Why deny Iran a Nuclear weapon.? Israel has one.? There are other countries with Nuclear weapons?!,This denial does not make any sense. ?!?

[Toddsterpatriot]

And returning to the question of Iran and nuclear weapons, there are two important parts:
1) Safety of Iran should be guaranteed. For war against Iran will decrease international safety.
2) Number of nuclear powers shouldn't be increased. More missiles, more buttons, more fingers on the buttons - more temptations to push a button preemptively means less international safety.

It seems to me, that the compromise solution, acceptable to most sides concerned, might be "nuclear sharing". Russia gives Iran nuclear weapons (both land and air legs to attack Israel and sea components to attack the USA), teach Iranians to use it, but don't give codes to use it. If, and only if, Iran is attacked and Russia agrees that Iran was attacked and this attack is the threat to the very existence of Iran - Russia gives them codes.

I agree, Iran needs to be safe.

What can we do to help the Iranian people bring the mullahs to justice?

 

[Zavulon]

I agree, Iran needs to be safe.

What can we do to help the Iranian people bring the mullahs to justice?

It is Iranian people who brought the mullahs to power, and it's none of your business.

 

[MarathonMike]

I agree, Iran needs to be safe.

What can we do to help the Iranian people bring the mullahs to justice?

That time would have been before Obama, Kerry and Biden pumped them up with billions and a retarded nuclear arms treaty that enabled them to get to the doorstep of producing their own nuclear weapons. The military is too strong and they have no problem gunning down protesters in the streets as they have demonstrated.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It is Iranian people who brought the mullahs to power, and it's none of your business.

You don't want Iran to be safe?

 

[GLASNOST]

And Warsaw Pact did it "to protect Czechoslovakia against NATO".

 

[MarathonMike]

It is Iranian people who brought the mullahs to power, and it's none of your business.

The Iranian people hate the mullahs especially the strong women of Iran. They risk being imprisoned, tortured and killed by the Regime for protesting or speaking out against the Regime. A fact you conveniently ignore.

 

[Zavulon]

You don't want Iran to be safe?

Safety from external threats is one thing. Regime changing is another. If Iran wants to be protected from Israelis or American aggression (and ready to pay for this) - Russia can give them nukes. If Iranian people want to change their regime - basically, they have elections or possibility of secular revolution. Of course, if there is pro-Western and anti-Russian (anti-Azerbaijan) revolution, Russia will take back Gilan and Azerbaijan will take Southern Azerbaijan. They know it, that's why they prefer not to do anything really stupid.

 

[Zavulon]

The Iranian people hate the mullahs especially the strong women of Iran. They risk being imprisoned, tortured and killed by the Regime for protesting or speaking out against the Regime. A fact you conveniently ignore.

Mike, I've heard all those lies from the same sources who have lied about actual situation in Russia (which I know first hands) and in Ukraine (which I know second hands, but from reliable sources). In fact, all those guys were lying about possibility (and even good chances) of Kamala Harris to win the elections in the USA.

And while I don't have friends and relatives in Iran, there is one thing I know for sure (and let's make it the starting point of our conversations). Everything that Western Medias have been telling you about Iran - is a blatant lie. Every single word of it.

 

[GLASNOST]

... the strong women of Iran ... risk being imprisoned, tortured and killed by the Regime.

I am against the torture and the killing, but the imprisonment ........ sounds good to me. We need some of that in my country too. Our Feminists are too damned uppity.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Mike, I've heard all those lies from the same sources who have lied about actual situation in Russia (which I know first hands) and in Ukraine (which I know second hands, but from reliable sources). In fact, all those guys were lying about possibility (and even good chances) of Kamala Harris to win the elections in the USA.

And while I don't have friends and relatives in Iran, there is one thing I know for sure (and let's make it the starting point of our conversations). Everything that Western Medias have been telling you about Iran - is a blatant lie. Every single word of it.

The Shah was popular with a lot of Iranians. Just like Saddam Hussein was popular with a lot of the Iraqis. Inconvenient truths where different groups of people won’t like what is being said.

About 70 to 80% of Iranians I have spoken with prefer the shah…same can be said for the Iraqis I have spoken with when it comes to Hussein.

 

[hungry mof]

The crazy thing about leaders getting a nuke is that they are the last ones to want to use it. It means their power is gone.

 

[Captain Caveman]

This idea that Iran can not , or should not have a Nuclear weapon, does not make any sense. Israel has one. There are a few other nations with nuclear weapons.?! Iran is an independent nation. They are able to decide if they need a nuclear weapon or not. Just because the Israeli prime minister feels that they should not have a nuclear weapon is not a good enough reason. Israel has nuclear weapons.?! There seems to be a global double standard at play here.??!! Your thoughts.?! This is why the Ayatollahs are always upset at Israel and the United States.!? We are trying to tell them what they can have or can not have.!!??. Your thoughts. ??

It's extremely likely Iran would use it.

 

[Polishprince]

This idea that Iran can not , or should not have a Nuclear weapon, does not make any sense.

Actually it makes a lot of sense.

Iran is the Senior Member of the Axis of Evil- the organization first identified by Biden-Harris devotee George W. Bush.


The Axis hates the very idea of goodness and democracy- in fact it makes them sick to the stomach and drives them to fury.

Needless to say, keeping A-bombs and H-bombs out of the hands of a crazed ayatollah makes eminent sense.

 

[GLASNOST]

The crazy thing about leaders getting a nuke is that they are the last ones to want to use it. It means their power is gone.

The US has been using radioactive weapons ever since the 1940s and they still use them today.

 

[GLASNOST]

This idea that Iran can not , or should not have a Nuclear weapon, does not make any sense.

Actually it makes a lot of sense.

Iran is the Senior Member of the Axis of Evil.

The US is the Leading Member of the Axis of Evil. The US has Nuclear weapons. The US has bombed civilians with Nuclear bombs and the US uses Nuclear weapons every day.

 

[MarathonMike]

Mike, I've heard all those lies from the same sources who have lied about actual situation in Russia (which I know first hands) and in Ukraine (which I know second hands, but from reliable sources). In fact, all those guys were lying about possibility (and even good chances) of Kamala Harris to win the elections in the USA.

And while I don't have friends and relatives in Iran, there is one thing I know for sure (and let's make it the starting point of our conversations). Everything that Western Medias have been telling you about Iran - is a blatant lie. Every single word of it.

No it is not, because much of the information comes from brave Iranian journalists who live in the US. Just like I posted in this thread about Masih Alinejad who has survived several assassination attempts orderd by the Iranian Regime. Or Elehah Tavakolian who was shot by Regime forces during a protest and lost an eye. If the Mullahs think nothing of killing their own citizens, they certainly wouldn't think twice of nuking a country they see as an enemy.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Safety from external threats is one thing. Regime changing is another. If Iran wants to be protected from Israelis or American aggression (and ready to pay for this) - Russia can give them nukes.

Why do they have to rely on Russia to give them nukes? Why can't they make their own nukes? Serious question.

 

[MarathonMike]

Why do they have to rely on Russia to give them nukes? Why can't they make their own nukes? Serious question.

Most of the challenge is creating enough enriched uranium for the nuclear warheads. They are very close to achieving that goal.

 

[Zavulon]

No it is not, because much of the information comes from brave Iranian journalists who live in the US. Just like I posted in this thread about Masih Alinejad who has survived several assassination attempts orderd by the Iranian Regime. Or Elehah Tavakolian who was shot by Regime forces during a protest and lost an eye. If the Mullahs think nothing of killing their own citizens, they certainly wouldn't think twice of nuking a country they see as an enemy.

I hope you understand that literally everything, that "brave Iranian journalists who live in the USA" write about Iran is a plain and utter lie, and simply can't be anything else.

 

[Zavulon]

Why do they have to rely on Russia to give them nukes? Why can't they make their own nukes? Serious question.

There shouldn't be too many nuclear states. Too many missiles, too many buttons, too many temptations for preemptive strike. More than 10 nuclear states makes the world too unstable and force other sides to earn nukes too. Middle East in which not only Iran and Israel but also Syria, Iraq, Lebadon, Saudi's and Egypt has nukes is less safe for everyone, including Iran itself.
Middle East in which only unbalanced Israel has nukes - isn't safe for everyone except Israel.
Totally denuclearised Middle East (there even Israel doesn't have nukes) may be less dangerous place for everyone (except Israel).
Nuclear sharing is, as I can see, reasonable compromise. Both Israel and the USA are minimally deterred, they won't attack Iran (with Russian nukes) without really serious reasons, and Iran can't attack them first (without Russian permission).