Zone1 Why Do Zealots Justify Violence Because Their Goad Will Not Do It ?

[Monk-Eye]

" How Do Zealots Justify Violence Because Their Goad Will Not Do It ? "

* Invocation Of Violence To Justify Ineptitude Of A Purported Omnipotent *

The author of the qurayn named surah 47 after itself and asserts the following :

47:5 So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if God had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of God - never will He waste their deeds.


* Absolved Of Accountability Through Allusions To A Theatrical Macabre In A Court Of Final Judgement *

9:29 Fight those who do not believe in God or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what God and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islām] from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.


* September 11 2001 And Directives For Killing Are Not In The Gospel *

9:111 Indeed, God has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of God, so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’ān. And who is truer to his covenant than God? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.

 

[ReinyDays]

Are you confusing all of Islam with just Saudi Arabia? ... our hero, Donald Trump, has already been there to perform oral sex ... that buys us time until the next Democrat is elected ...

When Muhammad returned to Mecca ... in force ... he spared the lives of the women and children ... the Saudis are not so, they profane the name of Allah ... and murder everyone at will ... thanx Big Oil ...

 

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" How Do Zealots Justify Violence Because Their Goad Will Not Do It ? "

* Invocation Of Violence To Justify Ineptitude Of A Purported Omnipotent *

The author of the qurayn named surah 47 after itself and asserts the following :

47:5 So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if God had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of God - never will He waste their deeds.


* Absolved Of Accountability Through Allusions To A Theatrical Macabre In A Court Of Final Judgement *

9:29 Fight those who do not believe in God or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what God and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islām] from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.


* September 11 2001 And Directives For Killing Are Not In The Gospel *

9:111 Indeed, God has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of God, so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’ān. And who is truer to his covenant than God? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.

You prefer how militant atheists justified their mass murders?

 

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" How Do Zealots Justify Violence Because Their Goad Will Not Do It ? "

* Invocation Of Violence To Justify Ineptitude Of A Purported Omnipotent *

The author of the qurayn named surah 47 after itself and asserts the following :

47:5 So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if God had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of God - never will He waste their deeds.


* Absolved Of Accountability Through Allusions To A Theatrical Macabre In A Court Of Final Judgement *

9:29 Fight those who do not believe in God or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what God and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islām] from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.


* September 11 2001 And Directives For Killing Are Not In The Gospel *

9:111 Indeed, God has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of God, so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’ān. And who is truer to his covenant than God? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.

You think killing and murder only exist because people believe in Goad?

My how naive you are. <giggle>

 

[ReinyDays]

You prefer how militant atheists justified their mass murders?

Actually ... yes ... to be honest ... God only wants white people killed ... these Wahhabists tend to murder more darkies and Jews than whities ... at least Hitler killed whities and Jews ... not so evil IMEIO ...

Better ... lets sit down together, share a few bong-hits ... the real enemy here is BIRDS ... damn things will shit in your open mouth and not care ... the bastards ...

I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to hijack this thread ... but them grackles shore are purdy birdy ... Texans are lucky to have them around ... even with shit in your mouths ... do you know where else it's illegal to carry a gun into a liquor store ... COMMUNIST CHINA ... Oregon might be Bluest-of-the-Blue but I can bring a .38 into the damn liquor store if I want to ...

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Absolution By Shifting Blame To The Unaccountable "

* Zealots Fabricating An Excuse For Absolution *

You think killing and murder only exist because people believe in Goad?
My how naive you are. <giggle>

Many have justified killing for many reasons , however ultimately they must own up to that it was they who directed the killing and not defer accountability to the will of some deity .

 

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Oregon might be Bluest-of-the-Blue but I can bring a .38 into the damn liquor store if I want to ...

You should really consider upgrading to a 357.

 

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" Absolution By Shifting Blame To The Unaccountable "

* Zealots Fabricating An Excuse For Absolution *

Many have justified killing for many reasons , however ultimately they must own up to that is was they who directed the killing and not some deity .

So you aren't upset with the killings just who they blame it on?

 

[ReinyDays]

Grackles are songbirds ... maybe that helps ...

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Convert Or Be Contemptuously Subjugated "

* Taking Literal Statements Of The Doctrine At Its Word *

Are you confusing all of Islam with just Saudi Arabia?

There is only the genetic religion of qurayshism , which would apply to lineal descendants of ishmael , within the city state of hejaz .

There is no such a thing as a religion of islam , meaning to submit , and no such thing as a muslim , one who submits , to a religion that does not exist .

* Women As War Booty And Males Under 14 Indoctrinated *

When Muhammad returned to Mecca ... in force ... he spared the lives of the women and children ... the Saudis are not so, they profane the name of Allah ... and murder everyone at will ... thanx Big Oil ...

While big oil has played its part in riling up the masses , you are missing about +1400 years of homicide by doctrine by fictional ishmaelism .

Islamic State committed genocide, says US

US Secretary of State John Kerry says the Islamic State group has committed genocide against Yazidis, Christians and Shia Muslims.

www.bbc.com

IS regards Yazidis as devil-worshippers who may be killed or enslaved with impunity.
In August 2014, thousands of Yazidis living in the Nineveh plains of north-western Iraq were rounded up by IS militants. Men and boys over the age of 14 were separated from the women and girls and shot.
The women and girls were abducted as "spoils of war" and openly sold or handed over as "gifts" to IS militants. Girls as young as six and nine years old were raped, witnesses told the UN.
Boys under the age of 14 were separated from their mothers, transported elsewhere and forced to convert to Islam. They were subjected to religious and military training.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Fabricating Absolution From Personal Accountability By Alluding To Hoke Us Poke Us "

* Ignorance For The Obvious Derivation Of Excuses *

So you aren't upset with the killings just who they blame it on?

It is called taking responsibility for your own actions .

 

[ReinyDays]

" Convert Or Be Contemptuously Subjugated "

* Taking Literal Statements Of The Doctrine At Its Word *

There is only the genetic religion of qurayshism , which would apply to lineal descendants of ishmael , within the city state of hejaz .

There is no such a thing as a religion of islam , meaning to submit , and no such thing as a muslim , one who submits , to a religion that does not exist .

* Women As War Booty And Males Under 14 Indoctrinated *

While big oil has played its part in riling up the masses , you are missing about +1400 years of homicide by doctrine by fictional ishmaelism .

Islamic State committed genocide, says US

US Secretary of State John Kerry says the Islamic State group has committed genocide against Yazidis, Christians and Shia Muslims.

www.bbc.com

IS regards Yazidis as devil-worshippers who may be killed or enslaved with impunity.
In August 2014, thousands of Yazidis living in the Nineveh plains of north-western Iraq were rounded up by IS militants. Men and boys over the age of 14 were separated from the women and girls and shot.
The women and girls were abducted as "spoils of war" and openly sold or handed over as "gifts" to IS militants. Girls as young as six and nine years old were raped, witnesses told the UN.
Boys under the age of 14 were separated from their mothers, transported elsewhere and forced to convert to Islam. They were subjected to religious and military training.

So you're just plain stupid then ... grackles are New World blackbirds ... closely related to the Baltimore Oriole ... or are you saying the Theory of Evolution doesn't exist? ...

The Romans never killed anybody? ... boy you are stupid ...

 

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" Fabricating Absolution From Personal Accountability By Alluding To Hoke Us Poke Us "

* Ignorance For The Obvious Derivation Of Excuses *

It is called taking responsibility for your own actions .

Then you should take responsibility for blaming religion instead of people.

 

[there4eyeM]

Why Do Zealots Justify Violence Because Their Goad Will Not Do It ?​

Often at least, it is because they are trying to goad a reaction by their deity.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Blaming Dementia In Religious Doctrine And Idiots That Invoke It "

* Qurayshism Is Genetic Religion *

Then you should take responsibility for blaming religion instead of people.

Sew says ewe , a sanctimonious psychopath invoking a religious license to kill on behalf of a deity , because the deity will not do it itself .

8:67 It is not for a prophet to have captives [of war] until he inflicts a massacre [upon God’s enemies] in the land. You [i.e., some Muslims] desire the commodities of this world, but God desires [for you] the Hereafter. And God is Exalted in Might and Wise.

8:75 And those who believed after [the initial emigration] and emigrated and fought with you - they are of you. But those of [blood] relationship are more entitled [to inheritance] in the decree of God. Indeed, God is Knowing of all things.

 

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" Blaming Dementia In Religious Doctrine And Idiots That Invoke It "

* Qurayshism Is Genetic Religion *

So says ewe , a sanctimonious psychopath invoking a religious license to kill on behalf of a deity , because the deity will not do it itself .

8:67 It is not for a prophet to have captives [of war] until he inflicts a massacre [upon God’s enemies] in the land. You [i.e., some Muslims] desire the commodities of this world, but God desires [for you] the Hereafter. And God is Exalted in Might and Wise.

8:75 And those who believed after [the initial emigration] and emigrated and fought with you - they are of you. But those of [blood] relationship are more entitled [to inheritance] in the decree of God. Indeed, God is Knowing of all things.

Not sure how I can be sanctimonious when I don't see myself as a good person. It seems with this argument you are making a case that you are sanctimonious.

How does my arguing that you are more concerned with blame than the actual killing make me a psychopath?

You should really learn how to live and let live. You'll be much happier in life.

 

[ReinyDays]

" Blaming Dementia In Religious Doctrine And Idiots That Invoke It "

* Qurayshism Is Genetic Religion *

Sew says ewe , a sanctimonious psychopath invoking a religious license to kill on behalf of a deity , because the deity will not do it itself .

8:67 It is not for a prophet to have captives [of war] until he inflicts a massacre [upon God’s enemies] in the land. You [i.e., some Muslims] desire the commodities of this world, but God desires [for you] the Hereafter. And God is Exalted in Might and Wise.

8:75 And those who believed after [the initial emigration] and emigrated and fought with you - they are of you. But those of [blood] relationship are more entitled [to inheritance] in the decree of God. Indeed, God is Knowing of all things.

God certainly hates you ... sheesh ... what a blowhard ...

Grackles are a flocking bird ... in case you weren't aware of that fact ... I never knew ...

 

[ReinyDays]

Cute:

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Nomians Stipulating Letter Of The Law Absolve Selves Of Violence Against Antinomians "

* Uniform Fetish Virtue Offering Piety For Good Intentions While Paving A Way To Heaven With Hell *

Not sure how I can be sanctimonious when I don't see myself as a good person.

Yeah , sure , selling it in theaters nation wide .




2:177 Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in God, the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves; [and who] establishes prayer and gives zakāh; [those who] fulfill their promise when they promise; and [those who] are patient in poverty and hardship and during battle. Those are the ones who have been true, and it is those who are the righteous.


* Pairing Idealism With Realism Versus Violent Declarations And A Universal Scope *

It seems with this argument you are making a case that you are sanctimonious.

An insistence on application of valid terminology for political science discourse relates that creed is mutable and subject to discretion and to discrimination .

The principles of non violence define violence as illegitimate aggression , where self defense against illegitimate aggression is legitimate aggression .

The principles of individualism defines violence against an individual , as illegitimate aggression against self ownership or self determination of an individual , where self ownership entitles an individual to free roam , to free association and to progeny , and where self determination entitles an individual to own private property and exercise of willful intents , by entering into social civil agreements , made valid through informed consent .

There is not a difference between edicts and tenets of a creed and a religion , an there is not an exception in us first amendment for a religion with edicts or tenets of creed to violate principles of non violence , and us republic is founded upon principles of individualism .

A creed for principles of non violence and individualism are not universally adopted , and such a creed differs markedly against principles for a creed that disavows independence of the individual , and also includes edicts and tenets to implement aggression by discrimination , even illegitimate aggression , when and where possible , to manifest its religious creed over all .


* Head Down Blind Obedience Before Lofted Anuses In Enshrined Direction To Shiny Bung Hole With Ass Wad *

How does my arguing that you are more concerned with blame than the actual killing make me a psychopath?

Because deferring blame is a subversive tactic of fear ( takfir ) , so as to continue a sanctimonious pogrom to facilitate a perception of justice , with an understanding that facilitating social and cultural superiority for his bah ( hisbah ) includes absolution from committing violence as justified .


* Ensuring Live And Let Live For A Happier Life Versus Pretentious Sooth Saying Facilitator Of Hypocrisy *

You should really learn how to live and let live. You'll be much happier in life.

Torahnism is a genetic religion for preservation of the patriarchal lineage of eponymous isaac , where the tenets , cultural traditions and city state laws ( 613 mitzvot ) , as proposed in the torah , would only apply within israel .

Qurayshism is a genetic religion for preservation of the patriarchal lineage of eponymous ishmael, where the tenets , cultural traditions and city state laws ( sharia ) , as proposed in the qurayn , would only apply within hejaz .

Included in the doctrines of torahnism and qurayshism are tenets of creed to apply violence to establish those religious polities within the respective city states of israel and hejaz .

Given that qurayshism would apply violence to establish its religious polity within hejaz is limited in scope and conceivably tolerable .

Given that torahnism would apply violence to establish its religious polity within israel is limited in scope and conceivably tolerable .

Any pretense that qurayshism applies outside of hejaz is debase and termed fictional ishmaelism .

Very much less tolerable are presumptions for fictional ishmaelism to implement qurayshism universally - outside of hejaz , that implicitly includes tenets of creed to apply violence to establish its religious polity , against which self defense is entitled to all those subject to its affects .

. End of Debate Over Whether To Reconcile .

 

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" Nomians Stipulating Letter Of The Law Absolve Selves Of Violence Against Antinomians "

* Uniform Fetish Virtue Offering Piety For Good Intentions While Paving A Way To Heaven With Hell *

Yeah , sure , selling it in theaters nation wide .




2:177 Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in God, the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves; [and who] establishes prayer and gives zakāh; [those who] fulfill their promise when they promise; and [those who] are patient in poverty and hardship and during battle. Those are the ones who have been true, and it is those who are the righteous.


* Pairing Idealism With Realism Versus Violent Declarations And A Universal Scope *

An insistence on application of valid terminology for political science discourse relates that creed is mutable and subject to discretion and to discrimination .

The principles of non violence define violence as illegitimate aggression , where self defense against illegitimate aggression is legitimate aggression .

The principles of individualism defines violence against an individual , as illegitimate aggression against self ownership or self determination of an individual , where self ownership entitles an individual to free roam , to free association and to progeny , and where self determination entitles an individual to own private property and exercise of willful intents , by entering into social civil agreements , made valid through informed consent .

There is not a difference between edicts and tenets of a creed and a religion , an there is not an exception in us first amendment for a religion with edicts or tenets of creed to violate principles of non violence , and us republic is founded upon principles of individualism .

A creed for principles of non violence and individualism are not universally adopted , and such a creed differs markedly against principles for a creed that disavows independence of the individual , and also includes edicts and tenets to implement aggression by discrimination , even illegitimate aggression , when and where possible , to manifest its religious creed over all .


* Head Down Blind Obedience Before Lofted Anuses In Enshrined Direction To Shiny Bung Hole With Ass Wad *

Because deferring blame is a subversive tactic of fear ( takfir ) , so as to continue a sanctimonious pogrom to facilitate a perception of justice , with an understanding that facilitating social and cultural superiority for his bah ( hisbah ) includes absolution from committing violence as justified .


* Ensuring Live And Let Live For A Happier Life Versus Pretentious Sooth Saying Facilitator Of Hypocrisy *

Torahnism is a genetic religion for preservation of the patriarchal lineage of eponymous isaac , where the tenets , cultural traditions and city state laws ( 613 mitzvot ) , as proposed in the torah , would only apply within israel .

Qurayshism is a genetic religion for preservation of the patriarchal lineage of eponymous ishmael, where the tenets , cultural traditions and city state laws ( sharia ) , as proposed in the qurayn , would only apply within hejaz .

Included in the doctrines of torahnism and qurayshism are tenets of creed to apply violence to establish those religious polities within the respective city states of israel and hejaz .

Given that qurayshism would apply violence to establish its religious polity within hejaz is limited in scope and conceivably tolerable .

Given that torahnism would apply violence to establish its religious polity within israel is limited in scope and conceivably tolerable .

Any pretense that qurayshism applies outside of hejaz is debase and termed fictional ishmaelism .

Very much less tolerable are presumptions for fictional ishmaelism to implement qurayshism universally - outside of hejaz , that implicitly includes tenets of creed to apply violence to establish its religious polity , against which self defense is entitled to all those subject to its affects .

. End of Debate Over Whether To Reconcile .

I hope you didn't spend a lot of time writing that.