Zone1 Why are you an atheist?

[frigidweirdo]

which scientist is that who claims the universe was one time nothing ...

That's not what I'm saying.

Good scientists will say "this is what we know and this is what we don't know."

Nobody knows whether the universe was at one time nothing or not.

Scientists make hypotheses. They test their hypotheses with what we know and see if it fits or not.

We literally don't have enough data to see a time before when there could have been nothing, or not.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The evidence says otherwise. The CMB is the evidence of a paired particle production cascading event. The science says the universe popped into existence and then began to expand and cool.

Say, for example, that there was a big bang and ALL ENERGY was concentrated into a very small place, perhaps down to the size of an atom, or whatever, then all evidence of what happened before this was destroyed. It all got melted down into this super hot, super dense energy cluster.

There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.

 

[luiza]

Prima facia

Referring to you it would be , Prima Fuckia .

Dimwit , the Latin is , Prima Facie .

 

[ding]

Say, for example, that there was a big bang and ALL ENERGY was concentrated into a very small place, perhaps down to the size of an atom, or whatever, then all evidence of what happened before this was destroyed. It all got melted down into this super hot, super dense energy cluster.

There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.

Incorrect. The CMB is the evidence.

Where do you suppose the massive amount of cosmic microwave background radiation came from?

The Early Universe

• In the early universe, matter and anti-matter were being created equally out of the radiation
  • pair production
    • pair production is the production of matter and anti-matter in pairs
    • two photons can produce a pair
    • particle-antiparticle annihilation (the reverse process) is also possible

 

[Meriweather]

now, I told you what it would take for me to believe a god or gods exist, but you did not even try to satisfy my requirements. Why is that?

I told you exactly what it would take. It takes entering into a relationship with God as Father/Creator, loving Him and His creation, and following/observing his Laws/Ways.

As a little one, I looked into a swimming pool and had no belief I could swim, and for the longest time refused to let go of the edge of the pool. That is you, when it comes to God. You see others happily 'swimming' in belief/ways because they have faith it will keep them afloat and even take them where they would like to go. You, on the other hand, are clinging to the edge, refusing to believe it can do anything for you--and are afraid it may even be dangerous for you to try.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Incorrect. The CMB is the evidence.

Where do you suppose the massive amount of cosmic microwave background radiation came from?

The Early Universe

• In the early universe, matter and anti-matter were being created equally out of the radiation
  • pair production
    • pair production is the production of matter and anti-matter in pairs
    • two photons can produce a pair
    • particle-antiparticle annihilation (the reverse process) is also possible

Think about it from another point of view.

We have light. We can see a galaxy that was formed at the beginning of the universe because that light has been traveling through the universe.

However if all energy within the universe (light is energy) were to end up in one very small, compact space, then all the evidence will be in the same place.

You won't be able to judge anything.

The same for microwaves. They're just energy. They would all be in the same place, all energy would be there.

 

[ding]

Think about it from another point of view.

We have light. We can see a galaxy that was formed at the beginning of the universe because that light has been traveling through the universe.

However if all energy within the universe (light is energy) were to end up in one very small, compact space, then all the evidence will be in the same place.

You won't be able to judge anything.

The same for microwaves. They're just energy. They would all be in the same place, all energy would be there.

The radiation of the CMB from e=mc^2 is equivalent to a mass which is 2 billion times the matter in our universe. That’s how they know that for every 1 billion antimatter particles there were 1 billion and 1 matter particles. Such that every particle in our universe came from 1 billion antimatter particles annihilating 1 billion matter particles.

The CMB is literally the radiation left over from the creation of the universe. Why are you denying science? Does it offend your religious beliefs?

 

[frigidweirdo]

The radiation of the CMB from e=mc^2 is equivalent to a mass which is 2 billion times the matter in our universe. That’s how they know that for every 1 billion antimatter particles there were 1 billion and 1 matter particles. Such that every particle in our universe came from 1 billion antimatter particles annihilating 1 billion matter particles.

The CMB is literally the radiation left over from the creation of the universe. Why are you denying science? Does it offend your religious beliefs?

You're not listening are you? I'm not religious.

The Big Bang has NOT BEEN PROVEN. It's a THEORY.

Now, I'm working on the basis here that the Big Bang happened, but it wasn't the beginning. That all energy goes around in a cycle, it reaches a point where it all meets in one dense super hot place and it then bangs, explodes and that then becomes the start of a new cycle. It then flies off, cools down, turns into atoms and the like, and then becomes galaxies and planets and stars.

We know our galaxy is moving, we know our supercluster is moving. All things are constantly moving, and things are moving towards each other. We know black holes exist, take in energy and don't let it escape. Well, what happens when superclusters all end up at the same place? I'd assume a super massive black hole the mass of millions of galaxies.

And then what happens when ALL THE ENERGY in the universe is in one place?

Where the evidence of what existed before all the energy ended up in once place? Well, it's all in the same place, isn't it? You wouldn't be able to see the light, because it's not light any more. You wouldn't be able to see the radiation either, because it would just be a part of this super hot, super dense thing.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

How can a Nothing have a Beginning?

All of this is too much for your tiny little subhuman minds.

 

[ding]

You're not listening are you? I'm not religious.

The Big Bang has NOT BEEN PROVEN. It's a THEORY.

Now, I'm working on the basis here that the Big Bang happened, but it wasn't the beginning. That all energy goes around in a cycle, it reaches a point where it all meets in one dense super hot place and it then bangs, explodes and that then becomes the start of a new cycle. It then flies off, cools down, turns into atoms and the like, and then becomes galaxies and planets and stars.

We know our galaxy is moving, we know our supercluster is moving. All things are constantly moving, and things are moving towards each other. We know black holes exist, take in energy and don't let it escape. Well, what happens when superclusters all end up at the same place? I'd assume a super massive black hole the mass of millions of galaxies.

And then what happens when ALL THE ENERGY in the universe is in one place?

Where the evidence of what existed before all the energy ended up in once place? Well, it's all in the same place, isn't it? You wouldn't be able to see the light, because it's not light any more. You wouldn't be able to see the radiation either, because it would just be a part of this super hot, super dense thing.

So you don’t like evidence? Because you are certainly acting like you are a religious nut job.

The radiation we so affectionately call the CMB could have only been produced by the creation of the universe from nothing. So says e=mc^2.

And the only possible reason you reject it is because of your religious nut job beliefs.

 

[ding]

I have yet to meet an atheist who accepts the Big Bang. It’s so funny.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So you don’t like evidence? Because you are certainly acting like you are a religious nut job.

The radiation we so affectionately call the CMB could have only been produced by the creation of the universe from nothing. So says e=mc^2.

And the only possible reason you reject it is because of your religious nut job beliefs.

You know, you were on my ignore list, and I unignored you for this post.

Back to the ignore list you go.

Sometimes you need to trust your previous instincts.

Bye again.

 

[ding]

You know, you were on my ignore list, and I unignored you for this post.

Back to the ignore list you go.

Sometimes you need to trust your previous instincts.

Bye again.

You know so little about science.

 

[frigidweirdo]

You know so little about science.

If you have to resort to insults....

Bye

 

[ding]

If you have to resort to insults....

Bye

That wasn’t an insult. That was a statement of fact. You are arguing against mainstream science for no good reason.