Why Did Views on The Electoral College and Popular Vote Change?
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there4eyeM
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Some of us have always opposed the electoral college system for being a useless vestige of the past.
That doesn't make us 'right' or 'left', it just means we have an opinion.
That doesn't make us 'right' or 'left', it just means we have an opinion.
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I was under the impression the election was nearly 24 months ago.
You still haven't gotten over it; have you?
Sad.
DOTR
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Since you invented "popular vote for president", which doesnt exist, you invented that rule as well? There is no such thing as a popular vote for president. Each state appoints electors. It so happens every state allows its voters to chime in by state ballots. But they dont have to.
Not one person in this country ever voted for Hillary Clinton for President. He may have voted for an elector...but never for Hillary Clinton. So she didnt win anything. She was never on a ballot except at the Electoral College.
BuckToothMoron
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Actually not winning over 50% is not that unusually. It has happened numerous times, 19 times I believe.
List of United States presidential elections by popular vote margin - Wikipedia
DOTR
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The EC keeps refusing to line up with what they see as the real selection process...media polls.
BuckToothMoron
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Dude, what are you talking about? She was on the same ballot as any congressman, amendment, bill or referendum. Her name was on the ballot I cast. It didn’t have an X Next to it when I mailed it in however.
frigidweirdo
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Bill Clinton didn't win the popular vote, but got more votes than anyone else. It's not great, but it's better than someone winning with LESS votes than their opponent. It's like going into the Superbowl with 10 points already.
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I did not invent shit you ******* moron, this is not my thread, talk to you fellow sheep that started the thread.
FJO
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I have no use for the man, but Obama never got "lambasted".
He won the Electoral College twice. He was legitimately elected, winning the Electoral College.
Just like Donald Trump.
Winning the popular vote is good for nothing but window dressing and bragging rights.
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Pretty truthful statement.
The argument/debate should be if we switch from the electoral college,
do we then elect Presidents' with a plurality of the PV or a Majority.
A Majority would call for a second election between the two leading vote getters, if no one received a majority.
A couple of ways to look at it...Kinda like getting into the Baseball Hall
of Fame for hitting. Do we elect someone to the hall of fame because
he was successful .350 of the time or because he failed .650 of the time.
Bill Clinton won with 43% of the vote (PV). That translates into 57% didn't
wnt him. Abe Lincoln won with 39.8% of the vote. That translates into
60.2% of the people didn't want him.
More people wanted Donald Trump (45%) of the vote, than wanted Bill
Clinton or Abe Lincoln, just to name a few.
It's an eye-opener...ain't it?
Obama2020
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Like GW Bush, Trump won thanks to the electoral college.
The electoral college was put in place to give low population states a voice.
Low population states: Mostly rural, usually conservative, religious, farmers... lots of hunters with AR-15s lol (Trump territory in 2016).
The system makes it harder for city slickers on election day. You need at least 5% extra city slickers to match a red neck militia guy with an AR-15.
Here's the average conversion factor on election day: 1 conservative red neck = 1.05 liberal city slicker.
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I look back now on Clinton and realize I did well under him. He really looks middle isle when compared to Obama
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frigidweirdo
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Well, if the country weren't so partisan, it wouldn't lurch so much.
NightFox
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I suspect that "lambasted" refers to the criticism President Nimrod received from his detractors hereabouts and/or the poor showings in Mid-Term Elections for Crime Family-D during his 2 terms, not his Presidential Election Results.
…. on the other hand I could be wrong and the OP just has no grasp of mathematics.
Another one whose ignorance is matched only by his lack of curiosity.
Really? I am of the opinion it was put in place to prevent too much democracy. 'Mob rule' I think it was called.
edit...I had the impression their voice was guaranteed by assigning two senators to them.
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