Carl in Michigan
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How does the Democrat Party differ from the American Communist Party?Because if you aren’t a republican conservative Christian, the only other choice is communist.
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How does the Democrat Party differ from the American Communist Party?Because if you aren’t a republican conservative Christian, the only other choice is communist.
Honestly? You really need that explained to you again? Come on, you're either thick as a brick or being dishonest. You have been told over and over the answer by many here. I am tired of wasting my time with you.Why does it being voted on by elected representatives means it is not socialism? Where in the definition does it make that specific point?
CPUSA supports Democrats.How does the Democrat Party differ from the American Communist Party?
Sorry, but you are wrong, leftist ideology does not relate to Marxism of communism.
The main aspect of leftist ideology is best represented by Jefferson,
and the influence the French Revolution had on him, such as:
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“Liberty, Equality, Fraternity” is the French motto which came about around the time of the french revolution . Liberty represents freedom, a word that has many meanings; firstly it can stand for being able to make ones own decisions freely and having the opportunity to be able to express ones own beliefs without fear.
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This comes from the idea that government is a corrupt creation by the wealthy elite.
So then ideal leftists tend to share views with extreme right wing Libertarians.
Marx also did not trust government, considered it a necessary but temporary risk.
Eventually he believed that the state should whither away and die.
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" Withering away of the state " is a Marxist concept coined by Friedrich Engels referring to the idea that, with the realization of socialism, the social institution of a state will eventually become obsolete and disappear as the society will be able to govern itself without the state and its coercive enforcement of the law. Contents
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Leftist tend to not be as idealistic as Marx, and believe the state is necessary in order to counteract the right wing multi national corporations.
But the biggest mistaken belief of the right is that communism is centralized, undemocratic, and precludes capitalism.
All that is totally wrong.
Boy, you really drank a gallon full of that Kool Aid, dintcha?Since communism is collective, cooperative, and communal, it has to be local, democratic, and allow capitalism.
What a fool.Wrong.
In WWI, the Germans brought Lenin to Russia in order to harm Russia and get it out of the war.
So Lenin was a paid German agent, and not an idealistic Communist.
And Stalin was even worse, since he was a capitalist bank robber and had no political idealism at all.
Since Stalin murdered all the communists and anarchists, the one thing we can be sure of is that he was absolutely NOT a communist.
If Stalin was a communist, then he would not have murdered and purged all the real communists.
"Mass killings under communist regimes occurred during the 20th century through a variety of means, including executions, famine, and deaths through forced labour, deportation, and imprisonment. Some of these events have been classified as genocides or crimes against humanity. These killings have been the subject of study by authors and academics and several have postulated potential causes of and factors associated with the occurrences of these mass killings. Some authors have tabulated a total death toll, consisting of all of the excess deaths which cumulatively occurred under communist regimes. The most common regimes and events which are included are the Soviet Union and the Holodomor and the Great Purge; the People's Republic of China and the Great Chinese Famine and the Cultural Revolution; and Democratic Kampuchea (now Cambodia) and the Cambodian genocide. Sometimes, other states and events have also been included."
Read and learn.Mass killings under communist regimes - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
You guys always say that. You're in denial...big time.Obviously none of these countries or events have anything at all to remotely do with communism.
Pol Pot for example, simply did not like cities, and forced everyone to live in the country instead.
How could anyone possibly then associate Pol Pot with communism?
No, YOU don't know what socialism is. The Defense budget is NOT a 'socialist institution.'
You're off in la la landObviously none of these countries or events have anything at all to remotely do with communism.
Pol Pot for example, simply did not like cities, and forced everyone to live in the country instead.
How could anyone possibly then associate Pol Pot with communism?
Lol if you how to explain it you just would.Honestly? You really need that explained to you again? Come on, you're either thick as a brick or being dishonest. You have been told over and over the answer by many here. I am tired of wasting my time with you.
I am just speaking for myself and will show some age in doing so. Some on the left did back during the Vietnam war, praising Ho Chi Minh, Mao and Castro. Waving communist flags at anti war demonstrations. Saying how great Che Guevara was and so on. Moving on thru the years we now see things like the green new deal, calling conservative activities on some college campuses hate speech etc. Just a couple of examples. Not all liberals embrace these ideas. There are liberals like Tulsi Gabbard who I would disagree with most of time but do have respect for. In any event that is from just my vantage point.Do you notice how no one on the American left ever actually talks about communism or Marxism being concepts the US should embrace? For whatever reason, republicans are convinced this is the case. Why I have no idea. We certainly won’t ever talk about abolishing capitalism, specifically.
Why does the right think the American leftwing political ideology relates to Marxism or communism?
Um, because it does?
Because if you believe in a particular philosophy, you would constantly extol its virtues, in order to get more converts.
There is no way you could secretly believe one thing and say something else, because anyone wanting to join would then quickly see the contradiction.
Earth to Rigby, you're describing no communist system that ever existed anytime in historyObviously none of these countries or events have anything at all to remotely do with communism.
Pol Pot for example, simply did not like cities, and forced everyone to live in the country instead.
How could anyone possibly then associate Pol Pot with communism?
Wrong.
In WWI, the Germans brought Lenin to Russia in order to harm Russia and get it out of the war.
So Lenin was a paid German agent, and not an idealistic Communist.
And Stalin was even worse, since he was a capitalist bank robber and had no political idealism at all.
Since Stalin murdered all the communists and anarchists, the one thing we can be sure of is that he was absolutely NOT a communist.
If Stalin was a communist, then he would not have murdered and purged all the real communists.
Already did, gave you citations, etc.Lol if you how to explain it you just would.
Been there done that, gave you thread numbers and citations. You ignored it all and are here beating your same dead horse. Many others here have explained that to you yet here you are STILL asking for explanations. As I said, at this point you are a waste of time.Lol if you how to explain it you just would.
You guys always say that. You're in denial...big time.
I get it now, you’re just ignorant as to the definition of socialism. Defense spending is voted on by elected representatives, that is not socialism.
Yeah, none of the avowed communists weren't communists. LOL Stalinism was a nasty outgrowth of Marxist-Communist philosophy. Do you know how dumb you are?Who is "you guys"?
Communists are always killed by the capitalists and taken over.
Again, can you produce a single thing ever written by Stalin about communism?
You can't.
That is because he was not at all a communist.
And real communists are always immediately murdered by capitalists.
The US even moved troops into Siberia in 1917, but decided it was easier just to kill off the real communists and put a stooge like Stalin into power.