Why are we so quiet about Christianophobia?

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It's a goose/gander thing...

Why are we so quiet about Christianophobia?

By Alan Johnson World Last updated: October 4th, 2013

Algeria.jpeg

A Christian tomb in formerly Christian Algeria

I was sitting in Rupert ShorttÂ’s kitchen interviewing him for Fathom Journal about his book Christianophobia: A Faith Under Attack. When some leading politicians are asked to protest the persecution of Christians in the Middle East, he said, they respond with "Well, if Christians are going to march into these Muslim countries and try to convert them then what do you expect?" Rupert looked at me and shook his head in exasperation. "There is absolutely no sense that most of these societies were Christian long before the rise of Islam."

The historical ignorance matters because in a vast belt of land from Morocco to Pakistan there is scarcely a single country in which Christians can worship entirely without harassment. The recent suicide bomb attack on Christian worshippers at the All Saints Church in the old quarter of Peshawar, Pakistan – around 600 people were eating and playing on the grass after a service when they were ripped to pieces by the two Islamist suicide bombers. 78 people Christians were killed, including 34 women and seven children – was only a spectacular expression of the phenomenon.

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ItÂ’s a toxic mix: among non-believers there is historical ignorance, hierarchies of oppression, postcolonial guilt, and official timidity. On the part of many stoic Christians there is a forbearance and willingness to see virtue in suffering. Perhaps it is time to take the advice of a Jew instead. Silence, said the Auschwitz survivor Elie Wiesel, only encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.

Why are we so quiet about Christianophobia? ? Telegraph Blogs
 
Because we dont make up new words to try to malign people
 
It's a goose/gander thing...

Why are we so quiet about Christianophobia?

Before I was a Christian, I was approach with the question, "How do you know if you are going to heaven?" I was a young kid who didn't have the answers but I didn't want to change but I was scared of answering because I didn't have the answers. In that part, the unknown about what we all don't know scares some people.

I think for the most part, Greek or Hebrew names seem odd to people because they have been westernized. They don't understand or they haven't read the Bible.

Some people hate God and they can't hurt God so we're the nearest thing.
 
It's a goose/gander thing...

Why are we so quiet about Christianophobia?

By Alan Johnson World Last updated: October 4th, 2013

Algeria.jpeg

A Christian tomb in formerly Christian Algeria

I was sitting in Rupert ShorttÂ’s kitchen interviewing him for Fathom Journal about his book Christianophobia: A Faith Under Attack. When some leading politicians are asked to protest the persecution of Christians in the Middle East, he said, they respond with "Well, if Christians are going to march into these Muslim countries and try to convert them then what do you expect?" Rupert looked at me and shook his head in exasperation. "There is absolutely no sense that most of these societies were Christian long before the rise of Islam."

The historical ignorance matters because in a vast belt of land from Morocco to Pakistan there is scarcely a single country in which Christians can worship entirely without harassment. The recent suicide bomb attack on Christian worshippers at the All Saints Church in the old quarter of Peshawar, Pakistan – around 600 people were eating and playing on the grass after a service when they were ripped to pieces by the two Islamist suicide bombers. 78 people Christians were killed, including 34 women and seven children – was only a spectacular expression of the phenomenon.

...

ItÂ’s a toxic mix: among non-believers there is historical ignorance, hierarchies of oppression, postcolonial guilt, and official timidity. On the part of many stoic Christians there is a forbearance and willingness to see virtue in suffering. Perhaps it is time to take the advice of a Jew instead. Silence, said the Auschwitz survivor Elie Wiesel, only encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.

Why are we so quiet about Christianophobia? ? Telegraph Blogs

Most Islam beliefs came from Roman Catholic beliefs, which is a false religion written about in the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation. So neither of these religions or the religion of Judaism has the Truth.
 
Because every collectivist society needs a target. Germany had the Jews, Turkey had the Armenians, Pol Pot had the intelligentsia etc. Just another in a long progression of targets.
 
It's a goose/gander thing...

Why are we so quiet about Christianophobia?

Before I was a Christian, I was approach with the question, "How do you know if you are going to heaven?" I was a young kid who didn't have the answers but I didn't want to change but I was scared of answering because I didn't have the answers. In that part, the unknown about what we all don't know scares some people.

I think for the most part, Greek or Hebrew names seem odd to people because they have been westernized. They don't understand or they haven't read the Bible.

Some people hate God and they can't hurt God so we're the nearest thing.

No one is GOING to heaven. We were all created in the invisible Kingdom of God, which has other names called Heaven, Christ, Son of God, Light, Eternal Life, Breath of Life, Book of Life, Tree of Life, etc.

This means we'll remain in Heaven as our flesh and this world perishes, which means this generation of people will end and a new Heaven and Earth are for our new bodies ( next generation of people ) to experience life in.
 
I don't know the answer to that AJ. Yes, I do know the answer to that, but it is still stunning to watch.
We elected a President twice, that stood up in front of the world and declared that America is not a Christian nation. Then He told us we should examine the role that Islam has played in the forging of America going back to the Revolution. Then he told us Christ is unnecessary, that there are lots of ways to get to Heaven. And we love propaganda. It's not that we are becoming nonreligious, it is that we are becoming every religion but Christianity.
And by the time they finish molding our morals for us, we will be convinced that killing a Christian is doing God a favor.

Worldwide persecution of Christians has risen 300%. And it is going to get much much worse.
It is an end time prophesy. These thing are predicted to occur pending the return of Christ, so at least we have something to look forward to as we watch the world lose it's mind.
 
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Hey... Christians need to understand that, like every other sizable group of humans, they're subject to extremism within their ranks. Muslims and a few others could do well with the same lesson, but I digress.

Damn if it wouldn't be nice if some of these groups would start policing their own when extremism turns to intrusion and violence.

Extremism is the enemy, not God. Being afraid of God is like being afraid of Spiderman.
 
Most Islam beliefs came from Roman Catholic beliefs, which is a false religion written about in the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation.
So neither of these religions or the religion of Judaism has the Truth.

Your logic reminds me of the 70's.
:smoke:
 
I don't know the answer to that AJ. Yes, I do know the answer to that, but it is still stunning to watch.
We elected a President twice, that stood up in front of the world and declared that America is not a Christian nation. Then He told us we should examine the role that Islam has played in the forging of America going back to the Revolution. Then he told us Christ is unnecessary, that there are lots of ways to get to Heaven. And we love propaganda. It's not that we are becoming nonreligious, it is that we are becoming every religion but Christianity.
And by the time they finish molding our morals for us, we will be convinced that killing a Christian is doing God a favor.

Worldwide persecution of Christians has risen 300%. And it is going to get much much worse.
It is an end time prophesy. These thing are predicted to occur pending the return of Christ, so at least we have something to look forward to as we watch the world lose it's mind.

Do you have a link to that speech, Kiddo? That would be an interesting read!
 
Most Islam beliefs came from Roman Catholic beliefs, which is a false religion written about in the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation.
So neither of these religions or the religion of Judaism has the Truth.

Your logic reminds me of the 70's.
:smoke:

I don' speak with logic. I speak every word our Creator puts in His mind for me to speak.

Fools don't understand what a saint is.
 
Because every collectivist society needs a target. Germany had the Jews, Turkey had the Armenians, Pol Pot had the intelligentsia etc. Just another in a long progression of targets.

It goes like this:

Muslims perpetrate a terrorist attack.
Government tells us Muslims are good.
Next government tells us to beware of Christian terrorists even though there have been none.

Obama is trying to destroy this country. This is HIS logic.
 
I don't know the answer to that AJ. Yes, I do know the answer to that, but it is still stunning to watch.
We elected a President twice, that stood up in front of the world and declared that America is not a Christian nation. Then He told us we should examine the role that Islam has played in the forging of America going back to the Revolution. Then he told us Christ is unnecessary, that there are lots of ways to get to Heaven. And we love propaganda. It's not that we are becoming nonreligious, it is that we are becoming every religion but Christianity.
And by the time they finish molding our morals for us, we will be convinced that killing a Christian is doing God a favor.
Worldwide persecution of Christians has risen 300%. And it is going to get much much worse.
It is an end time prophesy. These thing are predicted to occur pending the return of Christ, so at least we have something to look forward to as we watch the world lose it's mind.

There are already people on this very forum who have no qualms about making that exact statement.
 
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We see the persecutors persecuting the very small minority.
 
We see the persecutors persecuting the very small minority.

There is a fairly large community of muslims here considering how small this area is. I do not see them being persecuted. They shop at Wal Mart and Kroger and other places I shop. If anything I see them getting away with things that no one not in muslim garb would get away with. And they do not seek to integrate themselves in the larger community. They don't want our company.

Same at airports. There have been people in islamic dress on every plane I have flown on in the last number of years. I don't recall a one of them getting a shakedown. But I get a shakedown every single time I fly because of my med pump and joint replacements.

I don't think we can consider islamic terrorists a 'small minority.' There are over a billion muslims in the world. 7% of that would be a LOT of people who want us dead. That would come to 70,000,000. That may be a minority within islam, but it is one hell of a lot of people who want us wiped off the earth. And they consider the atheist, those who most frequently jump in and take up for them, to be infidels too.

3,950,000 Muslims in America today. Islam In America - Muslim Population and Growth 7% of that is almost 30,000. Their numbers SHOULD concern us. Yet every single time there is an islamic terrorist attack, the word that comes from our government is to beware of Christians. Here are all the Christian terrorists:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/7127786-post1.html

There are two Mormons who might fit the description, but the rest acted on other agendas, were not Christians, or the case was never solved. It is too bad every time someone decides to hit an abortion clinic Christians get the blame even when the case never gets solved. Muslims do not believe in abortion. Yet, no one ever points the finger at them which would be more logical given their history of violence toward America.

In principle, the Qur'an condemns the killing of humans (except in the case of Just defense), but it does not explicitly mention abortion (Al-Ijhadh). This leads Islamic theologians to take up different viewpoints: while the majority of early Islamic theologians permitted abortion up to day 40 of pregnancy or even up to day 120, many countries today interpret these precepts protecting unborn children more conservatively. Although there is no actual approval of abortion in the world of Islam, there is no strict, unanimous ban on it, either.

Do Muslims believe in abortion? - Yahoo! Answers


^^^Yet it is always Christians who are blamed.

And there is no 'ban' on abortions in the Bible. In fact there is one passage that seems to indicate that keeping a person from being born is doing them a favor. Believing abortion is wrong is also an interpretation within Christianity.


Christians ARE taking a beating in this country and it is because of the hateful rhetoric of our president making accusations where no evidence indicates Christians are terrorists.

There are many little churches in the vale where people go to worship God and fellowship with their friends and relatives. Christians have as much right not to believe in abortion as muslims have.
 
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Most Islam beliefs came from Roman Catholic beliefs, which is a false religion written about in the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation.
So neither of these religions or the religion of Judaism has the Truth.

Your logic reminds me of the 70's.
:smoke:

I don' speak with logic. I speak every word our Creator puts in His mind for me to speak.

Fools don't understand what a saint is.

:party:
 
Hey... Christians need to understand that, like every other sizable group of humans, they're subject to extremism within their ranks. Muslims and a few others could do well with the same lesson, but I digress.

Damn if it wouldn't be nice if some of these groups would start policing their own when extremism turns to intrusion and violence.

Extremism is the enemy, not God. Being afraid of God is like being afraid of Spiderman.

If I had ever pissed off Otto Octavious I'd be very afraid of Spiderman.
 
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