Why do people bitch & whine about the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty so much?

[sparky]

U.S.S. Liberty

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[irosie91]

There has never been a single shred of physical evidence presented that the Israeli planes strafed the life rafts of Liberty survivors.

on the contrary----Israel launched a rescue response

 

[Zebra]

It seems like every time you turn around in any discussion about Israel you see people whining about the Israeli attack on the intelligence gathering ship U.S.S.Liberty during the Six Day War?

USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia

The attack was first by some IDF fighters that killed 9 aboard then when IDF torpedo boats closed on the ship one of them launched a torpedo which hit Liberty squarely and killed 25 more.

Israel apologized for the attack and paid compensation to the U.S. for the dead and injured as well as damage to the ship.

Mistakes happen in war zones. You don't hear the British whining on and on about the accidental air strikes by the U.S. during Desert Storm that killed dozens of British soldiers.

make a poll!

 

[irosie91]

make a poll!

for the record----the USS Liberty made a big mistake---it floated itself into an active war zone and did not bother to inform the Israeli Navy of its presence---AND the Israeli navy HAILED the ship---and it did not answer. I can assure you---although I do not actually have the inside information-------here it is---a HEAD ROLLED for that error----OUR NAVY DOES NOT TAKE SUCH MISTAKES LIGHTLY----navy officer heads have rolled for far less.
Other mistakes happened----and captains have been deprived of
their commissions for-----less. PS---the iceberg that hit the titanic was not placed there by Israel. That was a maritime mistake too

 

[surada]

being born

That's what I figured. You have a poor education as well.

 

[irosie91]

That's what I figured. You have a poor education as well.

surada knows---she is an officer in the US navy---very educated

 

[sparky]

On 10 October 2003, The Jerusalem Post ran an interview with Yiftah Spector, one of the pilots who participated in the attack.[110] Spector said the ship was assumed to be Egyptian, stating that: "there was positively no flag". The interview also contains the transcripts of the Israeli communications about the Liberty. However, the journalist who transcribed the tapes for that article, Arieh O'Sullivan, later confirmed that "the Israeli Air Force tapes he listened to contained blank spaces".[7] The Liberty's survivors contradict Spector. According to subsequently declassified NSA documents: "Every official interview of numerous Liberty crewmen gave consistent evidence that the Liberty was flying an American flag—and, further, the weather conditions were ideal to ensure its easy observance and identification."[111]

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[sparky]

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[sparky]

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[Desperado]

Who needs enemies when you have Israel for a supposed friend

 

[sparky]

Who needs enemies when you have Israel for a supposed friend

LOL
we had no enemies in the M.E. before Israel.....

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[surada]

for the record----the USS Liberty made a big mistake---it floated itself into an active war zone and did not bother to inform the Israeli Navy of its presence---AND the Israeli navy HAILED the ship---and it did not answer. I can assure you---although I do not actually have the inside information-------here it is---a HEAD ROLLED for that error----OUR NAVY DOES NOT TAKE SUCH MISTAKES LIGHTLY----navy officer heads have rolled for far less.
Other mistakes happened----and captains have been deprived of
their commissions for-----less. PS---the iceberg that hit the titanic was not placed there by Israel. That was a maritime mistake too

Right...and the UN is to blame for the Hamas attack....and Trump say Nikki Haley is to blame for January 6th.

 

[irosie91]

Right...and the UN is to blame for the Hamas attack....and Trump say Nikki Haley is to blame for January 6th.

drinking again, surada?? since you are feeling down--CHEER YOURSELF by
focusing on the events of Oct. 7----armed jihadis breaking into jew-homes--
using blow torches to incinerate infants---shoving guns into jew-vaginas
and with a joyful ALLAHU AKBARR_----shooting out jew guts. ---you can
imagine yourself in JANNAH !!!!!

 

[surada]

What makes you think I support Israel?

https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/uss-cole-bombing

Seventeen sailors were killed in the attack: Kenneth E. Clodfelter, 21; Richard Costelow, 35; Lakeina M. Francis, 19; Timothy L. Gauna, 21; Cherone L. Gunn, 22; James R. McDaniels, 19; Marc I. Nieto, 24; Ronald S. Owens, 24; Labika N. Palmer, 22; Joshua L. Parlett, 19; Patrick H. Roy, 19; Kevin S. Rux, 30; Ronchester M. Santiago, 22; Timothy L. Saunders, 32; Gary G. Swenchonis Jr., 26; Andrew Triplett, 31, and Craig B. Wibberley, 19.

 

[surada]

drinking again, surada?? since you are feeling down--CHEER YOURSELF by
focusing on the events of Oct. 7----armed jihadis breaking into jew-homes--
using blow torches to incinerate infants---shoving guns into jew-vaginas
and with a joyful ALLAHU AKBARR_----shooting out jew guts. ---you can
imagine yourself in JANNAH !!!!!

The Israelis have been killing Palestinians and taking their land for 80 years. Lots of innocent people on both sides are dead.

 

[irosie91]

The Israelis have been killing Palestinians and taking their land for 80 years. Lots of innocent people on both sides are dead.

Muslims have been murdering jews and stealing their possessions and
confiscating their land for 1400 years----millions dead, raped, even kidnapped as children and forced into the filth and stench of islam.......
and zoroastrians, and hindus and christians---and even kurds

 

[Grau]

That Israel air force also shot down a Libyan airliner over the Sinai just a few years removed from the Liberty attack (killing all aboard).

All military units can and have made mistakes.

Among the many things that America's traitorous gaggle of "Israel Firsters" omit about Israel's deliberate attempt to sink the USS Liberty and murder its entire crew is the fact that the Israelis used unmarked planes in the initial attacks on the liberty

- Did America's most insidious and parasitic "ally" forget to put markings on the planes sent to sink the USS Liberty?

- Another detail that Israel's traitorous shills omit is that an ethical Israeli pilot refused to kill Americans and was later arrested for his courage:

"Israeli Pilot Speaks Up"
https://www.wrmea.org/1993-june/the-assault-on-the-uss-liberty-still-covered-up-after-26-years.html

EXCERPT "Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested."CONTINUED

- Still another fact that confirms Israel's attempt to leave no American survivors is their pride in having strafed lowered life rafts while American G.I.s were trying to evacuate the wounded.
The cowardly IDFers were so proud of killing Americans and strafing life rafts (a war crime) that they hung the remains of one lift raft in Israel’s National Maritime Museum in Haifa


"Commonly Asked Questions about the USS Liberty"
Prepared by the Independent Commission of Inquiry

Commonly Asked Questions about the USS Liberty

If Americans Knew is dedicated to providing Americans with everything they need to know about Israel and Palestine.

ifamericaknew.org

EXCERPT "After the attack was thought to have ended, three life rafts were lowered into the water to rescue the most seriously wounded. The Israeli torpedo boats returned and machine-gunned these life rafts at close range."CONTINUED


"The Forgotten Sneak Attack"
https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/09/the-forgotten-sneak-attack/

EXCERPT "The life raft taken by the Israeli torpedo boat and the wheel of the torpedo boat that succeeded in hitting Liberty are on display at Israel’s National Maritime Museum in Haifa. In Israel, those who participated in the attack are celebrated as national heroes."CONTINUED

- Yet another fact that debunks the "accident" lie is the fact that an American EC121 spy plane overheard the Israeli attackers and because of that damning information, the Israelis tried to shoot down that same American plane to hide its murderous intentions.


"Israel’s Attack on the USS Liberty: A Half Century Later, Still No Justice"
Israel's Attack on the USS Liberty: A Half Century Later, Still No Justice

EXCERPT "As the attacks were going on, conversations between Israeli pilots were overheard by US Air Force officers in an EC121 surveillance plane overhead. The spy plane was spotted by Israeli jets, which were given orders to shoot it down. The American plane narrowly avoided the IDF missiles."CONTINUED

Finally, since you've never served in America's military and routinely attempt to justify Israel's repeated betrayals, that's why so many loyal Americans have responded so strongly to your betrayal of America's own G.I.s in support of a treacherous and parasitic regime.


"NEW EVIDENCE PROVES ISRAEL ATTACKED USS LIBERTY WITH ORDERS TO KILL 294 AMERICANS"

Flashback: New Evidence Proves Israel Attacked USS Liberty With Orders to Kill 294 Americans – Socio-Economics History Blog

socioecohistory.x10host.com

EXCERPT "Navy Admiral Thomas Moorer, who has served this country as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Chief of Naval Operations, once lead an independent commission to investigate what really happened to the USS Liberty. The commission’s findings were made public in 2003. Here are a few of the shocking conclusions.

• The attack, by a U.S. ally, was a deliberate attempt to destroy an American ship and kill its entire crew.
• The attack included the machine-gunning of stretcher-bearers and life rafts .
• The White House deliberately prevented the U.S. Navy from coming to the defense of the USS Liberty. This was the first time in naval history a rescue mission had been cancelled while an American ship was under attack.
• Surviving crew members were later threatened with court-martial, imprisonment, or worse if they talked to anyone about what had happened to them; and were “abandoned by their own government.”CONTINUED

 

[Dayton3]

https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/uss-cole-bombing

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What does the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole have to do with me? or Israel?

 

[sparky]

EXCERPT "After the attack was thought to have ended, three life rafts were lowered into the water to rescue the most seriously wounded. The Israeli torpedo boats returned and machine-gunned these life rafts at close range."

This ^^^ is our allies in the M.E.

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[Bluedevil]

It seems like every time you turn around in any discussion about Israel you see people whining about the Israeli attack on the intelligence gathering ship U.S.S.Liberty during the Six Day War?

USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia

The attack was first by some IDF fighters that killed 9 aboard then when IDF torpedo boats closed on the ship one of them launched a torpedo which hit Liberty squarely and killed 25 more.

Israel apologized for the attack and paid compensation to the U.S. for the dead and injured as well as damage to the ship.

Mistakes happen in war zones. You don't hear the British whining on and on about the accidental air strikes by the U.S. during Desert Storm that killed dozens of British soldiers.

The attack on the USS Liberty was a deliberate, premeditated, well planned and almost perfectly executed attack on a lone, freshly painted, well-marked, correctly identified, non-combatant, virtually unarmed US Navy ship by the most powerful military in the Middle East allied with the President of the United States in violation of international law and US Statutes.

Of a crew of 294 officers and men (including three civilians), the ship suffered thirty-four (34) killed in action and at least one hundred seventy-four (174) wounded in action. Over70% casualty rate.

The ship itself, a Forty Million ($40,000,000) Dollar state-of-the-art signals intelligence (SIGINT) platform, suffered such severe damage that it never embarked on another operational mission and got sold in 1970 as scrap for $101,666.66.

The attack included the jamming of our radios on both US Navy tactical and international maritime distress frequencies, the use of unmarked aircraft by the forces attacking the USS Liberty, and the deliberate machine gunning of life rafts we had dropped over the side in anticipation of abandoning ship.

While we were still under attack and calling for help, the White House ordered the recall of rescue aircraft that had been launched from Sixth Fleet aircraft carriers.

Obeying that order cost the lives of 25 of our shipmates killed by the torpedo.

It was also a capital violation of Article 99 of the UCMJ which the DoD has waived regarding the attack on our ship. (See 10 U.S. Code § 899 - Art. 99. Misbehavior before the enemy)

After they recalled those flights, Sixth Fleet personnel listened to our calls for help as the attack continued, knowing they were forbidden to come to our help.

On June 8, 2005 USS Liberty survivors submitted “A Report: War Crimes Committed Against U.S. Military Personnel, June 8, 1967” with the Department of the Army. (See https://www.ussliberty.com/files/public/War Crimes Report with Exhibits.pdf)

Under the Department of Defense Law of War Program, the DoD is obligated to ensure “All reportable incidents committed by or against U.S. personnel, enemy persons, or any other individual are reported promptly, investigated thoroughly, and, where appropriate, remedied by corrective action.” (See https://media.defense.gov/2023/Jul/...OF-WAR-MANUAL-JUNE-2015-UPDATED-JULY 2023.PDF)

The DoD has yet to convene an investigation of the allegations contained in our War Crimes Report.

The attack on our ship is the only attack on a #USNavy ship since the end of WWII NOT investigated by the US government.

Prove it for yourself:

Ask your Congressional Delegation for a Copy of the Congressional Investigation of the Attack on the USS Liberty Provide Copy of Congressional Investigation of USS Liberty Attack.

Ask your Congressional Delegation to ask the Congressional Research Service if the US government has investigated the attack on the #USSLiberty. Congressional Research Service.

Ask Congressional Historians for a Copy of the Congressional Investigation of the Attack on the USS Liberty Ask for a Copy of the Congressional Investigation of the Attack on the USS Liberty.

If you want to learn more about the attack on our ship, watch an interview of three USS Liberty survivors by Jocko Willink at Page Redirection.