Why did Christians build Churches over existing Pagan temples?

[Moonglow]

It's equivalent to an army hoisting it's flag over a captured piece of ground. An animalistic sign of dominance.

"Wherest ever thou have trampled thine enemies under foot, plant thine pole and flag. Makest thine enemies kneel prostrate before you, for I am the god of desolation and destruction. Wield your sword before you as a reminder to all this is whom you worship."

Funny how the Judean/Christian religions state that peace and love are part of their dichotomy, yet they rarely follow it..

Worship of a deity has produced some very good results for humankind, but it has also produced the most hideous atrocities against the human race.

Sure, as with most human inventions....

 

[Moonglow]

Jesus was a hebrew aka jew unlike most living in Isarel today,according to the evidence and historical facts. And my understanding of the same.

What happened to all the Shebrews? As far as we know, Jesus was a Nazarene...

 

[aris2chat]

the vatican was built upon pagan religious site and used pagan imagery , what was the purpose of this
The Vatican is partly built over a temple of Cybele. The Mithraic meetings were held in underground chambers

why so many pagan statues at the vatican?

Laocoön and His Sons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most churches and sites and art were to lure pagans to what they knew and replace it with Catholicism.

The story of mithras was familiar to them and over lapping Jesus made the new son god more acceptable to them.

Making europe christian was a long process and even loyal christians kept many of their pagan ideas and myths to this day

 

[The Irish Ram]

Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi. Still is. He will come to the aid of the Jews when all nations come against them. And that is after the new Temple is built. In fact, it will be the desecration of that Temple that will start WW3. The Jews will win, because the Lion of the tribe of Judah is coming back to ensure it.

 

[guno]

Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi. Still is. He will come to the aid of the Jews when all nations come against them. And that is after the new Temple is built. In fact, it will be the desecration of that Temple that will start WW3. The Jews will win, because the Lion of the tribe of Judah is coming back to ensure it.

no, he was not a rabbi , no matter how much your christian mythology tells you so

scholars do not refer to Jesus as a “rabbi” because the boundaries have been set to define him as slightly before the rabbinic era (post 70 ce)

 

[Moonglow]

the vatican was built upon pagan religious site and used pagan imagery , what was the purpose of this
The Vatican is partly built over a temple of Cybele. The Mithraic meetings were held in underground chambers

why so many pagan statues at the vatican?

Laocoön and His Sons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most churches and sites and art were to lure pagans to what they knew and replace it with Catholicism.

The story of mithras was familiar to them and over lapping Jesus made the new son god more acceptable to them.

Making europe christian was a long process and even loyal christians kept many of their pagan ideas and myths to this day

Like Santa...

 

[Penelope]

Jesus was a hebrew aka jew unlike most living in Isarel today,according to the evidence and historical facts. And my understanding of the same.

The character of Jesus was a jew, right. Jews did not have demigods.

 

[Moonglow]

Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi. Still is. He will come to the aid of the Jews when all nations come against them. And that is after the new Temple is built. In fact, it will be the desecration of that Temple that will start WW3. The Jews will win, because the Lion of the tribe of Judah is coming back to ensure it.

I'll be taking bets with 3-1 odds...

 

[Moonglow]

Jesus was a hebrew aka jew unlike most living in Isarel today,according to the evidence and historical facts. And my understanding of the same.

The character of Jesus was a jew, right. Jews did not have demigods.

There was Moses...a man that would have rivaled Ulysses..

 

[Indeependent]

Jews don't have supernatural saviors.
If you read your Bible carefully, Moses did not do miracles, God did.

 

[guno]

In Judaism, the idea of God as a duality or trinity is heretical — it is even considered by some polytheistic.According to Judaic beliefs, the Torah rules out a trinitarian God in Deuteronomy (6:4): "Hear Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is one."


To the question, Was Jesus God or man?, the Christians therefore answered: both. After 70 CE, their answer was unanimous and increasingly emphatic. This made a complete breach with Judaism inevitable.

Judaism teaches that it is heretical for any man to claim to be God, part of God, or the literal son of God. The Jerusalem Talmud (Ta'anit 2:1) states explicitly: "if a man claims to be God, he is a liar."

In the 12th century, the preeminent Jewish scholar Maimonides codified core principles of Judaism, writing "[God], the Cause of all, is one. This does not mean one as in one of a pair, nor one like a species (which encompasses many individuals), nor one as in an object that is made up of many elements, nor as a single simple object that is infinitely divisible. Rather, God is a unity unlike any other possible unity."


Judaism's idea of the messiah differs substantially from the Christian idea of the Messiah. In Judaism, the messiah's task is to bring in the Messianic Age, a one-time event, and a presumed messiah who is killed before completing the task (i.e., compelling all of Israel to walk in the way of Torah, repairing the breaches in observance, fighting the wars of God, building the Temple in its place, gathering in the dispersed exiles of Israel) is not the messiah.

But if he did not succeed in all this or was killed, he is definitely not the Moshiach promised in the Torah... and God only appointed him in order to test the masses.

Jews believe that the messiah will fulfill the messianic prophecies of the prophets Isaiah and Ezekiel. According to Isaiah, the messiah will be a paternal descendant of King David. He is expected to return the Jews to their homeland and rebuild the Temple, reign as King, and usher in an era of peace and understanding where "the knowledge of God" fills the earth, leading the nations to "end up recognizing the wrongs they did Israel". Ezekiel states the messiah will redeem the Jews.

Therefore, any Judaic view of Jesus per se is influenced by the fact that Jesus lived while the Second Temple was standing, and not while the Jews were exiled. He never reigned as King, and there was no subsequent era of peace or great knowledge. Jesus died without completing or even accomplishing part of any of the messianic tasks, instead promising a Second Coming. Rather than being redeemed, the Jews were subsequently exiled from Israel. These discrepancies were noted by Jewish scholars who were contemporaries of Jesus, as later pointed out by Nahmanides, who in 1263 observed that Jesus was rejected as the messiah by the rabbis of his time.

Moreover, Judaism sees Christian claims that Jesus is the textual messiah of the Hebrew Bible as being based on mistranslations and Jesus did not fulfill the Jewish Messiah qualifications.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

You're trying to equate Catholicism with the True Church. The Catholic Church was founded by Simon Magus after the apostles rejected his attempt to purchase an apostleship. It was Simon Magus they unknowingly refer to as "Peter."

That church always looked for opportunities to incorporate paganism with some aspects of true Christianity.

 

[Penelope]

Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi. Still is. He will come to the aid of the Jews when all nations come against them. And that is after the new Temple is built. In fact, it will be the desecration of that Temple that will start WW3. The Jews will win, because the Lion of the tribe of Judah is coming back to ensure it.

Oh heaven help us stop this madness.

 

[Penelope]

Jesus was a hebrew aka jew unlike most living in Isarel today,according to the evidence and historical facts. And my understanding of the same.

The character of Jesus was a jew, right. Jews did not have demigods.

There was Moses...a man that would have rivaled Ulysses..

Yes ole Moses , all he had to do was lift his arm or arms.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Jews don't have supernatural saviors.
If you read your Bible carefully, Moses did not do miracles, God did.

And Jesus WAS/IS the God who revealed Himself to Moses.

Today's Christians wrongly believe the God of the OT was the One Jesus called "the Father " He was not. Jesus said He came to REVEAL the Father.

 

[Penelope]

You're trying to equate Catholicism with the True Church. The Catholic Church was founded by Simon Magus after the apostles rejected his attempt to purchase an apostleship. It was Simon Magus they unknowingly refer to as "Peter."

That church always looked for opportunities to incorporate paganism with some aspects of true Christianity.

If not for Rome you'd probably be a Muslim.

 

[aris2chat]

Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi. Still is. He will come to the aid of the Jews when all nations come against them. And that is after the new Temple is built. In fact, it will be the desecration of that Temple that will start WW3. The Jews will win, because the Lion of the tribe of Judah is coming back to ensure it.

no, he was not a rabbi , no matter how much your christian mythology tells you so

Rabbi was also teacher. Jesus was able to argue and discuss the torah with the heads of the temple as a boy. He was allowed to read and teach at the temple.
Back then they did not have a school diploma for a rabbi to hand on the wall
Political appointees at the temple feared his influence on their power and status quo between the romans and the temple operations/business. They feared what came to pass in years later, the destruction of the temple.

 

[guno]

Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi. Still is. He will come to the aid of the Jews when all nations come against them. And that is after the new Temple is built. In fact, it will be the desecration of that Temple that will start WW3. The Jews will win, because the Lion of the tribe of Judah is coming back to ensure it.

no, he was not a rabbi , no matter how much your christian mythology tells you so

Rabbi was also teacher. Jesus was able to argue and discuss the torah with the heads of the temple as a boy. He was allowed to read and teach at the temple.
Back then they did not have a school diploma for a rabbi to hand on the wall
Political appointees at the temple feared his influence on their power and status quo between the romans and the temple operations/business. They feared what came to pass in years later, the destruction of the temple.

esus was able to argue and discuss the torah with the heads of the temple as a boy

and that claim is found nowhere else except the christian bible

 

[Indeependent]

Jews don't have supernatural saviors.
If you read your Bible carefully, Moses did not do miracles, God did.

And Jesus WAS/IS the God who revealed Himself to Moses.

Today's Christians wrongly believe the God of the OT was the One Jesus called "the Father " He was not. Jesus said He came to REVEAL the Father.

Yeah, uh-huh, sure, what you say...not.
Please DO NOT use ANY Jewish Scripture to back up your claims and that includes Jeremiah and Isaiah.

 

[Indeependent]

Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi. Still is. He will come to the aid of the Jews when all nations come against them. And that is after the new Temple is built. In fact, it will be the desecration of that Temple that will start WW3. The Jews will win, because the Lion of the tribe of Judah is coming back to ensure it.

no, he was not a rabbi , no matter how much your christian mythology tells you so

Rabbi was also teacher. Jesus was able to argue and discuss the torah with the heads of the temple as a boy. He was allowed to read and teach at the temple.
Back then they did not have a school diploma for a rabbi to hand on the wall
Political appointees at the temple feared his influence on their power and status quo between the romans and the temple operations/business. They feared what came to pass in years later, the destruction of the temple.

The scene at the Temple almost made me fall on the floor laughing.
The punishment for what they did was the death penalty and the Kohanim were not wusses.