Why do all liberal ideas result in more poverty?

[Jitss617]

Farmers actually CREATE something tangible, and necessary for human life. Do you want to not have food available? Maybe we should just throw more money away to more social programs in order to social engineer the society? How about we create an inner city plantation for Blacks? Oh wait.

We can just buy imported stuff. We don’t need to pay 3 times for the same food.

We’re already paying for it with our taxes through subsidies.

And we are paying again in the form of your blob’s bail out.

Why do we have to buy it again at the store.?

Move out,, trump will protect Americans

 

[SSDD]

Hmmmm.....

I read recently where they were putting up 300 more wind turbines over in southern California the other day.

With Subsidies ??

Clearly the company putting them up is making money off of their installation.

From Subsidies ??

Clearly whomever services them is making money.

Off Subsidies ??

Clearly the land owners are making money.

Because Of Subsidies ??

I doubt any of them are impoverished.

Because Of All The Subsidies ??

What Happened To Cries Of
Corporate Welfare !!
....??

Only around 50 billion a year in oil subsidies..

Oil doesn't get subsidies...they get tax provisions, but not subsidies...two very different things if you know anything at all about the topic...if you don't, it is very easy to be duped by people calling tax breaks subsidies...

if the tax break is for the oil industry or fossil fuel industry and NOT AVAILABLE for other industries, it is a subsidy, silly one...

A tax break is simply taking less of the money that a business is already earning from the sale of its product....the catch is that you have to already be in business and earning money in order for the government to take less of your money.

Are there any green power stations that are actually earning money that the government could tax? Which ones? How much did they earn? Where did the money come from that got them started?

 

[SSDD]

Hmmmm.....

I read recently where they were putting up 300 more wind turbines over in southern California the other day.

With Subsidies ??

Clearly the company putting them up is making money off of their installation.

From Subsidies ??

Clearly whomever services them is making money.

Off Subsidies ??

Clearly the land owners are making money.

Because Of Subsidies ??

I doubt any of them are impoverished.

Because Of All The Subsidies ??

What Happened To Cries Of
Corporate Welfare !!
....??

Only around 50 billion a year in oil subsidies..

Oil doesn't get subsidies...they get tax provisions, but not subsidies...two very different things if you know anything at all about the topic...if you don't, it is very easy to be duped by people calling tax breaks subsidies...

if the tax break is for the oil industry or fossil fuel industry and NOT AVAILABLE for other industries, it is a subsidy, silly one...

here is a link that explains a great deal on the history of the fossil fuel and nuclear subsidies/tax credits etc

Long History Of U.S. Energy Subsidies | December 19, 2011 Issue - Vol. 89 Issue 51 | Chemical & Engineering News

Once again...being ignorant on the topic allows you to be easily duped...your article describes tax breaks...not subsidies...and simply calls them subsides in order to support a false narrative. Once again...a business must already be earning money in order to get a tax break...subsidies are hand outs...money given to start a business...charity...and again, that is why so many fail..

 

[candycorn]

Farmers actually CREATE something tangible, and necessary for human life. Do you want to not have food available? Maybe we should just throw more money away to more social programs in order to social engineer the society? How about we create an inner city plantation for Blacks? Oh wait.

We can just buy imported stuff. We don’t need to pay 3 times for the same food.

We’re already paying for it with our taxes through subsidies.

And we are paying again in the form of your blob’s bail out.

Why do we have to buy it again at the store.?

Move out,, trump will protect Americans

Paying a farmer 3 times for the same ear of corn is rather stupid.
Which is probably the sole reason Trumpers see no problem in doing it.

 

[Moonglow]

With Subsidies ??
From Subsidies ??
Off Subsidies ??
Because Of Subsidies ??
Because Of All The Subsidies ??

What Happened To Cries Of
Corporate Welfare !!
....??

Only around 50 billion a year in oil subsidies..

Oil doesn't get subsidies...they get tax provisions, but not subsidies...two very different things if you know anything at all about the topic...if you don't, it is very easy to be duped by people calling tax breaks subsidies...

if the tax break is for the oil industry or fossil fuel industry and NOT AVAILABLE for other industries, it is a subsidy, silly one...

here is a link that explains a great deal on the history of the fossil fuel and nuclear subsidies/tax credits etc

Long History Of U.S. Energy Subsidies | December 19, 2011 Issue - Vol. 89 Issue 51 | Chemical & Engineering News

Once again...being ignorant on the topic allows you to be easily duped...your article describes tax breaks...not subsidies...and simply calls them subsides in order to support a false narrative. Once again...a business must already be earning money in order to get a tax break...subsidies are hand outs...money given to start a business...charity...and again, that is why so many fail..

My chart showed a 1.2 billion direct payment sliver for subsidies..

 

[Oddball]

It seems that when we actually take a look at what happens to real people who find themselves on a grid that his heavy with renewables, we see that energy costs increase, household poverty risks increase, and household incomes decline. Why do all liberal ideas result in more poverty? Why can they not see that their nutty ideas invariably hurt the people who can least afford their madness?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360544218325738

Energy that produces CO2, on the other hand lets to economic prosperity and industrialization.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...al_development_and_energy_policy_perspectives

reposted from NoTricksZone: "Not here to worship what is known, but to question it" – Jacob Bronowski. Climate and energy news from Germany in English – by Pierre L. Gosselin

Because, as Sandy Occasional-Coherence put it:

“There's [sic] a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right.”

It's a moral issue, so you peons need to sit down, STFU and do as your betters demand.

 

[Pilot1]

We need a stable food source. I hate government subsidies and intervention with things like Ethanol, which is a huge waste the Environmental Lobby (Democrats) pushed. However, keeping farms going is a national necessity and security issue. What if we imported all of our food (we import a lot already) and countries said NO MORE! We would starve.

 

[Jitss617]

Farmers actually CREATE something tangible, and necessary for human life. Do you want to not have food available? Maybe we should just throw more money away to more social programs in order to social engineer the society? How about we create an inner city plantation for Blacks? Oh wait.

We can just buy imported stuff. We don’t need to pay 3 times for the same food.

We’re already paying for it with our taxes through subsidies.

And we are paying again in the form of your blob’s bail out.

Why do we have to buy it again at the store.?

Move out,, trump will protect Americans

Paying a farmer 3 times for the same ear of corn is rather stupid.
Which is probably the sole reason Trumpers see no problem in doing it.

Picking corn is not the jobs Americans are worried about it’s the cooks, hotel jobs, starting businesses in democrat city’s that control production, production jobs that pay pretty well. These jobs belong to Americans and immigrants that SHARE our values and can assimilate,, Bulgarians, Albanians, etc... NOT Latinos or hatian.

 

[candycorn]

Farmers actually CREATE something tangible, and necessary for human life. Do you want to not have food available? Maybe we should just throw more money away to more social programs in order to social engineer the society? How about we create an inner city plantation for Blacks? Oh wait.

We can just buy imported stuff. We don’t need to pay 3 times for the same food.

We’re already paying for it with our taxes through subsidies.

And we are paying again in the form of your blob’s bail out.

Why do we have to buy it again at the store.?

Move out,, trump will protect Americans

Paying a farmer 3 times for the same ear of corn is rather stupid.
Which is probably the sole reason Trumpers see no problem in doing it.

Picking corn is not the jobs Americans are worried about it’s the cooks, hotel jobs, starting businesses in democrat city’s that control production, production jobs that pay pretty well. These jobs belong to Americans and immigrants that SHARE our values and can assimilate,, Bulgarians, Albanians, etc... NOT Latinos or hatian.

Paying 3 times for the same ear of corn has nothing to do with cooks, hotel jobs, etc…

Why are Conservatives okay with it? Oh yeah, because it’s politically beneficial.

Why shouldn’t we subsidize the movie industry?

 

[candycorn]

We need a stable food source. I hate government subsidies and intervention with things like Ethanol, which is a huge waste the Environmental Lobby (Democrats) pushed. However, keeping farms going is a national necessity and security issue. What if we imported all of our food (we import a lot already) and countries said NO MORE! We would starve.

Apparently you don’t hate it at all. Otherwise you’d be angry about subsidizing farmers, bailing farmers out, and then having to buy their food after you’ve paid them twice.

Instead, since your big orange blob is the one telling you to do it, you couldn’t be happier to pay 3 times.

It’s all about politics…just admit it. Which is why you are trying to put ethanal, environmental nonsense, etc…

Just admit it.

 

[Jitss617]

Farmers actually CREATE something tangible, and necessary for human life. Do you want to not have food available? Maybe we should just throw more money away to more social programs in order to social engineer the society? How about we create an inner city plantation for Blacks? Oh wait.

We can just buy imported stuff. We don’t need to pay 3 times for the same food.

We’re already paying for it with our taxes through subsidies.

And we are paying again in the form of your blob’s bail out.

Why do we have to buy it again at the store.?

Move out,, trump will protect Americans

Paying a farmer 3 times for the same ear of corn is rather stupid.
Which is probably the sole reason Trumpers see no problem in doing it.

Picking corn is not the jobs Americans are worried about it’s the cooks, hotel jobs, starting businesses in democrat city’s that control production, production jobs that pay pretty well. These jobs belong to Americans and immigrants that SHARE our values and can assimilate,, Bulgarians, Albanians, etc... NOT Latinos or hatian.

Paying 3 times for the same ear of corn has nothing to do with cooks, hotel jobs, etc…

Why are Conservatives okay with it? Oh yeah, because it’s politically beneficial.

Why shouldn’t we subsidize the movie industry?

Immigrants that can assimilate to our values will do the job, not sure what you don’t understand?

 

[Pilot1]

We need a stable food source. I hate government subsidies and intervention with things like Ethanol, which is a huge waste the Environmental Lobby (Democrats) pushed. However, keeping farms going is a national necessity and security issue. What if we imported all of our food (we import a lot already) and countries said NO MORE! We would starve.

Apparently you don’t hate it at all. Otherwise you’d be angry about subsidizing farmers, bailing farmers out, and then having to buy their food after you’ve paid them twice.

Instead, since your big orange blob is the one telling you to do it, you couldn’t be happier to pay 3 times.

It’s all about politics…just admit it. Which is why you are trying to put ethanal, environmental nonsense, etc…

Just admit it.

So you didn't read my post did you? Would you not want to use tax dollars to fund the military, or provide for border security? Food is a national security and necessity just like national defense and border security. Stop being a hypocrite.

 

[candycorn]

We can just buy imported stuff. We don’t need to pay 3 times for the same food.

We’re already paying for it with our taxes through subsidies.

And we are paying again in the form of your blob’s bail out.

Why do we have to buy it again at the store.?

Move out,, trump will protect Americans

Paying a farmer 3 times for the same ear of corn is rather stupid.
Which is probably the sole reason Trumpers see no problem in doing it.

Picking corn is not the jobs Americans are worried about it’s the cooks, hotel jobs, starting businesses in democrat city’s that control production, production jobs that pay pretty well. These jobs belong to Americans and immigrants that SHARE our values and can assimilate,, Bulgarians, Albanians, etc... NOT Latinos or hatian.

Paying 3 times for the same ear of corn has nothing to do with cooks, hotel jobs, etc…

Why are Conservatives okay with it? Oh yeah, because it’s politically beneficial.

Why shouldn’t we subsidize the movie industry?

Immigrants that can assimilate to our values will do the job, not sure what you don’t understand?

It’s about paying the farmers who pay the immigrants 3 times for the same ear of corn. Somehow you seem to keep missing the point.

 

[boedicca]

"Liberal" - in reality Authoritarian Progressive ideas result in poverty because the objective is for the APs to have power over everyone else. Poor people are much easier to control; and the Power Mongering "Elites" crave the extravagant lifestyles funded by seizing the production of the poor.

 

[candycorn]

We need a stable food source. I hate government subsidies and intervention with things like Ethanol, which is a huge waste the Environmental Lobby (Democrats) pushed. However, keeping farms going is a national necessity and security issue. What if we imported all of our food (we import a lot already) and countries said NO MORE! We would starve.

Apparently you don’t hate it at all. Otherwise you’d be angry about subsidizing farmers, bailing farmers out, and then having to buy their food after you’ve paid them twice.

Instead, since your big orange blob is the one telling you to do it, you couldn’t be happier to pay 3 times.

It’s all about politics…just admit it. Which is why you are trying to put ethanal, environmental nonsense, etc…

Just admit it.

So you didn't read my post did you?

Sure I did. You “hate” subsidies but will (shocking) look the other way if you’re subsidizing republican voting/fund raising blocks like farmers, oil companies, etc...

Would you not want to use tax dollars to fund the military, or provide for border security?

The Military? Don’t be stupid.

Food is a national security and necessity just like national defense and border security. Stop being a hypocrite.

Again….

We paid them with a subsidy.
We paid them with bail out money.
Why are we having to buy the food?

Let me guess… you’re okay with buying the food, meat, dairy, etc….

I say let the market decide. Or are you guys no longer for capitalism and we can add that to the things you used to be for…

family values (gone)
deficit reduction (gone)
smaller government (gone)
free trade(gone)
civility (gone)
rule of law (gone)

 

[Likkmee]

22 trillion for the "war on poverty" since its fundation.
how's that "war on drugs" dealio working out up there ?

 

[Jitss617]

Move out,, trump will protect Americans

Paying a farmer 3 times for the same ear of corn is rather stupid.
Which is probably the sole reason Trumpers see no problem in doing it.

Picking corn is not the jobs Americans are worried about it’s the cooks, hotel jobs, starting businesses in democrat city’s that control production, production jobs that pay pretty well. These jobs belong to Americans and immigrants that SHARE our values and can assimilate,, Bulgarians, Albanians, etc... NOT Latinos or hatian.

Paying 3 times for the same ear of corn has nothing to do with cooks, hotel jobs, etc…

Why are Conservatives okay with it? Oh yeah, because it’s politically beneficial.

Why shouldn’t we subsidize the movie industry?

Immigrants that can assimilate to our values will do the job, not sure what you don’t understand?

It’s about paying the farmers who pay the immigrants 3 times for the same ear of corn. Somehow you seem to keep missing the point.

Our culture is worth more then 3 dollars lol

 

[candycorn]

Paying a farmer 3 times for the same ear of corn is rather stupid.
Which is probably the sole reason Trumpers see no problem in doing it.

Picking corn is not the jobs Americans are worried about it’s the cooks, hotel jobs, starting businesses in democrat city’s that control production, production jobs that pay pretty well. These jobs belong to Americans and immigrants that SHARE our values and can assimilate,, Bulgarians, Albanians, etc... NOT Latinos or hatian.

Paying 3 times for the same ear of corn has nothing to do with cooks, hotel jobs, etc…

Why are Conservatives okay with it? Oh yeah, because it’s politically beneficial.

Why shouldn’t we subsidize the movie industry?

Immigrants that can assimilate to our values will do the job, not sure what you don’t understand?

It’s about paying the farmers who pay the immigrants 3 times for the same ear of corn. Somehow you seem to keep missing the point.

Our culture is worth more then 3 dollars lol

You’re Exhibit A of why Trump supporters are thought to be the dumbest motherfuckers alive.

 

[boedicca]

Picking corn is not the jobs Americans are worried about it’s the cooks, hotel jobs, starting businesses in democrat city’s that control production, production jobs that pay pretty well. These jobs belong to Americans and immigrants that SHARE our values and can assimilate,, Bulgarians, Albanians, etc... NOT Latinos or hatian.

Paying 3 times for the same ear of corn has nothing to do with cooks, hotel jobs, etc…

Why are Conservatives okay with it? Oh yeah, because it’s politically beneficial.

Why shouldn’t we subsidize the movie industry?

Immigrants that can assimilate to our values will do the job, not sure what you don’t understand?

It’s about paying the farmers who pay the immigrants 3 times for the same ear of corn. Somehow you seem to keep missing the point.

Our culture is worth more then 3 dollars lol

You’re Exhibit A of why Trump supporters are thought to be the dumbest motherfuckers alive.

^^^ Diagnosis: Terminal Projection ^^^

 

[Jitss617]

Picking corn is not the jobs Americans are worried about it’s the cooks, hotel jobs, starting businesses in democrat city’s that control production, production jobs that pay pretty well. These jobs belong to Americans and immigrants that SHARE our values and can assimilate,, Bulgarians, Albanians, etc... NOT Latinos or hatian.

Paying 3 times for the same ear of corn has nothing to do with cooks, hotel jobs, etc…

Why are Conservatives okay with it? Oh yeah, because it’s politically beneficial.

Why shouldn’t we subsidize the movie industry?

Immigrants that can assimilate to our values will do the job, not sure what you don’t understand?

It’s about paying the farmers who pay the immigrants 3 times for the same ear of corn. Somehow you seem to keep missing the point.

Our culture is worth more then 3 dollars lol

You’re Exhibit A of why Trump supporters are thought to be the dumbest motherfuckers alive.

What did I say that was dumb?? Haha you just call names??