Why Do Liberal/Progressives Seek To Impose Their Views On Others?

[The Rabbi]

See, you push values on people against their will. You are a fascist.

Guy, you had no problem pushing values on people when it was the white, Christian majority in charge, filling the restaurant with smoke and buying textbooks for Texas that don't teach about no evolution because Jesus would cry.

You just don't like it that you aren't making the calls anymore.

Thats totally wrong.
No one was obligated to eat in a smokng restaurant.
Local school boards choose textbooks.
As usual you've got nothing.

 

[The Rabbi]

History teaches that when Progressive finally take the guns away, the death toll goes into 8 or 9 figures

Really? Only if you read a history book written by a retard.

Hey, the problem in Nazi Germany and Russia and China was you had too many people with guns who just saw the breakdown of law and order as an excuse to kill the neighbors.

Joe, that's completely utterly wrong. Only someone totally ignorant of those societies could post something so stupid.

 

[The Rabbi]

Progs eat, breath and sleep CONTROL. They HATE anyone who DARE disagree with them.

Here's the basic difference between a prog and a conservative...

... on the topic of the second amendment and the right to own a gun...

... the conservative says, "hey, if you don't want to own a gun, don't own one."

... the prog says, "I don't like guns, so I don't want ANYBODY to be able to own one."

And there you have it, the BASIC, CORE DIFFERENCE between progs and conservatives.

Conservatives want the freedom for people to make their own choices and keep the government out of it, and the progs want to impose their agenda on everyone by the government forcing them whether they like it or not.

We see all it all day, every day.

32,000 gun deaths and 78,000 gun injuries every year. It would be nice if you guys kept the carnage to yourselves, but the rest of us end up paying for it. It is estimated gun violence costs this country 300 billion a year. so, yeah, we should have a say about who gets a gun, and just because some Slave Rapists couldn't properly word a Militia Amendment, is not a good reason for the insanity.

Queers swap around more stds than anyone else. You support that. It cost us all, so go fuck off.

How about your fat wives and children jacking up the costs of healthcare?

Not married, i'm 5' 11" 155 lbs. My son same height about 140 lbs. So what are you talking about? Oh, and my ex is about 5' 3" and weighs about 120 lbs. Anyway what does that have to do with queers and stds? Besides you know I'm right. Oh, and another thing since obamacare health care is free! Right?

Just pointing out fat straights cost us more than skinny gays. In america you are free to be fat or gay.

The same way you pay more for healthcare if you smoke you should pay more if you are fat or gay. Lol

Why? If you smoke you should get a subsidy. Smokers die earlier, saving lots of money for the state.
It is a fascist argument in any case. It denies people freedom.

 

[The Rabbi]

"Why Do Liberal/Progressives Seek To Impose Their Views On Others?"

This fails as a loaded question fallacy, in addition to being a lie.

It is neither a fallacy nor a lie. I cited examples of progressives doing exactly that. I could cite dozens more. Look at the progs on campus demonstrating against certain speakers and shutting them down. That is fascism in motion.

 

[Eaglewings]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

Really?

Not too long ago I remember a large voting group trying to tell me what to do with my female parts, trying to bring us back to the 1800's....

I know a large group who brainwash people ( especially the Bible Belt ) into thinking that if they don't vote for their party ....they are not a christian........

So many still fall for that...

 

[The Rabbi]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

Really?

Not too long ago I remember a large voting group trying to tell me what to do with my female parts, trying to bring us back to the 1800's....

I know know a large group who brainwash people ( especially the Bible Belt ) into thinking that if they don't vote for their party ....they are not a christian........

So many still fall for that...

Really? Please post who these people are telling you you can't have an appendectomy or whatever. Who are these people brainwashing others about Christians only voting for one party? I live in the buckle of the Bible Belt and have seen only the opposite: Progrssves telling people they werent Christian because they opposed some giveaway or other.

 

[Eaglewings]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

Really?

Not too long ago I remember a large voting group trying to tell me what to do with my female parts, trying to bring us back to the 1800's....

I know know a large group who brainwash people ( especially the Bible Belt ) into thinking that if they don't vote for their party ....they are not a christian........

So many still fall for that...

Really? Please post who these people are telling you you can't have an appendectomy or whatever. Who are these people brainwashing others about Christians only voting for one party? I live in the buckle of the Bible Belt and have seen only the opposite: Progrssves telling people they werent Christian because they opposed some giveaway or other.

Even Wiki knows who tries to run a woman's right to take care of herself while making it easier to get Viagra for themselves.
War on Women - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Even Wiki knows who runs the bible belt...Bible Belt - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[kiwiman127]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

Oh boy, another dumb ass totally partisan driven OP that says the same thing we have heard a thousand times by partisans from both sides.
"They do it but we don't do it!"

What a load of steaming crap.

 

[The Rabbi]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

Really?

Not too long ago I remember a large voting group trying to tell me what to do with my female parts, trying to bring us back to the 1800's....

I know know a large group who brainwash people ( especially the Bible Belt ) into thinking that if they don't vote for their party ....they are not a christian........

So many still fall for that...

Really? Please post who these people are telling you you can't have an appendectomy or whatever. Who are these people brainwashing others about Christians only voting for one party? I live in the buckle of the Bible Belt and have seen only the opposite: Progrssves telling people they werent Christian because they opposed some giveaway or other.

Even Wiki knows who tries to run a woman's right to take care of herself while making it easier to get Viagra for themselves.
War on Women - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Even Wiki knows who runs the bible belt...Bible Belt - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Deflection on the questions noted. You are dismissed as a lightweight hack.

 

[The Rabbi]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

Oh boy, another dumb ass totally partisan driven OP that says the same thing we have heard a thousand times by partisans from both sides.
"They do it but we don't do it!"

What a load of steaming crap.
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Sorry but please post comparable examples to what I've posted for lib/progressives. Shouldn't be hard, right?

 

[Stephanie]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

Really?

Not too long ago I remember a large voting group trying to tell me what to do with my female parts, trying to bring us back to the 1800's....

I know a large group who brainwash people ( especially the Bible Belt ) into thinking that if they don't vote for their party ....they are not a christian........

So many still fall for that...

wow, speaking of a brainwashed. total nonsense garbage

 

[BluesLegend]

Progressives, that is, those who want the US to progress toward Socialism/Communism/Fascism have a genuine, deep rooted, genetic level hatred of humanity. They think people are helpless and stupid or should be rendered defenseless and helpless. Only then can we truly reap the benefits of the all knowing, benevolent Central government leader.

Progressive liberals feel they are a special elite master class. Smarter, born naturally superior, and destined to rule the masses. Yes that's just how evil they are.

 

[The Rabbi]

Progressives, that is, those who want the US to progress toward Socialism/Communism/Fascism have a genuine, deep rooted, genetic level hatred of humanity. They think people are helpless and stupid or should be rendered defenseless and helpless. Only then can we truly reap the benefits of the all knowing, benevolent Central government leader.

Progressive liberals feel they are a special elite master class. Smarter, born naturally superior, and destined to rule the masses. Yes that's just how evil they are.

That is exactly correct. The look down on the rubes in flyover country as savages who need to be "educated" so they can be a "new race of man" of one kind or another. They are heirs to the Brownshirt brigades.

 

[Stephanie]

Progressives, that is, those who want the US to progress toward Socialism/Communism/Fascism have a genuine, deep rooted, genetic level hatred of humanity. They think people are helpless and stupid or should be rendered defenseless and helpless. Only then can we truly reap the benefits of the all knowing, benevolent Central government leader.

Progressive liberals feel they are a special elite master class. Smarter, born naturally superior, and destined to rule the masses. Yes that's just how evil they are.

BINGO!!!!!

 

[Stephanie]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

Really?

Not too long ago I remember a large voting group trying to tell me what to do with my female parts, trying to bring us back to the 1800's....

I know a large group who brainwash people ( especially the Bible Belt ) into thinking that if they don't vote for their party ....they are not a christian........

So many still fall for that...

no one cares about your all's stinky vaginas. good grief
do you progressives have any shame, values, morals, principles. honor, PRIDE?

 

[SuperDemocrat]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

We all live in the same society which means we must all think alike. Whenever someone thinks different it upsets the consensus and we must accept it as a whole or reject it as a whole. Opinions held by the minority can't exist which means these people must be bullied, shamed, ridiculed into submission. In another century we just killed them but because we got laws preventing us from doing that we must resort to more humane ways of doing that. Whenever I get like this I wish we could bring back stallin. He knew how to deal with right wing extremist. The good old days....

 

[Conservative65]

Another lying Liberal piece of shit.

Do you support social welfare programs? Do you support Obamacare? Do you support the free community college tuition proposal by Obama? Do you support any big government program that gives the federal government authority to do things for which the Constitution gives no specific delegated authority?

I support social welfare in principle, but I think it's badly managed.
I think Obamacare is flawed because it's built on top of the already flawed system of private health insurance.
No, I think that's a bad idea.
I think that we live in a modern state, in the 21st century, not the 18th. Just because some slave-rapist didn't think of something 240 years ago doesn't make it a bad idea.

Then you support imposing your social views on others.

Just because you want the federal government to have the authority to do something that they don't have the power to do doesn't mean it should be done. The founding fathers did put a way into the Constitution if you want the federal government to have authority they weren't originally granted. You know that such things wouldn't get passed in that manner.

 

[Conservative65]

We all do it... Liberals and Conservatives, and Centrists and Independents alike.

What distinguishes Liberals from the rest, I think, is their obnoxious insistence upon getting their own way by any means and at any cost.

And there are even exceptions in that category - there are, indeed, examples of such disingenuous and overbearing behaviors on the part of the others, as well.

It's just that Liberals / Progressives seem to do it sooooo much more frequently than the others, that Lib-Progs end-up 'eating' (suffering) the attaching of the stereotype to them, and end-up 'owning' it - fairly or unfairly - rightly or wrongly.

The most disgusting aspect of this, for me, is the seeming insistence of Lib-Progs that they pretend to know what is good for you, soooo much better than you do yourself.

It's the mindset which says that not only are there some things that the government does better than the individual, but that most things are better done by the government than by the individual - and that they know better than you, which things those are.

Not to mention their willingness-in-a-heartbeat to empty your wallet on behalf of The Beehive Collective, insofar as they can get away with it, by any means, fair or foul.

Most LIb-Progs probably start-out meaning well, and a great many in their ranks are young, and inexperienced, and naive and gullible, and are absolutely certain that they have all the answers...

These younglings have all the energy and fervor and zeal of the New Religious Convert, having found a Substitute God to worship, and a wide-ranging Congregation in which to reside, and they work very hard to advance their 'faith' and to zealously advocate for their 'substitute godhead'; 'missionary work' - secular style - for many younglings.

Lib-Prog ranks also include old-timers and minorities who oftentimes seem not to have done well in life, and who band-together and submit to The Beehive Collective, seeking safety in numbers, rather like a school fish.

Lib-Prog ranks also seem to include a few here and there who have done well in life, and who enjoy the White Man's Guilt or Rich Man's Duty to Humanity, and who lend some additional weight to an oftentimes otherwise lightweight collection of juicy rationalizations and erzatz justifications for their Beehive Collective Mindset.

Because a great many of them believe that they are the one-and-only answer, and that they, above all others, fight for justice and peace and the betterment of Mankind - they oftentimes and nearly unconsciously slip into a "The End Justifies the Means" framework in their dealings with others who do not think like them...

Lib-Progs - once they slip into End-Justifies-the-Means mode - then seem to slowly but surely slip into the role of the Socialist Revolutionary - most recently represented in the 20th by the Communists in various parts of the world.

Of course, we all know how that Grand Experiment turned out.

All the rest of us can do is to take the best of what they offer and incorporate that into a saner overall governance and society, while rejecting the more impractical or idiotic or touchy-feely crap they dream-up, and bitch-slap them back to Reality when they get lose control and become dangerous or - more frequently - just a genuine pain in the ass.

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"A man who is not a Liberal in his youth has no heart.

A man who is not a Conservative in his old age has no brains."

- Winston Churchill

( an apocryphal attribution )

As a liberal, I can say with certainty, none of that is true.

Now, here's what you should have said...

Another lying Liberal piece of shit.

Do you support social welfare programs? Do you support Obamacare? Do you support the free community college tuition proposal by Obama? Do you support any big government program that gives the federal government authority to do things for which the Constitution gives no specific delegated authority?

All these things exist in america. So do you hate america?

How does wanting the federal government to abide by the Constitution make you think I hate America? I despise anyone that thinks I owe them something in life.

 

[Conservative65]

We all do it... Liberals and Conservatives, and Centrists and Independents alike.

What distinguishes Liberals from the rest, I think, is their obnoxious insistence upon getting their own way by any means and at any cost.

And there are even exceptions in that category - there are, indeed, examples of such disingenuous and overbearing behaviors on the part of the others, as well.

It's just that Liberals / Progressives seem to do it sooooo much more frequently than the others, that Lib-Progs end-up 'eating' (suffering) the attaching of the stereotype to them, and end-up 'owning' it - fairly or unfairly - rightly or wrongly.

The most disgusting aspect of this, for me, is the seeming insistence of Lib-Progs that they pretend to know what is good for you, soooo much better than you do yourself.

It's the mindset which says that not only are there some things that the government does better than the individual, but that most things are better done by the government than by the individual - and that they know better than you, which things those are.

Not to mention their willingness-in-a-heartbeat to empty your wallet on behalf of The Beehive Collective, insofar as they can get away with it, by any means, fair or foul.

Most LIb-Progs probably start-out meaning well, and a great many in their ranks are young, and inexperienced, and naive and gullible, and are absolutely certain that they have all the answers...

These younglings have all the energy and fervor and zeal of the New Religious Convert, having found a Substitute God to worship, and a wide-ranging Congregation in which to reside, and they work very hard to advance their 'faith' and to zealously advocate for their 'substitute godhead'; 'missionary work' - secular style - for many younglings.

Lib-Prog ranks also include old-timers and minorities who oftentimes seem not to have done well in life, and who band-together and submit to The Beehive Collective, seeking safety in numbers, rather like a school fish.

Lib-Prog ranks also seem to include a few here and there who have done well in life, and who enjoy the White Man's Guilt or Rich Man's Duty to Humanity, and who lend some additional weight to an oftentimes otherwise lightweight collection of juicy rationalizations and erzatz justifications for their Beehive Collective Mindset.

Because a great many of them believe that they are the one-and-only answer, and that they, above all others, fight for justice and peace and the betterment of Mankind - they oftentimes and nearly unconsciously slip into a "The End Justifies the Means" framework in their dealings with others who do not think like them...

Lib-Progs - once they slip into End-Justifies-the-Means mode - then seem to slowly but surely slip into the role of the Socialist Revolutionary - most recently represented in the 20th by the Communists in various parts of the world.

Of course, we all know how that Grand Experiment turned out.

All the rest of us can do is to take the best of what they offer and incorporate that into a saner overall governance and society, while rejecting the more impractical or idiotic or touchy-feely crap they dream-up, and bitch-slap them back to Reality when they get lose control and become dangerous or - more frequently - just a genuine pain in the ass.

===============

"A man who is not a Liberal in his youth has no heart.

A man who is not a Conservative in his old age has no brains."

- Winston Churchill

( an apocryphal attribution )

As a liberal, I can say with certainty, none of that is true.

Now, here's what you should have said...

Another lying Liberal piece of shit.

Do you support social welfare programs? Do you support Obamacare? Do you support the free community college tuition proposal by Obama? Do you support any big government program that gives the federal government authority to do things for which the Constitution gives no specific delegated authority?

I support all those things.

Then you support imposing Progressive social views on others. You don't need the government to do any of those. All you have to do as a bleeding heart is write a check where YOU see a need. I know you want because that would involve YOU actually having to do with your own money what you demand the rest of us be forced to do. It's not in your nature.

 

[jknowgood]

Progs eat, breath and sleep CONTROL. They HATE anyone who DARE disagree with them.

Here's the basic difference between a prog and a conservative...

... on the topic of the second amendment and the right to own a gun...

... the conservative says, "hey, if you don't want to own a gun, don't own one."

... the prog says, "I don't like guns, so I don't want ANYBODY to be able to own one."

And there you have it, the BASIC, CORE DIFFERENCE between progs and conservatives.

Conservatives want the freedom for people to make their own choices and keep the government out of it, and the progs want to impose their agenda on everyone by the government forcing them whether they like it or not.

We see all it all day, every day.

32,000 gun deaths and 78,000 gun injuries every year. It would be nice if you guys kept the carnage to yourselves, but the rest of us end up paying for it. It is estimated gun violence costs this country 300 billion a year. so, yeah, we should have a say about who gets a gun, and just because some Slave Rapists couldn't properly word a Militia Amendment, is not a good reason for the insanity.

Queers swap around more stds than anyone else. You support that. It cost us all, so go fuck off.

What's the STD transmission rate of same sex married couples?

Don't know, don't really care.