Why Do Trump Supporters Have Such A Hard Time Admitting He's A Convicted Felon?

[Rambunctious]

You stupid morons were all about draining the swamp for 10 years,until you found out your dear leader was involved.

Pizzagate, the fake news conspiracy theory that led a gunman ...​

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Dec 5, 2016 — How Pizzagate went from the musings of 4chan trolls to the cause for a gunman at Comet Ping Pong.

Massie is down the drain... all of Trump's endorsements won.... have a beautiful day... I sure will....

 

[Rambunctious]

SO?
What's your point, numbnuts?

We live in a very litigious society....

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

We live in a very litigious society....

Yeah, I know.
Trump is in his own category.

Still doesn't excuse Trump for LYING...........AGAIN.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, when you file your taxes, Q-NUT.

So Q-NUT, why did your dear leader try to file the NDA, as something else?

Malaria?

NDAs are tax deductible, legal fees are tax deductible.

DURR

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

NDAs are tax deductible, legal fees are tax deductible.

DURR

DURR, yourself Q-NUT.

Filing your tax deductions aren't mix and match, retard.

You can't file a storm damage deduction and new tires for your truck as business "expenses" without being specific.

Lying about them is a crime.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

DURR, yourself Q-NUT.

Filing your tax deductions aren't mix and match, retard.

You can't file a storm damage deduction and new tires for your truck as business "expenses" without being specific.

Lying about them is a crime.

There is no difference between NDA and legal fees as far as the tax deduction is concerned.
They are both deductible.

DURR

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

There is no difference between NDA and legal fees as far as the tax deduction is concerned.
They are both deductible.

Trump's "accounting" correspondence course doesn't give refunds, Q-NUT.

DURR

You have the attention span and the comprehension capacity of your dear leader.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Trump's "accounting" correspondence course doesn't give refunds, Q-NUT.

You have the attention span and the comprehension capacity of your dear leader.

And you're still a moron.

 

[WorldWatcher]

NDAs are tax deductible,

Check the IRS, NDAs are not always tax deductable. NDA's for sexual harrassment or abuse are not tax deductable. Not saying this was part of this NDA.

legal fees are tax deductible.

DURR

Here it's not quite so easy as it seems and and actually works against Trump.

See if Trump had paid the legal fees out of his own accounts as a private individual, such legal fees are not considered a tax deductable business expense. Legal fees for personal actions are not tax deductable.

However legal fees for a business ARE tax deductable for non-sexual harrassement/abuse settlements. For example to protect trade secrets.

But in this case the taxable nature of the legal fees goes to show the Trump scheme was intended to hide Cohen's crime. To wit:

• Cohen paid Daniels $130,000 to support Trump's campaign out of his own pocket. That would have been a reimbursable legal expense (expense not fee) that WOULD NOT have counted as income for Cohen (since it was a reimbursement) for money paid. Billed as a one time payment for a $130,000 expense.
• However the Trump scheme was to reimburse Cohen for the expense (non-taxable) testimony at trial was specifically the $130,000 would be taxed up and invoiced for a retrainer that didn't exist for "services" that were not performed. All to hid Cohen's crime.
• Finally by running it through his business to further hide the transactions his PERSONAL legal expenses are not a tax deduction for the BUSINESS enity.

So by running it though his business his attempted to make his personnal expense and tax deductable business expense.

From Cohen's perspective, reimbusement for the $130,000 would not be income, it would be reimbursement of an expense. But to hide it the Trump scheme was to "tax up" the amount to the Trump Organization could hide the reimbursement and pay it as income instead of reimbursement for boinking a porn star. While claiming it as a tax deduction when such personnal agreementgs are not tax deductable.

WW

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

And you're still a moron.

Poor Q-NUT.
See above, ask the kids at the short bus stop to explain it to you.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Poor Q-NUT.
See above, ask the kids at the short bus stop to explain it to you.

They said they missed you and can't wait for your return.

 

[Southern Dad]

In other words it was a fake “felony”. His accountant paid his lawyer legal fees. No actual crime. The prosecution even said it wasn’t a crime itself, but only is because it was to cover up some other crime. Only they never specific this other “crime”, didn’t charge him with this other crime, and the judge instructed the jury they could make up any crime they like. So he was literally convicted over an imaginary crime that was never even charged much less proven in a court of law.

Call it whatever you want, it doesn’t change the fact that at this time, Trump is indeed a convicted felon. It didn’t stop me or you from voting for him. But he is still a convicted felon.

 

[Southern Dad]

I recall that election. I was there at the time.

Well, I must say, if you were there at that time, you are doing well for your age.

It was 1824. No candidate received a majority (at least 131 of 261) of the electoral votes:

• Andrew Jackson: 99 electoral votes (plurality of popular vote too)
• John Quincy Adams: 85
• William H. Crawford: 41
• Henry Clay: 37

Under the 12th Amendment (ratified 1804), the House chose from the top three candidates (Jackson, Adams, Crawford). Each state delegation got one vote, needing a majority of states (13 of 24 at the time) to win

 

[Southern Dad]

You can offer a link that says what sentence Trump received... and where he did time.... I'll wait....

Continuing to post this ignorance just shows everyone in the forum that the author of this thread is right. There are some, YOU, for example, that just do not understand nor will you understand. I’ve linked a copy of the sentence for you to read. I don’t expect you to read it. Not everyone who gets convicted of a felony serves time. It isn’t required as part of the sentence.

https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFs/press/PDFs/People%20v.%20DJT%20Clayton%20Decision.pdf

 

[Robert W]

Well, I must say, if you were there at that time, you are doing well for your age.

It was 1824. No candidate received a majority (at least 131 of 261) of the electoral votes:

• Andrew Jackson: 99 electoral votes (plurality of popular vote too)
• John Quincy Adams: 85
• William H. Crawford: 41
• Henry Clay: 37

Under the 12th Amendment (ratified 1804), the House chose from the top three candidates (Jackson, Adams, Crawford). Each state delegation got one vote, needing a majority of states (13 of 24 at the time) to win

Thomas Jefferson is the first winner when he tied Aaron Burr.

 

[Robert W]

Call it whatever you want, it doesn’t change the fact that at this time, Trump is indeed a convicted felon. It didn’t stop me or you from voting for him. But he is still a convicted felon.

I expect more recent courts will overturn that conviction.

 

[Mick2]

It was obtained after lying to a bank about his debt and the purpose of the loan. For that crime, he was indicted and convicted and incarcerated. So yes, illegally obtained.

Trump didn't use a loan for that puny amount. It was his money, pea brain.

 

[Ropey]

It's nice to watch the libs politically cut their own throats.

Led by Tucker, et al.

 

[Political-Junkie]

And if you don't see it, it's not armed robbery.
You can't instruct the jury that it doesn't matter, they don't have to agree on the weapon.

Sure it is, if it "appears" to be a gun.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/160.10

(b) Displays what appears to be a pistol, revolver, rifle, shotgun,
machine gun or other firearm;

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Sure it is, if it "appears" to be a gun.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/160.10

(b) Displays what appears to be a pistol, revolver, rifle, shotgun,
machine gun or other firearm;

It's in his pocket and was never displayed.