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Her amendment allowed a person to sign an affidavit to verify their identity. Which is all your dear old Mother had to do to vote.
Pretty much the same thing (sign an affidavit) that would allow homeless people to vote.
Oh, the horror ....
In Texas homeless people do not need to live in a shelter to register to vote, they can be living on the street. No mailing address is required.
I believe Texas got that part right.
I don't have any problems with voter IDs - photo or otherwise. But I think they should be free and easily obtainable for all classes of citizens - even the homeless.
They are absolutely free here in Texas and I assume the same is in every state that requires them.
Seriously how many people do you know personally that does not have some form of photo ID?
by absolutely free, I suppose you mean that a Texas official and a photographer come to the applicant's home, at state expense, to take the picture and fill out the forms, additionally waiving the cost for obtaining duplicate birth certificates, marriage certificates, divorce certificates, name changes, and other necessary info.
They are absolutely free here in Texas and I assume the same is in every state that requires them.
You still have to spend time and expense to go and get one.
And are they free like the roads? Ask me to tell you about a crackhead and free roads some time. You sound just like him.
Those "free" IDs cost taxpayer dollars, dipshit.
Seriously how many people do you know personally that does not have some form of photo ID?
I bet if you lived in a minority community, you would know a lot of them. If you lived in a senior community, you probably would know quite a few, too.
Just because you personally don't know any people who don't have a valid Voter ID means jack shit.
There are elderly citizens who do not have a current ID. I provided an example of a WWII veteran who was not allowed to vote because his VA card was not good enough, and he did not have any other current ID.
Hey, why don't you post some more examples of voter fraud in states that have Voter ID? BWA-HA-HA-HA!
I'm pointing out that ypu falsly stated absolutely free, which is why it is a poll tax.Pretty much the same thing (sign an affidavit) that would allow homeless people to vote.
Oh, the horror ....
In Texas homeless people do not need to live in a shelter to register to vote, they can be living on the street. No mailing address is required.
I believe Texas got that part right.
I don't have any problems with voter IDs - photo or otherwise. But I think they should be free and easily obtainable for all classes of citizens - even the homeless.
They are absolutely free here in Texas and I assume the same is in every state that requires them.
Seriously how many people do you know personally that does not have some form of photo ID?
by absolutely free, I suppose you mean that a Texas official and a photographer come to the applicant's home, at state expense, to take the picture and fill out the forms, additionally waiving the cost for obtaining duplicate birth certificates, marriage certificates, divorce certificates, name changes, and other necessary info.
Wow you must think minorities are not only poor but totally helpless too.
Allow me to repeat myself - that is not the only way to verify voting qualifications. And since there are other - less restrictive ways - then disqualifying a person from voting because they are homeless is not a legitimate restriction on voting rights.
For example a person can register in one, and only one, precinct and only be allowed to vote in the precinct they register in.
Homeless man: "I usually sleep under the bridge at 57th and 14th streets.
Election official: "Ok, that's precinct 98. That is your voting precinct and you'll vote at the King Community Center on 58th. You know where that is? Now, we're going to print your voter registration/voter ID (with photo). It will take about 15 minutes."
Too many people have fought and died to secure the right to vote for all Americans for us to just piss that away for no legitimate reason.
I disagree. I think a person should EARN the right to vote. Would I make "have a home" a requirement? No, but for sure most homeless wouldn't meet my requirements.
Regurgitating liberal talking points gets you no mileage here.1) I think that forcing people to produce a picture ID will NOT eliminate voter fraud or even curtail it.
2) It will mostly serve to reduce the amount of voters who would normally vote democrat, thus giving me great pause as to the actual motivations central to this issue.
3) I believe that most dems have taken up this issue because they understand that it is being used as a tool by the right to shrink the dem voter base.
BTW, official ID is readily available to anyone who wishes to obtain it. And they can do so free of charge.1) I think that forcing people to produce a picture ID will NOT eliminate voter fraud or even curtail it.
2) It will mostly serve to reduce the amount of voters who would normally vote democrat, thus giving me great pause as to the actual motivations central to this issue.
3) I believe that most dems have taken up this issue because they understand that it is being used as a tool by the right to shrink the dem voter base.
And there goes your credibility right through the open window. You may now stand down.I, myself, think that we should have open borders.
Yes well like everything in life, you do have to put forth some effort.
Really? Voter ID is made by elves for free?BTW, official ID is readily available to anyone who wishes to obtain it. And they can do so free of charge.1) I think that forcing people to produce a picture ID will NOT eliminate voter fraud or even curtail it.
2) It will mostly serve to reduce the amount of voters who would normally vote democrat, thus giving me great pause as to the actual motivations central to this issue.
3) I believe that most dems have taken up this issue because they understand that it is being used as a tool by the right to shrink the dem voter base.
Where's the problem?
Hardly the point. Obviously the potential for voter fraud in India is next to nil.OK, how much voter fraud does India have?
Now, how about the US?
Nope. You can go now.You're clearly too stupid to pay further attention too. I just can't believe anyone allows you to drive a vehicle.
Any thoughts on the OP or just more, infintile, off-topic, snarky retorts?
That's YOUR opinion."Why Do Democrats Oppose Voter ID?"
Because there's no objective, documented evidence that voter fraud by identity exists to the extent that the outcome of any election was changed.
Because voters provide identification when they register to vote, where to require voters to 'prove' who they are at every election absent evidence that a given voter is indeed attempting to commit fraud, assumes the voter is 'guilty' and must prove himself innocent. That's not how our legal system works.
And because of the above, voter ID laws manifest an undue burden to the fundamental right to vote, as the state has failed to meet its requirement to justify placing restrictions on that right, rendering voter ID laws invalid and un-Constitutional.
I'm pointing out that ypu falsly stated absolutely free, which is why it is a poll tax.In Texas homeless people do not need to live in a shelter to register to vote, they can be living on the street. No mailing address is required.
I believe Texas got that part right.
I don't have any problems with voter IDs - photo or otherwise. But I think they should be free and easily obtainable for all classes of citizens - even the homeless.
They are absolutely free here in Texas and I assume the same is in every state that requires them.
Seriously how many people do you know personally that does not have some form of photo ID?
by absolutely free, I suppose you mean that a Texas official and a photographer come to the applicant's home, at state expense, to take the picture and fill out the forms, additionally waiving the cost for obtaining duplicate birth certificates, marriage certificates, divorce certificates, name changes, and other necessary info.
Wow you must think minorities are not only poor but totally helpless too.
Yes well like everything in life, you do have to put forth some effort.
Your rights are inalienable. You do not have to earn them. If you want to infringe on them, you must show evidence it is necessary to do so. In this, you Voter ID tards have not only utterly failed, you have actually provided proof Voter ID is ineffective.
Continuing to regurgitate lib talking points is even less fruitful.1) I think that forcing people to produce a picture ID will NOT eliminate voter fraud or even curtail it.
2) It will mostly serve to reduce the amount of voters who would normally vote democrat, thus giving me great pause as to the actual motivations central to this issue.
3) I believe that most dems have taken up this issue because they understand that it is being used as a tool by the right to shrink the dem voter base.
It will mostly serve to reduce the amount of voters who would normally vote democrat,
How will it do that?
Thank you for the question.
People who don't drive (like poor people) generally don't even have an ID.
Blacks and Hispanics, other minorities and disabled or homeless people would not be permitted to vote.
Is obtaining a driver's license then a poll tax?I'm pointing out that ypu falsly stated absolutely free, which is why it is a poll tax.In Texas homeless people do not need to live in a shelter to register to vote, they can be living on the street. No mailing address is required.
I believe Texas got that part right.
I don't have any problems with voter IDs - photo or otherwise. But I think they should be free and easily obtainable for all classes of citizens - even the homeless.
They are absolutely free here in Texas and I assume the same is in every state that requires them.
Seriously how many people do you know personally that does not have some form of photo ID?
by absolutely free, I suppose you mean that a Texas official and a photographer come to the applicant's home, at state expense, to take the picture and fill out the forms, additionally waiving the cost for obtaining duplicate birth certificates, marriage certificates, divorce certificates, name changes, and other necessary info.
Wow you must think minorities are not only poor but totally helpless too.
Interesting point. However, the right to vote is not absolute. This is the point on which you libs hang your argument. That in and of itself is a FAILYes well like everything in life, you do have to put forth some effort.
Your rights are inalienable. You do not have to earn them. If you want to infringe on them, you must show evidence it is necessary to do so. In this, you Voter ID tards have not only utterly failed, you have actually provided proof Voter ID is ineffective.
ONE is too many. Get it, genius?1) I think that forcing people to produce a picture ID will NOT eliminate voter fraud or even curtail it.
2) It will mostly serve to reduce the amount of voters who would normally vote democrat, thus giving me great pause as to the actual motivations central to this issue.
3) I believe that most dems have taken up this issue because they understand that it is being used as a tool by the right to shrink the dem voter base.
It will mostly serve to reduce the amount of voters who would normally vote democrat,
How will it do that?
Because you'll actually have to be alive to vote.
So, how many "dead people" have actually voted???