Why are we talking about IVF?

[struth]

You think the article was fake and that group didn’t rally against IVF?

Who the f cares if some church is against IVF?

I mean that’s what you are now left hanging your hate on after starting this uninformed OP?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Sure he appointed them. He doesn’t make their decisions or agrues cases in front of them. Duh

It’s perfectly appropriate to refer to abortion bans as Trump abortion bans – Trump appointed the justices who overturned Roe, it’s why the Christo-fascist right supports Trump, Trump is responsible for these reckless, irresponsible bans that jeopardize the health and lives of women and violate the reproductive autonomy of every American.

And now we see the authoritarian right going after the IVF process with more government, bigger government at the expense of individual liberty.

Trump owns the suffering and misery the consequence of abortion bans.

 

[struth]

It’s perfectly appropriate to refer to abortion bans as Trump abortion bans – Trump appointed the justices who overturned Roe, it’s why the Christo-fascist right supports Trump, Trump is responsible for these reckless, irresponsible bans that jeopardize the health and lives of women and violate the reproductive autonomy of every American.

And now we see the authoritarian right going after the IVF process with more government, bigger government at the expense of individual liberty.

Trump owns the suffering and misery the consequence of abortion bans.

Trump didn’t ban any abortions. I mean I get you all are desperate and can’t run on the harris/xiden record so you have to make things up and use fearmongerijg…but anyone with an IQ above 5 knows trump didn’t ban any abortions.

Haha no trump and no GOP govt is going after IVF

Even more silly lies

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Because its a huge issue for young couples trying to start a family.... I know a couple who spent over 40,000 dollars for treatment...

plus all those unused embryos are murdered when they are no longer needed

 

[candycorn]

Haha no they didn’t. It’s perfectly legal in alabama

Stop watching msdnc propaganda, it makes you sound stupid

As with everything else, you're completely misinformed. You sound stupid because you are stupid...and weird.

The Alabama Supreme Court’s Ruling on Frozen Embryos | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

Doctors, patients, and politicians seek answers on how the February 16 decision could impact a wide array of health care issues.

publichealth.jhu.edu

 

[struth]

As with everything else, you're completely misinformed. You sound stupid because you are stupid...and weird.

The Alabama Supreme Court’s Ruling on Frozen Embryos | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

Doctors, patients, and politicians seek answers on how the February 16 decision could impact a wide array of health care issues.

publichealth.jhu.edu

Haha no you are the court said that parents couid sue for wrongful death under the states wrongful death stat.

IVF clinics reacted, as they should and the gop lead state legislature and gov passed a law quickly to ensure those clinics were protected from any civil liability

Nowhere did anyone say IVF was illegal

Try again you uninformed dembot

 

[rampart]

Because its a huge issue for young couples trying to start a family.... I know a couple who spent over 40,000 dollars for treatment...

not exactly. this is an issue because alabama decided that the frozen embryos have a "right" to life and must therefore be implanted, many christians agree and thomas' opinion in dobbs makes contraception and ivf "state matters"

note to your "young couple who desperately want children" if you cant affor 40k for the ivf you sure cant afford to raise an octomom size litter .

 

[struth]

not exactly. this is an issue because alabama decided that the frozen embryos have a "right" to life and must therefore be implanted, many christians agree and thomas' opinion in dobbs makes contraception and ivf "state matters"

note to your "young couple who desperately want children" if you cant affor 40k for the ivf you sure cant afford to raise an octomom size litter .

Once again you are pushing lies and propaganda. The Alabama Supreme Court did not say that.

Why do you lie?

 

[Slade3200]

This thread is about IVP. IVP is perfectly legal and protected in Alabama

I know what the thread is about… I started it. I never claimed it’s illegal in bama. It’s under threat though as groups that want it banned can tie it to abortions and because of Trumps SCOTUS killing Roe, abortion rights are under threat all across the country

 

[Slade3200]

Who the f cares if some church is against IVF?

I mean that’s what you are now left hanging your hate on after starting this uninformed OP?

Haha, no my hats not hanging on one article or group… it was just a simple example of something that you seem to be hiding from. Pull your head out of the sand

 

[Unkotare]

... abortion rights are under threat all across the country

That's a matter for each individual state.

 

[Unkotare]

Tax dollars should never go toward killing the unborn. I'm all for my tax dollars going toward helping couples start families.

 

[struth]

I know what the thread is about… I started it. I never claimed it’s illegal in bama. It’s under threat though as groups that want it banned can tie it to abortions and because of Trumps SCOTUS killing Roe, abortion rights are under threat all across the country

Post number 7 you claimed states were threatening to make it illegal

No state is doing that

You were clueless about what happened in alabama

 

[struth]

Haha, no my hats not hanging on one article or group… it was just a simple example of something that you seem to be hiding from. Pull your head out of the sand

Hiding from? Haha no

I could careless what some church feels about IVF.

What’s more concerning is the misinformation from people like you, where did you get such crazy ideas that states were trying to make it illegal?

 

[Slade3200]

That's a matter for each individual state.

Should slavery and segregation also be left up to the states? Human rights are human rights. Wrong is wrong. This issue goes beyond policy

 

[Slade3200]

Post number 7 you claimed states were threatening to make it illegal

No state is doing that

You were clueless about what happened in alabama

States are making abortions illegal. Courts have determined that embryo disposal is equivalent to abortion. You're damn right IVF is under threat. That’s why Trump is doing his best to cool it down but it is absolutely in the crosshairs. He wouldn’t be talking about it if it wasn’t. And it’s his fault that it’s there

 

[Unkotare]

Should slavery and segregation also be left up to the states? Human rights are human rights. Wrong is wrong. This issue goes beyond policy

Are you equating those things with killing the unborn? Are you that morally bankrupt?

 

[struth]

Should slavery and segregation also be left up to the states? Human rights are human rights. Wrong is wrong. This issue goes beyond policy

There is a constitution amendment banning slavery, and seperate but equal violates the equal protection clause of the US Constitution.

Having access to healhcare is certainly a human right, and we have h access to it in the United States, but it’s up to the govts to regulate healthcare to ensure it’s safe

 

[struth]

States are making abortions illegal. Courts have determined that embryo disposal is equivalent to abortion. You're damn right IVF is under threat. That’s why Trump is doing his best to cool it down but it is absolutely in the crosshairs. He wouldn’t be talking about it if it wasn’t. And it’s his fault that it’s there

But this thread is about IVF, don’t you remember? You started it

 

[Slade3200]

But this thread is about IVF, don’t you remember? You started it

It’s about the trail of chaos created by Trump that led to abortion bans all across the country and now it’s spilling over to an IVF controversy which is why Trump is talking about it and trying to flip the script.