatives, over the first place popular and electoral vote winner, Andrew Jackson. (Jackson failed to win the presidency because he lacked a majority of the electoral vote, forcing the election into the House of Representatives.) Henry Clay and William Crawford also received electoral votes in that election which reorganized the party system. Jackson had a popular vote margin of about 38,000 over Adams, so Adams became the only popular vote loser among the lowest Presidents inaugurated, until now joined by Donald Trump.

Abraham Lincoln won 39.65 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1860, with his three competitors being Stephen Douglas, John C. Breckinridge, and John Bell, and all four winning electoral votes, but with Lincoln winning the second lowest percentage ever due to winning only the Northern “free states.”

Woodrow Wilson won 41.84 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1912, with four candidates in the race, and two of his opponents, President William Howard Taft, and former President Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Bull Moose Party) winning electoral votes, with TR having the best third party popular vote and electoral vote performance in all of American history, 6 states, 27.4 percent of the total popular vote, and 88 electoral votes.

Bill Clinton won 43.01 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1992, with President George H. W. Bush and H. Ross Perot, running as an Independent. Perot won no states in the Electoral College, but won 18.9 percent of the popular vote, the third best performance in that regard, causing Clinton to win the fourth lowest popular vote percentage in American history.

Richard Nixon won 43.42 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1968 against Democrat Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace, who ran on the American Independent Party line. Wallace gained 5 states, 13.5 percent of the total popular vote (fifth best ever in American history), and 46 electoral votes, the second best total after TR in 1912.

James Buchanan won 45.29 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1856, with John C. Fremont and former President Millard Fillmore running on the American (Know Nothing) party line, and winning 21.5 percent of the total popular vote, and gaining the 8 electoral votes of Maryland. In so doing, Fillmore had the second highest percentage of the popular vote of any third party in American history, behind TR in 1912.

More: Why Donald Trump’s Electoral College win is the weakest victory in American history

Therefore, Trump cannot factually claim that he has any kind of mandate. He doesn't.
And, just like all the others, he will be addressed as "Mr President" come Jan. Must really chap your drawers.
 
Yet he will be able to do whatever he wants as President as all Presidents before him have done. Who cares? We will survive just as we would have survived a Clinton Presidency.
 
Yet he will be able to do whatever he wants as President as all Presidents before him have done. Who cares? We will survive just as we would have survived a Clinton Presidency.
Although likely in grander style.
 
Another lamo thread brought to you by the sore loser Shittingbull.

Sorry there SB but nothing you do will change the outcome.

Hillary lost. Trump won and will be sworn in on 20 Jan 2017 as POTUS.

Deal with it. Or not. None of us really give a shit. LOL
 
Pfft. "Trump will never win the nomination." "...Trump will never win the presidential election! His nomination has assured a Hillary landslide! Racist! Misogynists! Homophobes! Bigots!" "... Trump will never actually get into the white house, he'll be rejected by the electoral college! We'll send death threats!" "...IT WAS A WEAK VICTORY IT WAS A WEAK VICTORY! AMERICA DIDNT REJECT OUR SHIT IDEOLOGY AND CORRUPT CANDIDATE! IT WAS THE RUSSIANS!..."


You lost, get over it.
 
The Presidential Election of 2016 is unique in many ways, with maybe the most fascinating being that Donald Trump not only lost the popular vote by the largest margin of any President in total votes (2.84 million votes and counting), he also could not blame that fact on the presence of a strong third party challenger.

Not only did Donald Trump become the worst example of the Electoral College quandary that has now led to five Presidents losing the popular vote but being inaugurated President. Trump also became the 7th lowest popular percentage winner of the Presidency, with all six Presidents who had a lower popular vote percentage being part of an election in which a third or fourth party candidate had drawn substantial support. That wasn’t true in the election of 2016.

These are the relevant elections, ranked in order from lowest popular vote getter:

John Quincy Adams won a four-way race with a Democratic-Republican Party splitting up in the first popular vote election in 1824, winning 30.92 percent of the vote, ending up second in popular votes but winning the Presidency in the House of Representatives, over the first place popular and electoral vote winner, Andrew Jackson. (Jackson failed to win the presidency because he lacked a majority of the electoral vote, forcing the election into the House of Representatives.) Henry Clay and William Crawford also received electoral votes in that election which reorganized the party system. Jackson had a popular vote margin of about 38,000 over Adams, so Adams became the only popular vote loser among the lowest Presidents inaugurated, until now joined by Donald Trump.

Abraham Lincoln won 39.65 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1860, with his three competitors being Stephen Douglas, John C. Breckinridge, and John Bell, and all four winning electoral votes, but with Lincoln winning the second lowest percentage ever due to winning only the Northern “free states.”

Woodrow Wilson won 41.84 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1912, with four candidates in the race, and two of his opponents, President William Howard Taft, and former President Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Bull Moose Party) winning electoral votes, with TR having the best third party popular vote and electoral vote performance in all of American history, 6 states, 27.4 percent of the total popular vote, and 88 electoral votes.

Bill Clinton won 43.01 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1992, with President George H. W. Bush and H. Ross Perot, running as an Independent. Perot won no states in the Electoral College, but won 18.9 percent of the popular vote, the third best performance in that regard, causing Clinton to win the fourth lowest popular vote percentage in American history.

Richard Nixon won 43.42 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1968 against Democrat Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace, who ran on the American Independent Party line. Wallace gained 5 states, 13.5 percent of the total popular vote (fifth best ever in American history), and 46 electoral votes, the second best total after TR in 1912.

James Buchanan won 45.29 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1856, with John C. Fremont and former President Millard Fillmore running on the American (Know Nothing) party line, and winning 21.5 percent of the total popular vote, and gaining the 8 electoral votes of Maryland. In so doing, Fillmore had the second highest percentage of the popular vote of any third party in American history, behind TR in 1912.

More: Why Donald Trump’s Electoral College win is the weakest victory in American history

Therefore, Trump cannot factually claim that he has any kind of mandate. He doesn't.
His opponent didn't rate a historic victory. He kicked her in the nuts and she folded like a lightweight. Please post your next hysterical thought.
 
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The Presidential Election of 2016 is unique in many ways, with maybe the most fascinating being that Donald Trump not only lost the popular vote by the largest margin of any President in total votes (2.84 million votes and counting), he also could not blame that fact on the presence of a strong third party challenger.

Not only did Donald Trump become the worst example of the Electoral College quandary that has now led to five Presidents losing the popular vote but being inaugurated President. Trump also became the 7th lowest popular percentage winner of the Presidency, with all six Presidents who had a lower popular vote percentage being part of an election in which a third or fourth party candidate had drawn substantial support. That wasn’t true in the election of 2016.

These are the relevant elections, ranked in order from lowest popular vote getter:

John Quincy Adams won a four-way race with a Democratic-Republican Party splitting up in the first popular vote election in 1824, winning 30.92 percent of the vote, ending up second in popular votes but winning the Presidency in the House of Representatives, over the first place popular and electoral vote winner, Andrew Jackson. (Jackson failed to win the presidency because he lacked a majority of the electoral vote, forcing the election into the House of Representatives.) Henry Clay and William Crawford also received electoral votes in that election which reorganized the party system. Jackson had a popular vote margin of about 38,000 over Adams, so Adams became the only popular vote loser among the lowest Presidents inaugurated, until now joined by Donald Trump.

Abraham Lincoln won 39.65 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1860, with his three competitors being Stephen Douglas, John C. Breckinridge, and John Bell, and all four winning electoral votes, but with Lincoln winning the second lowest percentage ever due to winning only the Northern “free states.”

Woodrow Wilson won 41.84 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1912, with four candidates in the race, and two of his opponents, President William Howard Taft, and former President Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Bull Moose Party) winning electoral votes, with TR having the best third party popular vote and electoral vote performance in all of American history, 6 states, 27.4 percent of the total popular vote, and 88 electoral votes.

Bill Clinton won 43.01 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1992, with President George H. W. Bush and H. Ross Perot, running as an Independent. Perot won no states in the Electoral College, but won 18.9 percent of the popular vote, the third best performance in that regard, causing Clinton to win the fourth lowest popular vote percentage in American history.

Richard Nixon won 43.42 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1968 against Democrat Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace, who ran on the American Independent Party line. Wallace gained 5 states, 13.5 percent of the total popular vote (fifth best ever in American history), and 46 electoral votes, the second best total after TR in 1912.

James Buchanan won 45.29 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1856, with John C. Fremont and former President Millard Fillmore running on the American (Know Nothing) party line, and winning 21.5 percent of the total popular vote, and gaining the 8 electoral votes of Maryland. In so doing, Fillmore had the second highest percentage of the popular vote of any third party in American history, behind TR in 1912.

More: Why Donald Trump’s Electoral College win is the weakest victory in American history

Therefore, Trump cannot factually claim that he has any kind of mandate. He doesn't.

Trump losing the popular vote would be relevant if ... ANYONE RAN FOR THE POPULAR VOTE.

This red man not learn ways of white man. Tonto just want fire water and blankets without giving beads for them
 
Another lamo thread brought to you by the sore loser Shittingbull.

Sorry there SB but nothing you do will change the outcome.

Hillary lost. Trump won and will be sworn in on 20 Jan 2017 as POTUS.

Deal with it. Or not. None of us really give a shit. LOL

Trump will suffer the wrath of American patriots like me during his entire (hopefully limited) time in the White House. Just like NaziCons would have trashed Hillary had she won. Get used to it.
 
Another lamo thread brought to you by the sore loser Shittingbull.

Sorry there SB but nothing you do will change the outcome.

Hillary lost. Trump won and will be sworn in on 20 Jan 2017 as POTUS.

Deal with it. Or not. None of us really give a shit. LOL

Trump will suffer the wrath of American patriots like me during his entire (hopefully limited) time in the White House. Just like NaziCons would have trashed Hillary had she won. Get used to it.

ROFLMAO @ you calling yourself an American patriot
 
Another lamo thread brought to you by the sore loser Shittingbull.

Sorry there SB but nothing you do will change the outcome.

Hillary lost. Trump won and will be sworn in on 20 Jan 2017 as POTUS.

Deal with it. Or not. None of us really give a shit. LOL

Trump will suffer the wrath of American patriots like me during his entire (hopefully limited) time in the White House. Just like NaziCons would have trashed Hillary had she won. Get used to it.
LMAO!!! I'm sure he's as worried about your temper tantrums the same as I am. Not at all. But looking forward to laughing at you.
 
You LOST, learn to live with it.

Like I said in my above post:

Trump will suffer the wrath of American patriots like me during his entire (hopefully limited) time in the White House. Just like NaziCons would have trashed Hillary had she won. Get used to it.
 
The Presidential Election of 2016 is unique in many ways, with maybe the most fascinating being that Donald Trump not only lost the popular vote by the largest margin of any President in total votes (2.84 million votes and counting), he also could not blame that fact on the presence of a strong third party challenger.

Not only did Donald Trump become the worst example of the Electoral College quandary that has now led to five Presidents losing the popular vote but being inaugurated President. Trump also became the 7th lowest popular percentage winner of the Presidency, with all six Presidents who had a lower popular vote percentage being part of an election in which a third or fourth party candidate had drawn substantial support. That wasn’t true in the election of 2016.

These are the relevant elections, ranked in order from lowest popular vote getter:

John Quincy Adams won a four-way race with a Democratic-Republican Party splitting up in the first popular vote election in 1824, winning 30.92 percent of the vote, ending up second in popular votes but winning the Presidency in the House of Representatives, over the first place popular and electoral vote winner, Andrew Jackson. (Jackson failed to win the presidency because he lacked a majority of the electoral vote, forcing the election into the House of Representatives.) Henry Clay and William Crawford also received electoral votes in that election which reorganized the party system. Jackson had a popular vote margin of about 38,000 over Adams, so Adams became the only popular vote loser among the lowest Presidents inaugurated, until now joined by Donald Trump.

Abraham Lincoln won 39.65 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1860, with his three competitors being Stephen Douglas, John C. Breckinridge, and John Bell, and all four winning electoral votes, but with Lincoln winning the second lowest percentage ever due to winning only the Northern “free states.”

Woodrow Wilson won 41.84 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1912, with four candidates in the race, and two of his opponents, President William Howard Taft, and former President Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Bull Moose Party) winning electoral votes, with TR having the best third party popular vote and electoral vote performance in all of American history, 6 states, 27.4 percent of the total popular vote, and 88 electoral votes.

Bill Clinton won 43.01 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1992, with President George H. W. Bush and H. Ross Perot, running as an Independent. Perot won no states in the Electoral College, but won 18.9 percent of the popular vote, the third best performance in that regard, causing Clinton to win the fourth lowest popular vote percentage in American history.

Richard Nixon won 43.42 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1968 against Democrat Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace, who ran on the American Independent Party line. Wallace gained 5 states, 13.5 percent of the total popular vote (fifth best ever in American history), and 46 electoral votes, the second best total after TR in 1912.

James Buchanan won 45.29 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1856, with John C. Fremont and former President Millard Fillmore running on the American (Know Nothing) party line, and winning 21.5 percent of the total popular vote, and gaining the 8 electoral votes of Maryland. In so doing, Fillmore had the second highest percentage of the popular vote of any third party in American history, behind TR in 1912.

More: Why Donald Trump’s Electoral College win is the weakest victory in American history

Therefore, Trump cannot factually claim that he has any kind of mandate. He doesn't.
A mandate is in the eyes of a beholder. Trump's mandate (as viewed by the winners) is defined not only by Trump's electoral votes, and not only by the percentage of the States won.

Trump's mandate is just as significantly defined by the more than 800 States offices that were simultaneously LOST during Obummer's terms.

Thus, Trump's mandate is defined by the people's rejection of the libtardz agenda on a State and local, and finally a Federal level.

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