Why did Arafat turn down 97% of the W Bank and all of Gaza in 2000?

[irosie91]

Coyote----No muslim leader can accept a treaty with Israel---
that precludes the destruction of Israel----it would be
blasphemy at this time. Islam is undergoing one of its
PERIODIC revivals You will see strange happenings---
possible book burnings possible mass musical
instrument destroying parties. The theme of these events
is PURIFICATION ----kinda like the Inquisition was a
"PURIFICATION" There is really no reason to consider
"peace negotiations" right now

 

[member]

I do not care what the weather is like in Barrow, Alaska.

And I still agree with you 100% that the inmates from Gitmo should be transfered there immediately .........

Ah, but you'll care if by chance you wind up there, Polar Man.

"Nope, I

obey all laws and pay my taxes........"

....cool, although, on one hand, "law-abiding citizen" - But my face, head, and body should be covered - you have no problem with that. a law is a (islamic) law...

does not compute....

... vroom, vroom... .

 

[member]

I'd really like to know what posters think about this historic and bewildering event that took place. I still don't get it. It was all handed to him on a silver platter and he refused to form a Palestinian State.

Tinydancer...when i saw your name earlier, a song immediately popped into my head...thanks. cool... (for me anyway).

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LUie81E82k]Sister Sledge - He's The Greatest Dancer (1979) - YouTube[/ame][/CENTER]

 

[proudveteran06]

Coyote----No muslim leader can accept a treaty with Israel---
that precludes the destruction of Israel----it would be
blasphemy at this time. Islam is undergoing one of its
PERIODIC revivals You will see strange happenings---
possible book burnings possible mass musical
instrument destroying parties. The theme of these events
is PURIFICATION ----kinda like the Inquisition was a
"PURIFICATION" There is really no reason to consider
"peace negotiations" right now

To the Pro- Palestinian " peace negotiations" is Abbas getting everything his way making no Concessions and that's not going to happen.

Even with limited " Right of Return" ( no such thing); How many? Who will decide ? Who will have the final say? How can Israel be convinced these aren't secretly members of Hamas? ( I'm serious)

Again; Abbas struck it down immediately. However, for the above questions alone it's out of the question .

 

[Coyote]

Coyote----No muslim leader can accept a treaty with Israel---
that precludes the destruction of Israel----it would be
blasphemy at this time. Islam is undergoing one of its
PERIODIC revivals You will see strange happenings---
possible book burnings possible mass musical
instrument destroying parties. The theme of these events
is PURIFICATION ----kinda like the Inquisition was a
"PURIFICATION" There is really no reason to consider
"peace negotiations" right now

To the Pro- Palestinian " peace negotiations" is Abbas getting everything his way making no Concessions and that's not going to happen.

Even with limited " Right of Return" ( no such thing); How many? Who will decide ? Who will have the final say? How can Israel be convinced these aren't secretly members of Hamas? ( I'm serious)

Again; Abbas struck it down immediately. However, for the above questions alone it's out of the question .

The only concession that really matters, and Israel refuses is settlement building. It's not just Abbas.

I agree on Right of Return. It's a no-go.

 

[irosie91]

Coyote----No muslim leader can accept a treaty with Israel---
that precludes the destruction of Israel----it would be
blasphemy at this time. Islam is undergoing one of its
PERIODIC revivals You will see strange happenings---
possible book burnings possible mass musical
instrument destroying parties. The theme of these events
is PURIFICATION ----kinda like the Inquisition was a
"PURIFICATION" There is really no reason to consider
"peace negotiations" right now

To the Pro- Palestinian " peace negotiations" is Abbas getting everything his way making no Concessions and that's not going to happen.

Even with limited " Right of Return" ( no such thing); How many? Who will decide ? Who will have the final say? How can Israel be convinced these aren't secretly members of Hamas? ( I'm serious)

Again; Abbas struck it down immediately. However, for the above questions alone it's out of the question .

veteran I rarely comment on the "return" issue----but here is my personal
opinion----which I know to be at variance even with many Israelis the answer is

NO!!!! not one---

the whole program is idiotic whilst muslims in the world
refer to Israel as "MUSLIM LAND" and jews who LIVED in
arabia more than 1000 years -----(back when Jews lived in arabia)
cannot set foot in the land of the filthy rapist pig-
---who actually comitted a genocide of jews in that land.
It would be like germany saying "jews
cannot visit our concentration camps because it is on holy nazi soil"

my understanding of the general islamic POV---is that their ability
to oppress and GAIN THE UPPER HAND OVER NON MUSLIMS --
somehow "proves" the "superiority" of their creed ----the program
is self perpetuating-----they more they gain by BY FORCE or THREAT
the more force they exert and the more they demand

all deals should be made with an eye toward equity---which, of course
includes the details of the losses sustained by the jews who fled
islamic oppression. No arab should get a dime for lost land----
unless jews who lost in ANY muslim land are comparibly compensated.
Of course---that is not going to happen

 

[Coyote]

No arab should get a dime for lost land----
unless jews who lost in ANY muslim land are comparibly compensated.
Of course---that is not going to happen

I disagree. Each country and group of refugeees should be dealt with individually as individuals - not via religious identifications. That is the road to bigotry.

 

[irosie91]

No arab should get a dime for lost land----
unless jews who lost in ANY muslim land are comparibly compensated.
Of course---that is not going to happen

I disagree. Each country and group of refugeees should be dealt with individually as individuals - not via religious identifications. That is the road to bigotry.

The road to bigotry is the DISCARDING OF EQUITY------a policy of compensation
to "palestinians" and not jews is the DISCARDING OF EQUITY It is not
a question of "RELIGION" it is a GROUP issue-----somewhat comparable to
race ---ETHNIC FAVORITISM

 

[toastman]

There will NEVER be a right of return for the Palestinians. NEVER EVER

The sooner people realize this, the sooner we can move on

 

[P F Tinmore]

No arab should get a dime for lost land----
unless jews who lost in ANY muslim land are comparibly compensated.
Of course---that is not going to happen

I disagree. Each country and group of refugeees should be dealt with individually as individuals - not via religious identifications. That is the road to bigotry.

The road to bigotry is the DISCARDING OF EQUITY------a policy of compensation
to "palestinians" and not jews is the DISCARDING OF EQUITY It is not
a question of "RELIGION" it is a GROUP issue-----somewhat comparable to
race ---ETHNIC FAVORITISM

I agree that both Palestinians and Jews have the right to return but they are unrelated issues. The Palestinians had nothing to do with the Jewish problem and they should not be connected together.

 

[proudveteran06]

I disagree. Each country and group of refugeees should be dealt with individually as individuals - not via religious identifications. That is the road to bigotry.

The road to bigotry is the DISCARDING OF EQUITY------a policy of compensation
to "palestinians" and not jews is the DISCARDING OF EQUITY It is not
a question of "RELIGION" it is a GROUP issue-----somewhat comparable to
race ---ETHNIC FAVORITISM

I agree that both Palestinians and Jews have the right to return but they are unrelated issues. The Palestinians had nothing to do with the Jewish problem and they should not be connected together.

Can anyone imagine Jews wanting to return to Arabs land? lol What a foolish comment. " Right of Return" is dead. Obama has actually stated it's out of the question. Even the U.N. and the Arab States aren't pushing for it. Let Abbas keep insisting

 

[member]

Coyote: "The only concession that really matters, and Israel refuses is settlement building. It's not just Abbas..."

where's, ...MBJ ? As of today, are there any illegal settlements in Israel ?

i sure could use a refresher course.....

PTfinkmore. besides east jerusalem,

what other areas are on the list of disputed areas-"illegal settlements" etc... ?

what about right now ?

does israel have any construction equipment building on a swathe of land somewhere that falls into this 'disputed' category ?

 

[Sunni Man]

By any means necessary; the Palestinian people will eventually get their right to return.........

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

By any means necessary; the Palestinian people will eventually get their right to return.........

I am reading that a Right of Return Conference is scheduled at the Boston University Law School Auditorium for April 6 to April 7. http://www.facebook.com/RightOfReturnConference?sk=timeline

 

[proudveteran06]

By any means necessary; the Palestinian people will eventually get their right to return.........

I am reading that a Right of Return Conference is scheduled at the Boston University Law School Auditorium for April 6 to April 7. http://www.facebook.com/RightOfReturnConference?sk=timeline

Good. I'm glad. Let them knock themselves out.

 

[Sunni Man]

By any means necessary; the Palestinian people will eventually get their right to return.........

I am reading that a Right of Return Conference is scheduled at the Boston University Law School Auditorium for April 6 to April 7. http://www.facebook.com/RightOfReturnConference?sk=timeline

Thanks for the heads up.......I plan on being there........

 

[Hossfly]

By any means necessary; the Palestinian people will eventually get their right to return.........

I am reading that a Right of Return Conference is scheduled at the Boston University Law School Auditorium for April 6 to April 7. http://www.facebook.com/RightOfReturnConference?sk=timeline

Thanks for the heads up.......I plan on being there........

Pbel will be there too. You'll be glad to meet him. He'll be the one in the pink tutu.

 

[Sunni Man]

I am reading that a Right of Return Conference is scheduled at the Boston University Law School Auditorium for April 6 to April 7. http://www.facebook.com/RightOfReturnConference?sk=timeline

Thanks for the heads up.......I plan on being there........

Pbel will be there too. You'll be glad to meet him. He'll be the one in the pink tutu.

Is he going to borrow yours??..........

 

[ima]

Thanks for the heads up.......I plan on being there........

Pbel will be there too. You'll be glad to meet him. He'll be the one in the pink tutu.

Is he going to borrow yours??..........

He got one on eBay from some guy with a long beard full of lice named Mohammed.

 

[irosie91]

If arafart "accepted" a peace deal----he would be out of
work and not being funded in the millions -----why should
he destroy his bread and butter?

remember the adage developed in the masjids----
TO DETERMINE WHO DONE IT---DETERMINE
WHO BENEFITTED