Why does the right think the American leftwing political ideology relates to Marxism or communism?

[Leo123]

Wrong.

In theory socialism is an economic strategy of whether or not to invest government revenue into the means of production.
But whether or not you have elections is a political strategy and is orthogonal to economic strategies.
You can have a democratic republic and be socialist, or you can be authoritarian and be socialist.
The 2 have nothing to do with each other.

What a bunch of shit!! Go soak your ******* head!!

 

[Rigby5]

lol

lmao

Progtards are NOTHING like Thomas Jefferson.

TJ would be lhao at the dumbass progtards, and shaking his head in disbelief.




Oh horseshit.

You're trying to conflate modern progTARDism with classical liberalism, and they are NOT the same thing. Not even remotely close. Polar opposites.




Yeah. Big deal. Kropotkin didn't like the State either.

Progtards LOVE the State, they live it, they're madly in love with it.



Oh, you mean like Amazon? That kind of right wing? Or Coke? Or Nike, or Disney? That kind of right wing?




NO IT ISN'T.

How ******* ignorant do you have to be to say a dumbass thing like that?

Every one of those things is 100% true.

Communism REQUIRES a central authority, it can't function without it.

Communism is ALWAYS autocratic. ALWAYS. I defy you to name me one Communist system ever in history that didn't turn autocratic, or wasn't that way from the start


Boy, you really drank a gallon full of that Kool Aid, dintcha?

Communism is NOT cooperative. Mao's peasants slaughtered 100 million people. I don't call that cooperative. Do you?

Wrong communism is communal, collective, and cooperative, so can never be centralized or authoritarian.
Communism is like an Israeli Kibbutzim, employee owned companies like Chicago Northwester Railroad, etc.

 

[Rigby5]

Yeah, none of the avowed communists weren't communists. LOL Stalinism was a nasty outgrowth of Marxist-Communist philosophy. Do you know how dumb you are?

The only connection between Stalin and communism is that the communists conducted the revolution that he later took over, after he killed all the communists.
If Stalin was a communist, why would he have to kill off all the communists, like Trotsky?

 

[Billy000]

Already did, gave you citations, etc.

No you didn’t. Stop pretending you did.

 

[Woodznutz]

Lol.

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“To each according to needs” comes from the Book of Acts documenting the practices of early Christian communities in Jerusalem. In the Book of Acts, believers “were together and had all things in common” and sold their possessions and distributed the proceeds within the community “as any had needs.”​

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In “Voyage en Icarie,” Cabet tells of a fictional community who practice similar communal living arrangements. He later went to the U.S. and founded a number of “Icarian communities” in the second half of the 19th century, that practiced communal ownership of goods and were governed by egalitarian ideals.​

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“From each according to ability,” is likewise found in the Book of Acts: “So the disciples determined, everyone according to his ability, to send relief to the brothers living in Judea.” Cabet and Blanc both construed this phrase as a call for Christian servitude. They believed society to be a cooperative venture in which people of means should contribute more.​

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‘From each according to ability; to each according to need’ – tracing the biblical roots of socialism’s enduring slogan

At the height of Reaganism, close to half of Americans believed a phrase popularized by Karl Marx actually derived from the US Constitution. It doesn’t, but scholars have traced it to the Bible.

theconversation.com

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This is good to relieve needs during a temporary crisis, but fails as a long term economic model.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

We let too many communists get away with their heads still attached.

That will be rectified when these fuckers try their pathetic revolution.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Do you notice how no one on the American left ever actually talks about communism or Marxism being concepts the US should embrace? For whatever reason, republicans are convinced this is the case. Why I have no idea. We certainly won’t ever talk about abolishing capitalism, specifically.

You guys are just center left ...like the Buffalo shooter....we know

 

[Rigby5]

We let too many communists get away with their heads still attached.

That will be rectified when these fuckers try their pathetic revolution.

Between an looming energy shortage, over population, wars, pandemics like Monkeypox, ocean acidification, global warming, desertification of the US, etc., we are all going to have to be a lot more communist, in order to share what little is left.
We can no longer afford to keep sending arms all over the world like we did in the Ukraine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc.

 

[Leo123]

No you didn’t. Stop pretending you did.

Yes I did, stop pretending I didn’t.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Do you notice how no one on the American left ever actually talks about communism or Marxism being concepts the US should embrace? For whatever reason, republicans are convinced this is the case. Why I have no idea. We certainly won’t ever talk about abolishing capitalism, specifically.

Seeing you have Democratic Socialist under your damn name should tell everyone that you support Communism!

Democratic Socialists of America - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Try to be honest for once and realize within your own group they support concepts of communism but you will deny this!

 

[Leo123]

Wrong communism is communal, collective, and cooperative, so can never be centralized or authoritarian.
Communism is like an Israeli Kibbutzim, employee owned companies like Chicago Northwester Railroad, etc.

A CoOp is NOT a communist government, dufus.

 

[Leo123]

Between an looming energy shortage, over population, wars, pandemics like Monkeypox, ocean acidification, global warming, desertification of the US, etc., we are all going to have to be a lot more communist, in order to share what little is left.
We can no longer afford to keep sending arms all over the world like we did in the Ukraine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc.

Your are certifiable loony tuned at this point.

 

[Billy000]

We let too many communists get away with their heads still attached.

That will be rectified when these fuckers try their pathetic revolution.

This is clearly some kind of sexual fantasy for you lol

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Do you notice how no one on the American left ever actually talks about communism or Marxism being concepts the US should embrace? For whatever reason, republicans are convinced this is the case. Why I have no idea. We certainly won’t ever talk about abolishing capitalism, specifically.

Because we're not stupid and we listen to what they are saying.

Right now capitalism is being blamed by democrats for everything from Covid to Inflation.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Your are certifiable loony tuned at this point.

Always refreshing though when they come out of the closet removing all doubt.

 

[scruffy]

The only connection between Stalin and communism is that the communists conducted the revolution that he later took over, after he killed all the communists.
If Stalin was a communist, why would he have to kill off all the communists, like Trotsky?

You're being a complete doofus.

EVERY communist regime EVER has been authoritarian.

You're talking idealistic political theory, which NEVER happens in the real world.

This is why communism DOES NOT WORK, it's because the fuckers LIE about how sweet it all is.

REALITY is, communists are murderers and thieves. IN REAL LIFE. All of them. No exceptions.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

You're being a complete doofus.

EVERY communist regime EVER has been authoritarian.

You're talking idealistic political theory, which NEVER happens in the real world.

This is why communism DOES NOT WORK, it's because the fuckers LIE about how sweet it all is.

REALITY is, communists are murderers and thieves. IN REAL LIFE. All of them. No exceptions.

It's there new buzzword, all gov'ts are "Authoritarian" by design.

 

[scruffy]

Between an looming energy shortage, over population, wars, pandemics like Monkeypox, ocean acidification, global warming, desertification of the US, etc., we are all going to have to be a lot more communist, in order to share what little is left.
We can no longer afford to keep sending arms all over the world like we did in the Ukraine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc.

You're crazy.

I ain't sharing NOTHING with leftards who threaten my children.

Nothing except a pile of lead

No leftard piece of shit is going to drag me down to the lowest common denominator. No ******* way. You morons make your own bed, you can sleep in it

 

[Big Bend Texas]

You're crazy.

I ain't sharing NOTHING with leftards who threaten my children.

Nothing except a pile of lead

No leftard piece of shit is going to drag me down to the lowest common denominator. No ******* way. You morons make your own bed, you can sleep in it

If they want mine, they're going to have to earn it the hard way.

 

[cnm]

I didn't ignore anything, liar.

Except the point under discussion.