Zone1 Why does the Bible seem so misogynistic?

[task0778]

Why does the Bible seem so misogynistic?​

The bible was written a few thousand years ago when the entire world was pretty much misogynistic, and it's been that way long before and long since. Even now, there are places where women are treated worse than dogs.

 

[JohnDB]

I edited that post. Please reread it. But to your question just google "Misogyny in the Bible". Lots of examples. My question is, is there a legitimate reason?

Behind every one of these "legitimate" examples you will find poor hermeneutics behind each of these.

Where we can extrapolate from Ephesians 4 where Paul says "Do not become drunk on wine" that Paul intends for people not to be drunk on beer or liquor or recreational drugs either....
Paul doesn't include people becoming overly excited and not completely in control of themselves by the "party" atmosphere at a sporting event, political rally, or collection of people you have been desiring to meet up with. (That's stated in other verses)

We can understand what the author intends through the view of the Author and the recipients (in their culture and time period)and not a modern populist view of what people wish the scriptures to say.

And in each of these cases....someone unfamiliar with the proper handling of scriptures can be seen to be using them to further their own agenda....just like in times past when people used them to start wars or encourage slavery.

 

[playtime]

Rebuttal of stupidity is not concern. I am here to refute your lies.

Now gfy

 

[Woodznutz]

Shrug. The Catholic Bible, like the Hebrew, (and most translations) uses the term 'serpent', saying he was subtle (or shrewd, crafty). A synonym for 'serpent' is 'snake' which takes us back to the use of metaphors when relating a story. Are you really arguing whether the Hebrew means 'snake' or 'serpent'?

Literally it means neither. If you heard someone whispering in your ear, or a thought just popped into your head, would you immediately think "snake"?

 

[Woodznutz]

Behind every one of these "legitimate" examples you will find poor hermeneutics behind each of these.

Where we can extrapolate from Ephesians 4 where Paul says "Do not become drunk on wine" that Paul intends for people not to be drunk on beer or liquor or recreational drugs either....
Paul doesn't include people becoming overly excited and not completely in control of themselves by the "party" atmosphere at a sporting event, political rally, or collection of people you have been desiring to meet up with. (That's stated in other verses)

We can understand what the author intends through the view of the Author and the recipients (in their culture and time period)and not a modern populist view of what people wish the scriptures to say.

And in each of these cases....someone unfamiliar with the proper handling of scriptures can be seen to be using them to further their own agenda....just like in times past when people used them to start wars or encourage slavery.

Or perhaps to encourage better understanding.

 

[Meriweather]

Literally it means neither. If you heard someone whispering in your ear, would you immediately think "snake"?

If you have something to share, why not share it?

 

[Woodznutz]

If you have something to share, why not share it?

I have, several times. Eve and the 'enchanter' were one. As Satan entered into Peter, so did the 'deceiver' enter into Eve. When God addressed the deceiver, he was talking to Eve. That's why he told Eve that she would 'eat dust' and 'go on her belly' (literally, eat dirt and produce children from her womb).

 

[Meriweather]

I have, several times. Eve and the 'enchanter' were one. As Satan entered into Peter, so did the 'deceiver' enter into Eve. When God addressed the deceiver, he was talking to Eve. That's why he told Eve that she would 'eat dust' and 'go on her belly' (literally, eat dirt and produce children from her womb).

Except...serpents don't eat dust/dirt. But then, as a rule neither do people, and when some do, it is both men and women.

 

[Crepitus]

Well, it has been said that the Republican Party is the party of men, and women who think like men, and the Dems the party of women, and men who think like women.

What idiot said that?

Some dumbassed home schooled tRumpling I bet

 

[Woodznutz]

Except...serpents don't eat dust/dirt. But then, as a rule neither do people, and when some do, it is both men and women.

That's my point. Serpents don't eat dirt, but women do and have since time immemorial. Special dirt is sold just for them in the south. Eating dirt is a peculiarity of pregnant women especially, although men are also known to do it.

The Hebrew word "belly" as used in Genesis means literally "to give birth from the womb along with a flood of water". It has nothing to do with a snake crawling on its belly. God repeats this to Eve when he 'curses' her with conception and childbirth. Paul later confirms this when he says that women are redeemed (from their errors) by birthing children.

So, the eating of dirt and giving birth are closely related to women only and is the actual meaning of the Biblical narrative in Genesis.

 

[Woodznutz]

What idiot said that?

Some dumbassed home schooled tRumpling I bet

That originated long before Trump came on the scene.

 

[Meriweather]

That's my point. Serpents don't eat dirt, but women do and have since time immemorial. Special dirt is sold just for them in the south. Eating dirt is a peculiarity of pregnant women especially, although men are also known to do it.

The Hebrew word "belly" as used in Genesis means literally "to give birth from the womb along with a flood of water". It has nothing to do with a snake crawling on its belly. God repeats this to Eve when he 'curses' her with conception and childbirth. Paul later confirms this when he says that women are redeemed (from their errors) by birthing children.

So, the eating of dirt and giving birth are closely related to women only and is the actual meaning of the Biblical narrative in Genesis.

I don't agree.

 

[SweetSue92]

The misogyny is the treatment of women from that day forward, even to today, where the more popular term is 'sexism'.

What do you think the significance of Adam naming the animals is?

Why do you assume that sexism is God-ordained or God-approved?

The Bible records, but does not endorse, a lot of human behavior. Also, God's laws unfold over time--first to Israelites, then to Gentiles.

 

[SweetSue92]

I think this was what triggered his comments.


For any given thing there will be people who are more talented or in tune. These are the people who naturally lead others in their education. To argue against this is to argue against the natural order of how things are learned and taught.

What on earth are you talking about. For real: what.

 

[SweetSue92]

The smiley indicates what I think too: you think you are above being under authority. That's the first and most deadly sin. Pride.

So be it. Go your way.

 

[SweetSue92]

That's my point. Serpents don't eat dirt, but women do and have since time immemorial. Special dirt is sold just for them in the south. Eating dirt is a peculiarity of pregnant women especially, although men are also known to do it.

The Hebrew word "belly" as used in Genesis means literally "to give birth from the womb along with a flood of water". It has nothing to do with a snake crawling on its belly. God repeats this to Eve when he 'curses' her with conception and childbirth. Paul later confirms this when he says that women are redeemed (from their errors) by birthing children.

So, the eating of dirt and giving birth are closely related to women only and is the actual meaning of the Biblical narrative in Genesis.

"Alpha Male"

Sure, do you. Just don't attempt to loop God into it

 

[Leviticus]

You're able to eat bacon. It's your funeral. Your parasites. Your heart disease. Your cancer.

Dad yelled at me when he saw me reaching for that pretty red stove top. He said I can't touch it! Why is Dad so mean?!

You can get just as many parasites from beef and lamb as you can pork. And beef and lamb are far worse for the heart. Red meat has ALOT more cholesterol and saturated fat overall than most cuts from a pig.

 

[ding]

What on earth are you talking about. For real: what.

What you said in post #26 triggered what woodnutz said in post #31 about being Catholic.

 

[Woodznutz]

Why do you assume that sexism is God-ordained or God-approved?

The Bible records, but does not endorse, a lot of human behavior. Also, God's laws unfold over time--first to Israelites, then to Gentiles.

I believe there is much more to be learned. Things happen for a reason.

 

[Woodznutz]

What on earth are you talking about. For real: what.

I think he is saying that there is always something new to learn, that not everything has been revealed, and that someone (like me) may actually have uncovered knowledge previously unknown. For example, Christians and others still believe that the ark was some sort of "ship". The fact that the Bible describes it as a large boxlike structure, covered with tar, that looks like a building completely escapes them.

Things get rooted in people's minds over time and are very difficult to root out. Because of this they are unable to move ahead.