‘Why did my friend get blown up? For what?’: Afghanistan war veterans horrified by Taliban gains

[Asclepias]

We never fought to win in Afghanistan. It was stupid to go there in the first place, but that was the entire point. Get the Military bogged down in an endless, unwinnable war.

Thats the entire point I was making except it was stupid to you but not to the people that make money from it.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Youre a clown. You never know what you are talking about. Dont you get it yet? You cant win a guerilla war.

Fuck off

What you know military would fit in a thimble.

The Vietcong waged guerrilla warfare....who won, Lips?

 

[Asclepias]

The Vietcong waged guerrilla warfare....who won, Lips?

Not the US. You seem historically challenged. Like I said you never know what you are talking about.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It was winnable, Iraq was won until Ears fucked it up.... Afghanistan was winnable but ROE prevented that.

Handing all the real estate from Aleppo to Baghdad to Jihadis was treason

 

[ZZ PUPPS]

The US hasn't been in a war since WWII. They have all been police actions. We managed a draw in Korea, all others, of significance, were defeats.

 

[Obiwan]

Youre a clown. You never know what you are talking about. Dont you get it yet? You cant win a guerilla war.

Actually, we were holding our own, and casualties were down...

Until the blithering idiot in the White House lost a 20 year war that he voted for in less than 8 months!!!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Handing all the real estate from Aleppo to Baghdad to Jihadis was treason

Just stay out of the ME, let the muzzies have at it like they have for centuries.

But no aid, leave Israel alone and don't come knocking again

 

[Asclepias]

Actually, we were holding our own, and casualties were down...

Until the blithering idiot in the White House lost a 20 year war that he voted for in less than 8 months!!!

Theres a reason why he is your potus and you are a nobody. You have no clue what you are talking about and thats why no one trusts you in a leadership position.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Theres a reason why he is your potus and you are a nobody. You have no clue what you are talking about and thats why no one trusts you in a leadership position.

Says a nobody

 

[ZZ PUPPS]

Theres a reason why he is your potus and you are a nobody. You have no clue what you are talking about and thats why no one trusts you in a leadership position.

Obi would make a great leader. You might be able to find a job as a fluffer.

 

[WTF19]

the dementia laden, pedophile in the white house needs to hang...along w/the rest of the scum demonRATS
the scum demonRATS don't give 2 shits about any AMERICAN...not even the shit stains that support their anti- AMERICA mentality

 

[bendog]

See with Obi and Lash and WTF, it all turns partisan.

But we take the best of working class America, who are willing to serve with their lives mainly for the aid the more affluent take for granted, or the kids who are motivated to give something "back" to their country ... and just throw them away, or maybe worse turn our backs on what is left of them.

 

[Anomalism]

Actually, we were holding our own, and casualties were down

That doesn't mean we won dude. That was not a winnable situation.

 

[WTF19]

So he was one of the fucking clowns that attacked the wrong country?

Go dildo yourself pinky.

says the fucking retard that does that while thinking of TRUMP---you are 1 pathetic ass wipe

 

[SassyIrishLass]

See with Obi and Lash and WTF, it all turns partisan.

But we take the best of working class America, who are willing to serve with their lives mainly for the aid the more affluent take for granted, or the kids who are motivated to give something "back" to their country ... and just throw them away, or maybe worse turn our backs on what is left of them.

There is a shit load of veterans homeless or needing help ...get off here and go find one

 

[WTF19]

Not the US. You seem historically challenged. Like I said you never know what you are talking about.

You're a shit stain. You never know what you are talking about. Don't you get it yet?

 

[Asclepias]

You're a shit stain. You never know what you are talking about. Don't you get it yet?

So your dumb ass thinks the Vietcong lost the Vietnam war and the US won? I have idiots all over this thread.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

So your dumb ass thinks the Vietcong lost the Vietnam war and the US won? I have idiots all over this thread.

Nobody but you said that, I said the complete opposite

 

[Obiwan]

Theres a reason why he is your potus and you are a nobody. You have no clue what you are talking about and thats why no one trusts you in a leadership position.

Like they say, figures don't lie, but liars sure do figure!!!

Soldiers killed in action in Afghanistan 2001-2021 | Statista

The number of soldiers killed in Afghanistan in 2021 amounted to 13 from the Western coalition, as of October 2021.

www.statista.com

 

[shockedcanadian]

It's a sad, disgusting reality of war. You can argue the merits or not of Afghanistan, but American military leaders and politicians had to be aware that America wasn't going to be able to change the M.E through force. China and Russia would be funding their enemy no matter what.

What I don't understand is how much time and force was used when the U.S surely could have just bribed a few key leaders and topple others through covert means and influence. Why spend 20 years in a shytehole country while China wisely corners locations in the South China Sea that by some estimates are holding TRILLIONS of dollars in resources?

Economic innovation, expansion and domestic civil liberties are what ensure global influence. As Stain said:

"Ideas are more powerful than guns"

Leaving out the rest of his quote as it's speaking about suppression of ideology. The point is, if the West could form and mold ideas in Afghanistan, they would be successful. The use of guns was a certain failure.

Offer leaders a carrot, you aren't going to convert them to be Americans any more than we converted the CCP.