Why Do Trump Supporters Have Such A Hard Time Admitting He's A Convicted Felon?

No they didn't.

They changed the law in regards to the overall "Me Too" movement. Not specifically for Carroll, for all women that had been abused.

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They purposely changed the law to get Trump. Just look at the timing. The MeToo movement has been around for a while and yet they didn't do this until it was time to get Trump.
 
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That is different than the criminal charges.
It's the basis of his case, which he used to 'elevate' the other charges into felonies. The unnamed crime?

For the purposes of his case against Trump, then, Bragg is arguing that Trump falsified the Trump Organization’s business records with the intent to criminally violate FECA. Ruling on Trump’s motion in limine, Merchan held that Bragg may not point to Cohen’s guilty plea or the Justice Department or FEC agreements with AMI as themselves evidence of Trump’s guilt, but that the district attorney may offer “testimony about the underlying facts … provided the proper foundation is laid.”
Trump has leveled multiple legal challenges against Bragg’s use of FECA as an object offense, arguing in his motion to dismiss that a violation of federal law can’t serve as the “other crime” under § 175.10. Merchan, however, held it could. Trump also argued that FECA preempts state law and thus rules out prosecution under § 175.10 with FECA as the object offense. Merchan rejected this argument as well, relying on a ruling last July to that effect by Judge Alvin Hellerstein of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York in the context of rejecting Trump’s attempt to remove this case to federal court.
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Jonathan Turley:

A leading threshold issue will be the decision to allow Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg to effectively try Trump for violations of federal law. The Justice Department declined any criminal charges against Trump under federal election law over the alleged “hush money” payments. The Federal Election Commission likewise found no basis for a civil fine. With no federal prosecution, Bragg decided to use an unprecedented criminal theory not only to zap a dead misdemeanor into life (after the expiration of the statute of limitation) but to allow him to try violations of not only federal election law but also federal taxation violations. In other words, the Justice Department would not prosecute federal violations, so Bragg effectively did it in state court.

Even when closing arguments were given, analysts on various networks admitted that they were unclear about what Bragg was alleging. The indictment claimed a violation under New York’s election law 17-152 that the falsification of business records were committed to further another crime as an unlawful means to influence the election. However, in a maddeningly circular theory, that other crime could be the falsification of business records. It could also be violations of federal election and taxation laws, which Trump was never charged with, let alone convicted of.
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The prosecutors then proceeded to expressly state that it was “a fact” that federal election violations occurred in this case and that Trump ordered those violations. They also solicited such statements from witnesses like Cohen. Merchan overruled the objections that the prosecutors were eviscerating his instruction. Merchan also barred the use of a legal expert, former FEC Chair Brad Smith, who was prepared to testify that such payments cannot be viewed as federal election violations and would not affect the election even if they were considered contributions, since they would not even have had to be reported until after the election.

Merchan is likely to be upheld in denying the expert, since the court retains the authority to state what the law is to the jury. The problem is that Merchan failed to do so. Worse still, he allowed the jury to hear the opposite in the repeated false claim that these payments were campaign contributions.



 
Well, that should have been for the jury to decide. But Marchan prevented that.
I'm not talking about the jury. I'm talking about whether or not Trump bought Daniels' silence because of the election. All the evidence points to he did. I don't see any evidence he didn't.
 
she wasn't a porn star - she was a playboy bunny.

Karen McDougal: Who is the second woman in Trump case?​

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Karen McDougal: Who is the second woman in Trump case?

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she's the other brunette.
She was an expensive whore as was the other prostitute. Karen Demanded Trump pay her off. So did Daniels.
 
Giving a campaign contribution of $130,000 when the legal limit was $2700 isn't a crime?
She was not receiving money for a campaign; she was extorting Trump; both women were whores. Both told Trump pay me or I will hurt you. How did both of them escape prison?
 
I will acknowledge that Trump is a "convicted felon" as soon as some Leftist can articulate what crime he was convicted of.
 
Giving a campaign contribution of $130,000 when the legal limit was $2700 isn't a crime?
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Merchan also barred the use of a legal expert, former FEC Chair Brad Smith, who was prepared to testify that such payments cannot be viewed as federal election violations and would not affect the election even if they were considered contributions, since they would not even have had to be reported until after the election.
 
She was not receiving money for a campaign; she was extorting Trump; both women were whores. Both told Trump pay me or I will hurt you. How did both of them escape prison?
How did they escape prison? It’s really very simple. Your story is false.
 
How did they escape prison? It’s really very simple. Your story is false.
What is your story? She collected a hell of a lot of money for using her vagina. Are you claiming she paid Trump? Figure it out, he paid, she collected. She extorted him.
 
Do you believe lawfare should be used against your political enemies?
No, I do not, but Trump dies and he has done it since day one. How come you do not criticize him for that?

By the way, how does that apply to Trump’s criminal conviction? other than the fact that Trump did the criminal act in order to generate those actions to get elected. Do YOU support politicians (especially running for President) that do criminal acts to get elected?
 
I'm not talking about the jury. I'm talking about whether or not Trump bought Daniels' silence because of the election. All the evidence points to he did. I don't see any evidence he didn't.

That isn't a crime.

Techically only partially true. To paraphrase Paul Harvey... There is more to the story.

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Under federal campaign finance law individuals are limited to the amount of cash and (what are called) in-kind contributions to a campaign exceeding these limits is why Cohen was charged and convicted of Federal campaign finance fraud. However, a candidate can contriubute UNLIMITED funds and contributions to their own campaign, the catch is that is has to be reported to the FEC and such records are available to the public.

#2
Testimony in court was that Trump wanted to stiff Daniels (pun intended). To delay payment until after the votes had been cast at which point he could withhold payment and the story could come out as the election was over. That shows the payments were about the condition of the campaign and not for preventing the story coming out as Trump was fine with it coming out later.

#3
As the bumper sticker pionts out, paying for an NDA is not illegal. However no one was ever charged with obtaining an NDA. The charges stemmed from (a) the method of payment by Cohen fronting the money (which was illegal), and (B) Trump money laundering the money through his business to hide Cohen's crimes. The later payments were spread out and "invoiced" for a retainer that didn't exist (Cohen didn't work for Trump by this time) and for services not preformed during the period of the invoice. Breaking the payments over a year was specifically to hide the payments instead of making a one-time lump sum payment.

#4
So Trump COULD have done this all legally, but choose not to, instead using illegal methods to make the NDA payment (Cohen's actions) and to hide Cohen's crime by falsifying records. How could Trump have done it leally?
  • Choen negotiates the deal with Daniels and her lawyer,
  • Trump withdraws the required amount from his personal accounts,
  • Trump provide Cohen with the legal instrument of payment (certified check, electronic transfer, etc.),
  • The deal is closed, Trump pays and both parties sign the NDA,
  • Trump then reports the contribution to his campaign to the FEC.
So a candidate can make unlimited cash and in-kind contributions to their own campaign. Trump gives Cohen the payment instrument. Meaning Cohen would not have had to front the campaign the illegal loan. Cohen would not have been convicted of Federal campaign fraud. Daniels would have been paid off and kept her mouth shut. But the payment would have been public record.

Now remember the timing. This was just before the election. The final FEC filing had ALREADY been made and was in the public record. At this point Trumps filing of the cash support to his campaign would have had to be reported until AFTER the election. And since testimony in court was Trump was fine if the story came out later, he would have achived his goal.

Under Scenerio #4 there was no crime. Cohen didn't commit campaign fraud, Trump wouldn't have been convicted of falsification of business records.

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I'm not talking about the jury. I'm talking about whether or not Trump bought Daniels' silence because of the election. All the evidence points to he did. I don't see any evidence he didn't.
No man would call a whore and ask her how much can he pay her. She and McDougall extorted him. He either paid them or they would tell the press. Both should have been prosecuted. Sex is not a crime. Both women consented.
 
We've already given you facts. We asked you what the crime was and you couldn't answer.
Have you even bothered to do ANY research? It was clearly stated at the trial the laws that he broke, which were there for decades and which were broken by 7 other people in the past and who were also prosecuted and found guilty!!!!!!!!

Are you that in love with ignorance and so incapable of doing research?
 

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