Why doesn't meat help meat eaters be healthy?

[Blues Man]

I am in control of my nature, thanks to God.

You just said only your god can change human nature so you are not in control.

 

[Blues Man]

There is no proven genetic link between dogs and wolves, the 'predatory' animal you refer to.

I didn't say wolves did I? There are different species of wild canines you know and they all portably had a common ancestor.

Do you just think domesticated dogs just appeared out of nowhere?

 

[Blues Man]

Seriously, do you believe these animals will live forever?

Nothing lives forever but they can live their lives naturally and die naturally.

 

[Blues Man]

So, it's all or nothing at all with you? You wouldn't be happy with an 80 percent reduction of the meat industry?

Would you be?

 

[Woodznutz]

You just said only your god can change human nature so you are not in control.

I said I control my nature thanks to God's spirit. It won't be changed until the resurrection.

 

[Blues Man]

I said I control my nature thanks to God's spirit. It won't be changed until the resurrection.

Now you're changing your mind you said and I quote

What you are suggesting is more than that however. You are suggesting a wholesale change in human nature. Only God can do that.

 

[Woodznutz]

Would you be?

I'm a shining example of moderation in that regard. I only consume a fifth of the meat of the average meat eater. Reducing meat consumption would help to bring balance to people diets as well as the environment.

 

[Blues Man]

I'm a shining example of moderation in that regard. I only consume a fifth of the meat of the average meat eater. Reducing meat consumption would help to bring balance to people diets as well as the environment.

So you support a reduction of the meat industry by 80%?

 

[Woodznutz]

Now you're changing your mind you said and I quote

Don't conflate change and control. A changed nature doesn't need to be controlled.

 

[Woodznutz]

So you support a reduction of the meat industry by 80%?

Absolutely. People eat too much meat.

 

[Woodznutz]

Nothing lives forever but they can live their lives naturally and die naturally.

A natural death is often slow and painful.

 

[Blues Man]

Don't conflate change and control. A changed nature doesn't need to be controlled.

Change can only happen if one has control.

If only your god can change human nature then you cannot hence you have no control.

 

[Blues Man]

A natural death is often slow and painful.

That's life isn't it?

Nature itself is not cruel because there is no intent.

Humans are cruel because they act intentionally.

 

[Blues Man]

Absolutely. People eat too much meat.

The you're not the "defender" of meat you claim to be.

 

[Woodznutz]

Change can only happen if one has control.

If only your god can change human nature then you cannot hence you have no control.

There's a bit more to it than that.

 

[Woodznutz]

The you're not the "defender" of meat you claim to be.

I support moderation in all things.

 

[Woodznutz]

That's life isn't it?

Nature itself is not cruel because there is no intent.

Humans are cruel because they act intentionally.

The optics may look cruel, I agree, but cruelty isn't the intent. IF anyone on the kill line exhibited cruelty they would be fired.

 

[Woodznutz]

That's life isn't it?

Nature itself is not cruel because there is no intent.

You have revealed the belief that we are an evolved species, therefore we kill just like the animals, with no cruel intent. And if there is cruelty it is a natural progression of evolution and therefore acceptable.

 

[Blues Man]

The optics may look cruel, I agree, but cruelty isn't the intent. IF anyone on the kill line exhibited cruelty they would be fired.

Cruelty is the reality in factory farming. You just choose to turn a blind eye

 

[Woodznutz]

Nothing lives forever but they can live their lives naturally and die naturally.

In one generation they would die out.