Why do Conservatives on the USMB keep insisting Confederates are Liberals????

[Little-Acorn]

Why do Conservatives on the USMB keep insisting Confederates are Liberals????

Can someone explain that to me? How can they be members of this board and know absolutely nothing about American history? Especially after all the discussion?

This was explained to little rdean many times in past threads. Looks like enough time has passed since then, that he feels he can reopen the subject and pretend ignorance again, and try to fool people into believing it hasn't been explained.

When liberals can't justify their positions on current issues, they just go back and dig up old ones, and hope nobody remembers they already lost the argument on those, too.

Funniest part of today's thread, is where little rdean tries to claim that others don't know American history.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You have to understand what 'conservatism' has become in the last 20-25 years. It is led by Faux News and Fish Dumbaugh. These two perpetuate every day big and little lies.

This is what modern conservatism is, the attempt to tell lies over and over and try to make them not only become truth but dogma.

The modern conservative movement is attempting to make lies a foundation to build a movement on. To build their world view on falsehood. And to recruit their base to accept and promote these lies as fact beyond reproach.

But lies are lies. Doesn't matter how many times you tell it. They only way for this type of ideology based on whisps of foul air to succeed is if the party putting forth the big lie to hold all power and all media.

Unfortunately in America they have only managaed to capture maybe 26% of the population. And it hasn't gone beyond that regardless of the money they spend. And this pisses of the likes of the Koch brothers no end. That they can't fool all of the people all of the time.

So you blow all that horse shit out of your mouth and don't give a single supporting fact at all?

lol, libtards are funny.

 

[Obiwan]

Rdean

Even MSNBC admits LBJ was racist, and they are liberal!!!!

Lyndon Johnson was a civil rights hero. But also a racist. MSNBC

 

[JimBowie1958]

Can someone explain that to me? How can they be members of this board and know absolutely nothing about American history? Especially after all the discussion?

They want to embrace all that is good as conservative.

Notice how they claim that Hitler was a liberal, JFK was a conservative, the Founding Fathers were conservatives, etc.

They're in denial of course.

No, there is no denial, though I have never seen anyone claim Hitler was a liberal, no. Hitler was a SOCIALIST which is very different than classic liberalism.

The thing that makes the topic confusing for simpletons like yourself is that socialists in the USA have hijacked the word 'liberal' and have twisted it to mean 'socialist' especially after this cock-sucking POTUS.

 

[OKTexas]

You have to understand what 'conservatism' has become in the last 20-25 years. It is led by Faux News and Fish Dumbaugh. These two perpetuate every day big and little lies.

This is what modern conservatism is, the attempt to tell lies over and over and try to make them not only become truth but dogma.

The modern conservative movement is attempting to make lies a foundation to build a movement on. To build their world view on falsehood. And to recruit their base to accept and promote these lies as fact beyond reproach.

But lies are lies. Doesn't matter how many times you tell it. They only way for this type of ideology based on whisps of foul air to succeed is if the party putting forth the big lie to hold all power and all media.

Unfortunately in America they have only managaed to capture maybe 26% of the population. And it hasn't gone beyond that regardless of the money they spend. And this pisses of the likes of the Koch brothers no end. That they can't fool all of the people all of the time.

Projecting much?

 

[tinydancer]

You have to understand what 'conservatism' has become in the last 20-25 years. It is led by Faux News and Fish Dumbaugh. These two perpetuate every day big and little lies.

This is what modern conservatism is, the attempt to tell lies over and over and try to make them not only become truth but dogma.

The modern conservative movement is attempting to make lies a foundation to build a movement on. To build their world view on falsehood. And to recruit their base to accept and promote these lies as fact beyond reproach.

But lies are lies. Doesn't matter how many times you tell it. They only way for this type of ideology based on whisps of foul air to succeed is if the party putting forth the big lie to hold all power and all media.

Unfortunately in America they have only managaed to capture maybe 26% of the population. And it hasn't gone beyond that regardless of the money they spend. And this pisses of the likes of the Koch brothers no end. That they can't fool all of the people all of the time.

What part of Republicans kicked the shit out of the Democrats in the mid terms did you miss?

What part of they pulled off historic wins in the midterms did you miss fool?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Because on one hand they point out the destructive nature of the negro but wont admit that jim crow and segregation was necessary. They're a bunch of one foot in the game morons that think they can possibly encourage negroes to stop what they're doing and join the republican party.

Hahaha.

Idiocy.

There's no peace with the ******* negro or all these third world immigrates coming here. Just the end of the future we should of gave to our children.

 

[Little-Acorn]

I have never seen anyone claim Hitler was a liberal, no. Hitler was a SOCIALIST which is very different than classic liberalism.

Today's liberals are also very different from classical liberalism.

It's true that socialists don't conform to the "classical" definition of "liberal", which means "supporting and promoting liberty". Socialists do very much the opposite, using government to force people to do things very much outside the purview of good, small government. Our modern liberals do much the same thing.

As you point out, Hitler was very similar to today's liberals in his use of massive government to oppress and coerce his countrymen. Neither is "liberal" in the classical sense... but Hitler would feel right at home among today's liberals. Except for his anti-Semitism and his tendencies to massacre Jews - traits which our modern liberals do not share.

And Hitler is about as far from "conservative" as you can get.

 

[Skylar]

You have to understand what 'conservatism' has become in the last 20-25 years. It is led by Faux News and Fish Dumbaugh. These two perpetuate every day big and little lies.

This is what modern conservatism is, the attempt to tell lies over and over and try to make them not only become truth but dogma.

The modern conservative movement is attempting to make lies a foundation to build a movement on. To build their world view on falsehood. And to recruit their base to accept and promote these lies as fact beyond reproach.

But lies are lies. Doesn't matter how many times you tell it. They only way for this type of ideology based on whisps of foul air to succeed is if the party putting forth the big lie to hold all power and all media.

Unfortunately in America they have only managaed to capture maybe 26% of the population. And it hasn't gone beyond that regardless of the money they spend. And this pisses of the likes of the Koch brothers no end. That they can't fool all of the people all of the time.

What part of Republicans kicked the shit out of the Democrats in the mid terms did you miss?

What part of they pulled off historic wins in the midterms did you miss fool?

You....you do realize that more people voted for democratic candidates for the House than voted for republicans candidates.....by about a million votes. And more people voted for democratic candidates for Senate than voted for republican senate candidates.....by about 5 million.

Right?

You're crowing for gerrymandering. Not public support. Even in mid term elections where democrats traditionally do the worst, they still got more people to vote for their Congressional candidates than republicans did.

 

[Skylar]

I have never seen anyone claim Hitler was a liberal, no. Hitler was a SOCIALIST which is very different than classic liberalism.

Today's liberals are also very different from classical liberalism.

What's your point? The meaning of the term 'liberal' has changed with the times.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

You have to understand what 'conservatism' has become in the last 20-25 years. It is led by Faux News and Fish Dumbaugh. These two perpetuate every day big and little lies.

This is what modern conservatism is, the attempt to tell lies over and over and try to make them not only become truth but dogma.

The modern conservative movement is attempting to make lies a foundation to build a movement on. To build their world view on falsehood. And to recruit their base to accept and promote these lies as fact beyond reproach.

But lies are lies. Doesn't matter how many times you tell it. They only way for this type of ideology based on whisps of foul air to succeed is if the party putting forth the big lie to hold all power and all media.

Unfortunately in America they have only managaed to capture maybe 26% of the population. And it hasn't gone beyond that regardless of the money they spend. And this pisses of the likes of the Koch brothers no end. That they can't fool all of the people all of the time.

What part of Republicans kicked the shit out of the Democrats in the mid terms did you miss?

What part of they pulled off historic wins in the midterms did you miss fool?

You....you do realize that more people voted for democratic candidates for the House than voted for republicans candidates.....by about a million votes. And more people voted for democratic candidates for Senate than voted for republican senate candidates.....by about 5 million.

Right?

You're crowing for gerrymandering. Not public support. Even in mid term elections where democrats traditionally do the worst, they still got more people to vote for their Congressional candidates than republicans did.

While that may be true...I guess the question is....so what ?

There are places where the GOP choses not compete.

But where they do, they win.

Didn't they knock off a Colorado Senator this last go-around ?

 

[ScienceRocks]

I just don't get how some republicans here can agree with me that negroes are committing out of control violence in our cities and not agree that the southern Democrat may of had a point in some their policies.

Why should whites have to live with it?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

I have never seen anyone claim Hitler was a liberal, no. Hitler was a SOCIALIST which is very different than classic liberalism.

Today's liberals are also very different from classical liberalism.

What's your point? The meaning of the term 'liberal' has changed with the times.

Which is why it is important that such meanings be established up front.

 

[Skylar]

Can someone explain that to me? How can they be members of this board and know absolutely nothing about American history? Especially after all the discussion?

They want to embrace all that is good as conservative.

Notice how they claim that Hitler was a liberal, JFK was a conservative, the Founding Fathers were conservatives, etc.

They're in denial of course.

No, there is no denial, though I have never seen anyone claim Hitler was a liberal, no. Hitler was a SOCIALIST which is very different than classic liberalism.

The thing that makes the topic confusing for simpletons like yourself is that socialists in the USA have hijacked the word 'liberal' and have twisted it to mean 'socialist' especially after this cock-sucking POTUS.

'National Socialism' and actual socialism have very little if anything to do with each other.

 

[Skylar]

I have never seen anyone claim Hitler was a liberal, no. Hitler was a SOCIALIST which is very different than classic liberalism.

Today's liberals are also very different from classical liberalism.

What's your point? The meaning of the term 'liberal' has changed with the times.

Which is why it is important that such meanings be established up front.

You're hung up on the difference. No one really gives a shit. Lets establish that up front.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

I have never seen anyone claim Hitler was a liberal, no. Hitler was a SOCIALIST which is very different than classic liberalism.

Today's liberals are also very different from classical liberalism.

What's your point? The meaning of the term 'liberal' has changed with the times.

Which is why it is important that such meanings be established up front.

You're hung up on the difference. No one really gives a shit. Lets establish that up front.

So what are you arguing about ? Or for ?

Do we have to guess at that ?

 

[OKTexas]

You have to understand what 'conservatism' has become in the last 20-25 years. It is led by Faux News and Fish Dumbaugh. These two perpetuate every day big and little lies.

This is what modern conservatism is, the attempt to tell lies over and over and try to make them not only become truth but dogma.

The modern conservative movement is attempting to make lies a foundation to build a movement on. To build their world view on falsehood. And to recruit their base to accept and promote these lies as fact beyond reproach.

But lies are lies. Doesn't matter how many times you tell it. They only way for this type of ideology based on whisps of foul air to succeed is if the party putting forth the big lie to hold all power and all media.

Unfortunately in America they have only managaed to capture maybe 26% of the population. And it hasn't gone beyond that regardless of the money they spend. And this pisses of the likes of the Koch brothers no end. That they can't fool all of the people all of the time.

What part of Republicans kicked the shit out of the Democrats in the mid terms did you miss?

What part of they pulled off historic wins in the midterms did you miss fool?

You....you do realize that more people voted for democratic candidates for the House than voted for republicans candidates.....by about a million votes. And more people voted for democratic candidates for Senate than voted for republican senate candidates.....by about 5 million.

Right?

You're crowing for gerrymandering. Not public support. Even in mid term elections where democrats traditionally do the worst, they still got more people to vote for their Congressional candidates than republicans did.

Yet you find yourself in the minority in both houses.

 

[Skylar]

You have to understand what 'conservatism' has become in the last 20-25 years. It is led by Faux News and Fish Dumbaugh. These two perpetuate every day big and little lies.

This is what modern conservatism is, the attempt to tell lies over and over and try to make them not only become truth but dogma.

The modern conservative movement is attempting to make lies a foundation to build a movement on. To build their world view on falsehood. And to recruit their base to accept and promote these lies as fact beyond reproach.

But lies are lies. Doesn't matter how many times you tell it. They only way for this type of ideology based on whisps of foul air to succeed is if the party putting forth the big lie to hold all power and all media.

Unfortunately in America they have only managaed to capture maybe 26% of the population. And it hasn't gone beyond that regardless of the money they spend. And this pisses of the likes of the Koch brothers no end. That they can't fool all of the people all of the time.

What part of Republicans kicked the shit out of the Democrats in the mid terms did you miss?

What part of they pulled off historic wins in the midterms did you miss fool?

You....you do realize that more people voted for democratic candidates for the House than voted for republicans candidates.....by about a million votes. And more people voted for democratic candidates for Senate than voted for republican senate candidates.....by about 5 million.

Right?

You're crowing for gerrymandering. Not public support. Even in mid term elections where democrats traditionally do the worst, they still got more people to vote for their Congressional candidates than republicans did.

Yet you find yourself in the minority in both houses.

Lets have a hip hip for gerrymandering!

Again, even when we're talking about a mid-term year.....democrats still get more votes than republicans.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

You have to understand what 'conservatism' has become in the last 20-25 years. It is led by Faux News and Fish Dumbaugh. These two perpetuate every day big and little lies.

This is what modern conservatism is, the attempt to tell lies over and over and try to make them not only become truth but dogma.

The modern conservative movement is attempting to make lies a foundation to build a movement on. To build their world view on falsehood. And to recruit their base to accept and promote these lies as fact beyond reproach.

But lies are lies. Doesn't matter how many times you tell it. They only way for this type of ideology based on whisps of foul air to succeed is if the party putting forth the big lie to hold all power and all media.

Unfortunately in America they have only managaed to capture maybe 26% of the population. And it hasn't gone beyond that regardless of the money they spend. And this pisses of the likes of the Koch brothers no end. That they can't fool all of the people all of the time.

What part of Republicans kicked the shit out of the Democrats in the mid terms did you miss?

What part of they pulled off historic wins in the midterms did you miss fool?

You....you do realize that more people voted for democratic candidates for the House than voted for republicans candidates.....by about a million votes. And more people voted for democratic candidates for Senate than voted for republican senate candidates.....by about 5 million.

Right?

You're crowing for gerrymandering. Not public support. Even in mid term elections where democrats traditionally do the worst, they still got more people to vote for their Congressional candidates than republicans did.

Yet you find yourself in the minority in both houses.

Lets have a hip hip for gerrymandering!

Again, even when we're talking about a mid-term year.....democrats still get more votes than republicans.

We've already established that is true.

I still ask....so what ?

It's not the number, but how they are distributed.

The GOP had more votes where it counted. Correct ?

 

[Skylar]

I have never seen anyone claim Hitler was a liberal, no. Hitler was a SOCIALIST which is very different than classic liberalism.

Today's liberals are also very different from classical liberalism.

What's your point? The meaning of the term 'liberal' has changed with the times.

Which is why it is important that such meanings be established up front.

You're hung up on the difference. No one really gives a shit. Lets establish that up front.

So what are you arguing about ? Or for ?

Do we have to guess at that ?

That your argument has no point as it has no relevance to the world we live in. As the distinction you're hung up on 1) doesn't matter 2) most folks don't give a shit.

The meanings of words change over time. Faggots used to be sticks. Awful used to mean something that inspired awe. And gay was a word most commonly describing someone who was happy.

Not anymore. Nor does liberal mean what it used to. And?