Why do democrats want open borders? let's face facts

[berg80]

The job market isn't paying good wages so people are working two jobs in an attempt to pay for Biden's high inflation tax.

Workers’ Paychecks Are Growing More Quickly Than Prices​

Workers’ Paychecks Are Growing More Quickly Than Prices

Most workers’ wages are growing more quickly than prices, and the economic recovery following the COVID-19 recession has featured historically strong real wage growth.

www.americanprogress.org

Another RWM myth goes in the hopper.

 

[rightwinger]

Wages are not keeping up with the high cost of Bidenomics.

Fauci's & Gate's "pandemic" put millions out of work. Trump's job market was growing as a result of true, market growth. Biden's job market is the result of people getting their previously lost jobs back.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/12/23/trump-biden-us-economy-compared/

Biden’s job market s superior to Trumps which closely followed Obama.
15 million jobs at highest wages in decades.
Trump LOST 3 million jobs

 

[Frankenstein]

Illegal border crossing INCREASED under Donald Trump. When immigrants are allowed to come in legally, through a port of entry, the government has their names, addresses, phone numbers, and can find them.

When Trump closed the legal ports of entry, illegal crossings spiked, and you have NO INFORMATION on anyone coming into the country. Really fucking dumb of Trump to do that.

When Trump stopped allowing people in legally, he gave the coyotes, the smugglers and human traffickers a whole new lease on life. The only way immigrants could cross the border was illegally, and suddenly these guys had all the business they could want.

Trump's Southern Border strategy was an abject failure. He dismantled all immigration services, immigration courts, and the social network set up on the Southern Border to assist immigrants. Instead, people continued to pour across the Southern Border but there was nothing to assist them other than to put them in camps.

Trump's deportation numbers were abyssmally low because there were no courts left to order the deportations.

But keep telling us what a great job Trump did at the Southern Border. 3 years later, you still haven't restored the functioning there.

 

[E. Pluribus]

Biden is the tool of big money who control who gets gets elected by financing their campaign. He then does their bidding by opening the border to provide cheap labor. Biden's job is much like a hooker's. Have no morals or convictions just gimme money and buy my services.

 

[rightwinger]

Biden is the tool of big money who control who gets gets elected by financing their campaign. He then does their bidding by opening the border to provide cheap labor. Biden's job is much like a hooker's. Have no morals or convictions just gimme money and buy my services.

What “big money” has he taken?

 

[Staidhup]

Be honest this is all about votes, replacement of the African American guaranteed voting block. Face it African Americans, white, and Hispanic marginally skilled labor force participants are under extreme pressure to reduce their hourly wages in order to preserve their jobs. Employers only remain in business if their products are competitive in the market place which requires holding the cost of manufacturing and distribution down.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

You do realize that child has to wait 18 years before it can vote?

You do realize the mother and father become instant citizens and can then immediately vote?

Wake up leftards.

 

[rightwinger]

You do realize the mother and father become instant citizens and can then immediately vote?

Wake up leftards.

No they don’t
Where did you get that?

Leftists are Laughing at YOU

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Illegal border crossing INCREASED under Donald Trump. When immigrants are allowed to come in legally, through a port of entry, the government has their names, addresses, phone numbers, and can find them.

When Trump closed the legal ports of entry, illegal crossings spiked, and you have NO INFORMATION on anyone coming into the country. Really fucking dumb of Trump to do that.

When Trump stopped allowing people in legally, he gave the coyotes, the smugglers and human traffickers a whole new lease on life. The only way immigrants could cross the border was illegally, and suddenly these guys had all the business they could want.

Trump's Southern Border strategy was an abject failure. He dismantled all immigration services, immigration courts, and the social network set up on the Southern Border to assist immigrants. Instead, people continued to pour across the Southern Border but there was nothing to assist them other than to put them in camps.

Trump's deportation numbers were abyssmally low because there were no courts left to order the deportations.

But keep telling us what a great job Trump did at the Southern Border. 3 years later, you still haven't restored the functioning there.

Nothing in your post is true. Go back to destroying your country with you’re socialist BS.

 

[Redfish]

Communities and states have the authority to decide

NO, they do not. citizenship is determined by the federal government and only citizens have the right to vote. Why do you want Mexican and Russian and Chinese citizens voting in US elections? Actually we know why, as I stated in the OP.

 

[Redfish]

Biden’s job market s superior to Trumps which closely followed Obama.
15 million jobs at highest wages in decades.
Trump LOST 3 million jobs

yep, we have lots of illegals picking fruit and vegetables in taxifornia. But they don't even pay taxes to the state that employs them. 100% of what they are paid in the US is not taxed in the US or anywhere else. liberalism is a mental disease, you confirm that with every post.

 

[rightwinger]

NO, they do not. citizenship is determined by the federal government and only citizens have the right to vote. Why do you want Mexican and Russian and Chinese citizens voting in US elections? Actually we know why, as I stated in the OP.

Not in the Constitution
What is in there is states get to make the rules

I want people who live here, pay taxes and send their kids to schools to be able to vote on who runs those schools

 

[Redfish]

Not in the Constitution
What is in there is states get to make the rules

I want people who live here, pay taxes and send their kids to schools to be able to vote on who runs those schools

but they don't pay taxes, sales taxes maybe for the food the buy at the bodega, but no state or federal income taxes. They are using our schools and medical facilities that YOU and I are paying for. Why don't you just send money to mexican schools and hospitals? why should someone who is here illegally get free schools and medical care?

 

[Redfish]

"socialist woke agenda", I see you left out other bad names like communist, Marxist, devil worshippers and Mormons.

if the shoe fits--------------------------------

 

[Redfish]

What “big money” has he taken?

millions from China, Russia, Ukraine, and others. Funneled thru many fake corporations into the Biden bank accounts. What exactly did Hunter do for the UKrainian gas company that was worth 20K per month? Who paid 500K for each of his crappy paintings? Are you as naive as your posts imply?

 

[Curried Goats]

millions from China, Russia, Ukraine, and others. Funneled thru many fake corporations into the Biden bank accounts. What exactly did Hunter do for the UKrainian gas company that was worth 20K per month? Who paid 500K for each of his crappy paintings? Are you as naive as your posts imply?

Skeptism over your unproven claims of corruption by Joe Biden isn't naivete. I'm sure Hunter got paid because his last name was Biden and the owners of that company thought his name would open some doors for them. Whether they did or not and whether or not that amounts to corruption is for you to prove.

 

[rightwinger]

millions from China, Russia, Ukraine, and others. Funneled thru many fake corporations into the Biden bank accounts. What exactly did Hunter do for the UKrainian gas company that was worth 20K per month? Who paid 500K for each of his crappy paintings? Are you as naive as your posts imply?

He has??????

Then why after a year of Republicans pouring over his bank records haven’t they found a cent?

Hunters financial dealings are none of Congresses business

 

[Rigby5]

OK, please read all the way before responding

congressional districts are determined by population counts from the census, illegals are counted in the census. So the more illegals allowed in the country the more congressional districts are created. The dems think that the majority of illegals will vote dem because dem policies allowed them to illegally enter our country. The whole open border bullshit is being done to create more democrat congressional districts and allow democrats to control the house of representatives. That is all this has ever been about. Dems are not worried about the plight of illegals or their welfare. They are only concerned with increasing their power to dictate their socialist woke agenda to the entire country. They are willing to let american citizens be raped and murdered in order to increase their power. They must be stopped and right now voting for Trump is the only way to stop them.

I don't think it works that way.
It is true illegals are counted in the census so will cause redistricting changes.
But the number of districts remains the same.
The same number of districts are just remapped every 10 years.
Some states gain while others lose.

The Impact of Legal and Illegal Immigration on the Apportionment of Seats in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2020
{...
Under current policy all persons — not just citizens — are included in the population count when apportioning seats to states in the U.S. House of Representatives and for votes in the Electoral College, which is based on House seats. Although we focus on the next census in 2020, the impact of immigration has been building for decades as the number of people settling in the country has increased dramatically. This report examines the cumulative impact of immigration, both legal and illegal, on the apportionment of House seats; this is not an analysis of the impact of immigration only since the previous census. Apportionment is a zero-sum system; by adding more population to some states rather than others, immigration will continue to significantly redistribute political power in Washington.

Among the findings:

• The 2020 census will show that the presence of all immigrants (naturalized citizens, legal residents, and illegal aliens) and their U.S.-born minor children is responsible for a shift of 26 House seats. This is the cumulative impact of immigration, not the change from the previous census.
• To put this number in perspective, changing the party of 21 members of the current Congress would flip the majority in the U.S. House. The 26 seats represent the effect of all immigrants and their children 17 years of age and younger, and is not the change from one census to another.
• Ohio will have three fewer seats in 2020 than it otherwise would have had but for the presence of all immigrants and their minor children in other states. Michigan and Pennsylvania will have two fewer; and Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, West Virginia, and Wisconsin will each have one fewer seat. California will have 11 more seats in 2020 than it otherwise would have; New York and Texas will have four more seats each; Florida will have three more seats; New Jersey will have two more seats; and Illinois and Massachusetts will each have one additional seat.
• Of the 26 seats that will be lost, 24 are from states that voted for Donald Trump in 2016. Of states that will gain House seats because of immigration, 19 seats will go to the solidly Democratic states of California, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and Illinois. Texas is the only solidly Republican state that gains, while Florida is a swing state.
• Doing the same calculation, but counting only immigrants themselves (naturalized citizens, legal permanent residents, guestworkers, foreign students and illegal aliens), but not their U.S.-born minor children, will redistribute 18 seats in the House in 2020. Ohio will have two fewer seats than it otherwise would have had but for the presence of immigrants in other states. Alabama, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Utah, and West Virginia will each have one fewer seat. California will have seven more seats in 2020 than it otherwise would. New York and Florida will have three more each; Texas and New Jersey will have two more seats; and Illinois will have one more seat.

...}

 

[rightwinger]

but they don't pay taxes, sales taxes maybe for the food the buy at the bodega, but no state or federal income taxes. They are using our schools and medical facilities that YOU and I are paying for. Why don't you just send money to mexican schools and hospitals? why should someone who is here illegally get free schools and medical care?

I happen to agree with you.

I think these workers should be paid a fair wage, benefits and pay taxes on those wages.
Blame the employers that keep them off the books

 

[Rigby5]

Skeptism over your unproven claims of corruption by Joe Biden isn't naivete. I'm sure Hunter got paid because his last name was Biden and the owners of that company thought his name would open some doors for them. Whether they did or not and whether or not that amounts to corruption is for you to prove.

Sorry, but that is wrong.
When large sums of money change hands, if there is no stated legal purpose, then the default is that it was illegal and it is those who got the money with the burden of proof.

And we know it was NOT some vague presidential perk we are talking about.
We know that the military of the Ukraine committed an illegal coup in 2014, and the US started giving them hundreds of billions in foreign aid in cash and weapons.
Obviously this coup was bribed, as the US has done dozens of times.

Most likely, the salary Hunter was paid was illegal kickbacks from all this US money being poured into the Ukraine military.