‘Why did my friend get blown up? For what?’: Afghanistan war veterans horrified by Taliban gains

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Exactly what the asshole Obama did with Iraq. Playing Vietnam for his base of 1960’s leftovers. Forfeit all of the sacrifice and then still have to replace 10000 troops. After ISIS fomented.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Biden faces mounting blame for Afghan debacle​

The Taliban's stunning advances in Afghanistan threaten to be a stain on President Joe Biden's record, but he has stood firm on withdrawing US troops and believes the public is with him.

Biden faces mounting blame for Afghan debacle

 

[WTF19]

Youre either retarded or or stupid. I said nothing about dildos in post #11 but you always want to bring them up. Why?

my bad...#7

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Thats all bullshit. If two countries go to war the prez of both countries should battle to the death.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Exactly.

A Combat Veteran and self-defense expert I used to know quite well once told me….

“If there are rules, you’re playing a game not in a fight. Fights don’t have but one rule… WIN!! By whatever means are necessary.”

Yeap. I served in both Iraq, and Afghanistan. Iraq was bad, but they were somewhat competent from the tactical level up. Afghanistan was a complete joke. I realized this right away when two of our AAF pilots decided to take a couple Mi-8 helicopters home to the family farms for use over their Eid break.
Yes, in the middle of a war, and they took breaks for holidays. The stories I have about those cavemen.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

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That’s ok until one president shows up with his entire military.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

That’s ok until one president shows up with his entire military.

I'll tell you what though, if those old, corrupt, perverts have to put their skins in the game...war would disappear.

War is a game of the rich played by the poor, and unwilling.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I'll tell you what though, if those old, corrupt, perverts have to put their skins in the game...war would disappear.

War is a game of the rich played by the poor, and unwilling.

Imagine if those presidents were women. They’d cut off the lights and abolish each other’s countries sports and outlaw beer and spread rumors about all of the women…

 

[Ben Thomson]

So it seems that our war veterans feel the Fucktard is throwing their sacrifices away....

‘Why did my friend get blown up? For what?’: Afghanistan war veterans horrified by Taliban gains​

After enlisting in the U.S. military against his family’s wishes, Chicago native Tom Amenta said he found himself in “middle-of-nowhere,” Afghanistan, in 2002 as an Army ranger in a remote area some 15 minutes from the border with Pakistan. He was fighting the initial battles of a war that few knew would stretch on for 20 years.

Now 40 and retired from the military, he felt anger foam inside as he watched the evening news on Thursday while on a work trip to Pennsylvania.

Headline after headline broadcast the latest gains by Taliban fighters, who have seized control of more than a dozen of the country’s provincial capitals as the Afghan government inches closer to collapse in the final days of the U.S. withdrawal. He was riveted in horror by news of fighters committing suspected war crimes against civilians or Afghan troops.

Friends who had been killed there came to mind, including NFL star Pat Tillman. Fond memories of former Afghan colleagues, such as interpreters, who remained in the country and whose fates he didn’t know, also resurfaced.

“It makes me angry, really angry,” Amenta said of the U.S. withdrawal, lamenting the billions upon billions of dollars spent on the war effort. Not to mention the emotional, financial and human toll suffered by thousands of Americans who served or had sent their loved ones to fight in Afghanistan.

Afghanistan “has never had a clean solution. But now that it’s gotten hard, we’re just going to bounce? It doesn’t make it right,” he said in a phone interview.

Amenta is one of many veterans across the world voicing frustration over the Taliban’s faster-than-expected comeback, reflecting how deeply the conflict resonates throughout the world. Around four dozen countries have sent troops in support of the United States, which with 2,300 killed while serving, has spilled the most amount of blood in the war excluding Afghanistan itself.

Taliban fighters capture Kandahar, Herat and Lashkar Gah in sweeping territorial gains
Amenta recounted memories of Jay A. Blessing of Tacoma, Wash., a goofy friend and fellow Army ranger who used to put hot sauce on everything: “I mean, literally everything. He put hot sauce on ice cream.” Blessing was killed by an improvised bomb in 2003 in Asadabad, Afghanistan.

“I mean, why did my friend get blown up? For what?” said Amenta, who has recently spoken to nearly six dozen veterans from the post-9/11 wars to write a book that’s to be released next month.

n the United Kingdom, where at least 455 British lives were lost over the course of the war, Foreign Affairs Select Committee Chair Tom Tugendhat, who served in Afghanistan, tweeted: “If you think I’m taking the news from Afghanistan badly and personally, you’re right.”

Tugendhat said the withdrawal was “wasteful and unnecessary.” He said, “I’ve seen what it costs and what sacrifices are being thrown away.”

Tugendhat, in a BBC interview, said that withdrawing coalition support in the country had left its government exposed and weak. “We’ve pulled the rug from under them,” he said. “We’ve taken away their air support, we’ve taken away their logistics and we’ve said, ‘Go on then, let’s see how you do.’ ”

Speaking from his home in Tucson, Army veteran John Whalen sighed as reports came in that Kandahar, the second-largest Afghan city, had fallen to the Taliban.

“It’s just frustrating,” Whalen said over the phone. “We knew that this would happen. Now, all the people who went and served, are like, ‘Why did my friend die?’ ”

“I ask that question, too,” Whalen said.

People said the same thing after Nam and Iraq. What was the alternative..stay there another 20 damn years taking casualties?

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Imagine if those presidents were women. They’d cut off the lights and abolish each other’s countries sports and outlaw beer and spread rumors about all of the women…

Women should not lead nations...ever...for any reason. They are, almost without exception, horrid leaders. Their innate desire to nurture driven by high progesterone levels interferes with their ability to function in an efficient, and cutting manner.

 

[freyasman]

People said the same thing after Nam and Iraq. What was the alternative..stay there another 20 damn years taking casualties?

Honestly?

We should have left the place in ruins in 2003 and just left.
I was there, then, and the jihadis were done..... they didn't have shit left and they were hiding.

We could have gone home, called it a win, and talked shit about the educational beatdown we gave them to teach people not to harbor our enemies.





But that's just a grunts thinking.
That ain't how those experts at the Pentagon and the folks in the military industrial complex roll, is it?

 

[Ben Thomson]

Women should not lead nations...ever...for any reason. They are, almost without exception, horrid leaders. Their innate desire to nurture driven by high progesterone levels interferes with their ability to function in an efficient, and cutting manner.

Meaning what..they hate starting wars??

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Meaning what..they hate starting wars??

No, but at the same time they are often incapable of making the tough decisions which create any perception which goes against the grain.
Remember this, whether we are talking about Angela Merkel or Betty the Denny's waitress the ultimate fear in a woman is rejection, from the group, the family, the society. Women must belong. They even shit in groups.
Sometimes as a leader you must make the hard decisions which are in the best interest of your country, and only your country. Women are communal creatures who seek to nurture, engender togetherness, and harmony. They are not hard nosed leaders.
Why do you think they are promoted so heavily in a globalist world? They are natural globalists.

 

[Ben Thomson]

No, but at the same time they are often incapable of making the tough decisions which create any perception which goes against the grain.
Remember this, whether we are talking about Angela Merkel or Betty the Denny's waitress the ultimate fear in a woman is rejection, from the group, the family, the society. Women must belong. They even shit in groups.
Sometimes as a leader you must make the hard decisions which are in the best interest of your country, and only your country. Women are communal creatures who seek to nurture, engender togetherness, and harmony. They are not hard nosed leaders.
Why do you think they are promoted so heavily in a globalist world? They are natural globalists.

Can you give an example of a hard tough decision a woman would never make as a leader.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Can you give an example of a hard tough decision a woman would never make as a leader.

Sure, Angela Merkel opening borders to hundreds of thousands, if not millions of untested, un vetted migrants due to pressures from international human rights groups.

Jacinda Ardern--banning most weapons in New Zealand as a result of one mass shooting. Once again in response to international anti-gun organizations.

Women, whether left, or right invariably vote progressive, and internationalist. That is why they are so promoted, especially in culturally, and ethnically white nations.

Why? Because white males tend to vote the exact opposite...TEND to.

 

[Burgermeister]

When was the last time a president told the country why the fuck our kids had to be over there at all?

 

[Ben Thomson]

Sure, Angela Merkel opening borders to hundreds of thousands, if not millions of untested, un vetted migrants due to pressures from international human rights groups.

Jacinda Ardern--banning most weapons in New Zealand as a result of one mass shooting. Once again in response to international anti-gun organizations.

Women, whether left, or right invariably vote progressive, and internationalist. That is why they are so promoted, especially in culturally, and ethnically white nations.

Why? Because white males tend to vote the exact opposite...TEND to.

What's tough and hard about those decisions?..Merkel was responding to a refugee crisis in 2015 and had the backing of fellow Germans. Arden made a damn good decision..how many mass shootings has New Zealand had over the last five years compared to us?

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

What's tough and hard about those decisions?..Merkel was responding to a refugee crisis in 2015 and had the backing of fellow Germans. Arden made a damn good decision..how many mass shootings has New Zealand had over the last five years compared to us?

Because their actions did not reflect the opinions, and desires of the vast majority of THEIR PEOPLE. they do not think about Germany, or New Zealand and the wishes of the majority. They always opt for the wishes, and dreams of the greater WORLD community.

 

[freyasman]

Gabe Lackmann is right.
He's describing what I call "bitch thinking".
All women and far too many males do it, and it ALWAYS goes badly.


You know why women and children get put on the lifeboat first?

So the men can have some peace and quiet to work on solving the problem.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

You know why women and children get put on the lifeboat first?

So the men can have some peace and quiet to work on solving the problem.

lol! True man.

Modern 'men' if you can call them that, are feminized, emasculated, eunuchs. They have been conditioned by feminist, and Socialist doctrine to believe that the natural order of things in not only counter productive, but evil.
Mankind existed in successful cultures for thousands of years, separated by oceans following very similar traditional roles. Yet, the modern man has grown to believe that all of that was wrong.
Fools.