Why Do Trump Supporters Have Such A Hard Time Admitting He's A Convicted Felon?

[theHawk]

None. There is no requirement that a person convicted of a Class E felony in New York be sentenced to any time, any probation, or any fines.

In other words it was a fake “felony”. His accountant paid his lawyer legal fees. No actual crime. The prosecution even said it wasn’t a crime itself, but only is because it was to cover up some other crime. Only they never specific this other “crime”, didn’t charge him with this other crime, and the judge instructed the jury they could make up any crime they like. So he was literally convicted over an imaginary crime that was never even charged much less proven in a court of law.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Cohen didn't plead the charge down. He was indicted on a campaign finance violation, pled guilty to that campaign finance violation, and convicted on that campaign finance violation.

No, the primary crime he pled to was tax evasion, the other charges were just added to pad it. In my opinion they were added to be used against Trump since a typical plea bargain requires the defendant to provide testimony against other people or the deal is vacated.

 

[dblack]

No one wants to admit that they fell for a con.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

not misdemeanors. fel-o-nies.

34 felonies.

There are a total of five felony classes: Class A felony, Class B felony, Class C felony, Class D felony, and Class E felony, with A being the most serious (potentially leading to life imprisonment) and E being the least. However, this does not mean that a Class E felony charge should be taken at all lightly – New York State penal code describes a Class E felony as ‘an offense for which a sentence to a term of imprisonment in excess of one year may be imposed’.
What is a New York Class E Felony?

Class “E” felonies are the least serious felonies. However, they are still felonies, still need to be taken seriously and can result in a prison sentence of up to 4 years in state prison. However, there are no minimums for first time felony offenders and a person convicted of a class “E” felony can even receive a sentence of probation or a conditional discharge. Most class “E” felonies are non-violent. The only violent class “E” felonies are attempts to commit violent class “D” felonies such as Attempted Assault in the Second Degree or Attempted Criminal Possession of a Weapon in the Third Degree. N0n-violent class “E” felonies can run the gamut from Criminally Negligent Homicide, Grand Larceny in the Fourth Degree or Criminal Mischief in the Third Degree. A person who is a predicate felon is required to go to prison even on a “E” felony.
D.A. Bragg Announces 34-Count Felony Trial Conviction of Donald J. Trump

Exactly.

Misdemeanors

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Under New York Penal Law § 175.10, falsifying business records is normally a misdemeanor, but it is elevated to a Class E felony when the false entries are made to conceal or commit another crime.

also the statute of limitations is extended when the false entries are made to conceal or commit another crime

Trump mounted an aggressive, years-long legal effort during his first term to block New York prosecutors and congressional committees from accessing his tax returns and business records. However, he did not permanently block the records; after multiple appeals, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in July 2020 that he was not immune to state grand jury subpoenas

also the statute of limitations is extended when the false entries are made to conceal or commit another crime

The other crime was what?

 

[Mick2]

They were told they didn't have to be unanimous on the underlying crime. They only had to be unanimous in that a crime was committed, aided or concealed.

Correct, that's what the judge instructed. That's not what qualifies as Constitional, however. Quoting trial judge Merchan's instructions to the jury:

The above instruction is plainly unconstitutional regarding not needing to be unanimous for the underlying predicate crime. Per Constitutional scholar Seth Barrett Tillman (who interestingly also filed an amicus brief in support of President to the SCOTUS in the Colorado ballot measure):

The jury "must be unanimous to each two predicate acts" was the ruling of the Second Circuit Court of Appeals when faced with a RICO case with the same triggering mechanism for enhanced charging.

The Right to a Unanimous Verdict and the Jury Instructions in People v. Trump

Seth Tillman argues that Justice Merchan's jury instructions in Manhattan trial may have denied former President Trump the right to a unanimous verdict.

www.justsecurity.org

No doubt that if this case survived long enough in the lower courts (it won't) to make it SCOTUS that Tillman would once again file Amicus brief to the Supremes. In short, this conviction is simply nothing more than a dead man walking. We all know that it was lawfare and its real intent wasn't criminal but political. Why are you so resistant to admit this case's warts, its obvious political motivation, and its inevitable doom? We all know it's happening. You are like an ox that's kicking against the pricks. The more you're disproven, the more angry you get and the harder you kick back. The harder you kick back just injures you some more which makes you more angry. On and on. Before long you were a beaten, bloody mess. LOL

 

[Robert W]

What if I told you that we actually had one election where the guy who got the most popular votes, carried the most states, and even got the most electoral votes, did not win the presidency.

I recall that election. I was there at the time.

 

[Mick2]

Exactly.

Misdemeanors

Expired misdemeanors at that so nothing

 

[Mick2]

No one wants to admit that they fell for a con.

We never fell for Merchan and Bragg's lawfare. We defeated it soundly and re-elected President Trump to a 2nd term!