CDZ Why don't American, so called, "feminists" go after the hijab...an actual symbol of oppression....

[2aguy]

So....#metoo....what about #ditchthehijab?

UCF Muslim Student Calls for Expulsion of Student Who Declined To Wear Hijab

Nonetheless, on World Hijab Day non-Muslim women all over the country wore hijabs in solidarity with Muslim women who are supposedly plagued by “Islamophobic” harassment.

But where was their concern for Aqsa Parvez?

Her Muslim father choked her to death with her hijab after she refused to wear it.

Or for Aqsa and Amina Muse Ali, a Christian woman in Somalia whom Muslims murdered because she wasn’t wearing a hijab?

They showed no concern for the 40 women who were murdered in Iraq in 2007 for not wearing the hijab; or for Alya Al-Safar, whose Muslim cousin threatened to kill her and harm her family because she stopped wearing the hijab in Britain; or for Amira Osman Hamid, who faced whipping in Sudan for refusing to wear the hijab; or for the Egyptian girl, also named Amira, who committed suicide after being brutalized by her family for refusing to wear the hijab; or for the Muslim and non-Muslim teachers at the Islamic College of South Australia who were told they had to wear the hijab or be fired; or for the women in Chechnya whom police shot with paintballs because they weren’t wearing hijab; or for the women in Chechnya who were threatened by men with automatic rifles for not wearing hijab; or for the elementary school teachers in Tunisia who were threatened with death for not wearing hijab; or for the Syrian schoolgirls who were forbidden to go to schoolunless they wore hijab; or for the women in Gaza whom Hamas has forced to wear hijab; or for the women in Iran who protested against the regime, even before the recent uprising, by daring to take off their hijabs; or for the women in London whom Muslim thugs threatened to murder if they didn’t wear hijab; or for the anonymous young Muslim woman who doffed her hijab outside her home and started living a double life in fear of her parents; or for the fifteen girls in Saudi Arabia who were killed when the religious police wouldn’t let them leave their burning school building because they had taken off their hijabs in their all-female environment; or for the girl in Italy whose mother shaved her head for not wearing hijab; or for all the other women and girls who have been killed or threatened, or who live in fear for daring not to wear the hijab.

Who is standing in solidarity with them?

Not Western feminists.

 

[Tank]

Only White men will listen to women's complaints, the other races of men are violent to women

 

[Mac1958]

So....#metoo....what about #ditchthehijab?

UCF Muslim Student Calls for Expulsion of Student Who Declined To Wear Hijab

Nonetheless, on World Hijab Day non-Muslim women all over the country wore hijabs in solidarity with Muslim women who are supposedly plagued by “Islamophobic” harassment.

But where was their concern for Aqsa Parvez?

Her Muslim father choked her to death with her hijab after she refused to wear it.

Or for Aqsa and Amina Muse Ali, a Christian woman in Somalia whom Muslims murdered because she wasn’t wearing a hijab?

They showed no concern for the 40 women who were murdered in Iraq in 2007 for not wearing the hijab; or for Alya Al-Safar, whose Muslim cousin threatened to kill her and harm her family because she stopped wearing the hijab in Britain; or for Amira Osman Hamid, who faced whipping in Sudan for refusing to wear the hijab; or for the Egyptian girl, also named Amira, who committed suicide after being brutalized by her family for refusing to wear the hijab; or for the Muslim and non-Muslim teachers at the Islamic College of South Australia who were told they had to wear the hijab or be fired; or for the women in Chechnya whom police shot with paintballs because they weren’t wearing hijab; or for the women in Chechnya who were threatened by men with automatic rifles for not wearing hijab; or for the elementary school teachers in Tunisia who were threatened with death for not wearing hijab; or for the Syrian schoolgirls who were forbidden to go to schoolunless they wore hijab; or for the women in Gaza whom Hamas has forced to wear hijab; or for the women in Iran who protested against the regime, even before the recent uprising, by daring to take off their hijabs; or for the women in London whom Muslim thugs threatened to murder if they didn’t wear hijab; or for the anonymous young Muslim woman who doffed her hijab outside her home and started living a double life in fear of her parents; or for the fifteen girls in Saudi Arabia who were killed when the religious police wouldn’t let them leave their burning school building because they had taken off their hijabs in their all-female environment; or for the girl in Italy whose mother shaved her head for not wearing hijab; or for all the other women and girls who have been killed or threatened, or who live in fear for daring not to wear the hijab.

Who is standing in solidarity with them?

Not Western feminists.

The answer is that Islam is a higher priority on their Oppressed/Oppressor scale than women's rights.

Or gay rights.
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[JoeB131]

The answer is that Islam is a higher priority on their Oppressed/Oppressor scale than women's rights.

Or gay rights.

Yup, shows up right on time.

Here's the thing. It's not our place to dictate their culture.

Now, if they break the laws of this country in this country, I'm all for throwing the book at them.

In their own countries, guess what, that's the culture. Whether it's called a Hijab or an Abaya or a Chador or a Bhurka.

Hey, in this country, it's against the law for a woman to expose her nipples, but not a man. What a bunch of sexists we are!!!

Or we just have a cultural norm that you wouldn't find on, let's say, a French beach.

 

[fncceo]

In their own countries, guess what, that's the culture.

Where is your hesitation to involve yourself in the affairs of other countries when it comes to Israel?

 

[JoeB131]

Where is your hesitation to involve yourself in the affairs of other countries when it comes to Israel?

Oh, you totally miss my point. I'm all for not getting involved in the affairs of the Zionist Entity.

That means stop sending them money.
Stop voting to protect them in the UN
Stop selling them weapons.

That said, the Zionist Entity is a foreign invader, not native people.

 

[fncceo]

the Zionist Entity.

I love that you can't even say the name of the Jewish state.

That kind of Jewish hatred takes real commitment.

 

[JoeB131]

the Zionist Entity.

I love that you can't even say the name of the Jewish state.

That kind of Jewish hatred takes real commitment.

Yes, I know that upsets you guys...

 

[fncceo]

Yes, I know that upsets you guys...

English isn't your first language, so I'll forgive you for confusing the words 'upsets' and 'amuses'.

It's a natural mistake.

 

[JoeB131]

English isn't your first language, so I'll forgive you for confusing the words 'upsets' and 'amuses'.

It's a natural mistake.

Pretty sure English is my first language.

You might want to check out the CDZ rules on personal attacks, though.

 

[Mac1958]

the Zionist Entity.

I love that you can't even say the name of the Jewish state. That kind of Jewish hatred takes real commitment.

The Regressives have chosen their side. They will defend this religion (religion!) no matter what, and that includes spinning, deflecting and attacking for its darkest elements. Without shame or guilt or a second thought.
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[JoeB131]

The Regressives have chosen their side. They will defend this religion (religion!) no matter what, and that includes spinning, deflecting and attacking for its darkest elements. Without shame or guilt or a second thought.

No, as I've explained to you numerous times, our problem with that region isn't their "religion", it's our policies.

Back in the 1970's, all our "enemies" over there were Secularist, pro-Soviet Nationalists, and we had the same idiotic policies.

One of those policies being supporting the Zionist Entity no matter what it does.

The others being propping up awful regimes, invading countries with regimes we don't like and arming bad guys who are going to fight regimes we don't like, acting all surprised when they turn on us.

To me, and suspect a lot (but not enough) progressives, the issue is a bad interventionist policy that creates the very problems we complain about.

More to the point, though, is that there really isn't enough daylight between the left and right on this issue. Obama got elected complaining about the war in Iraq, then he started new wars in Yemen, Syria and Libya. (I suspect that was a bigger reason why Hillary lost than 'Political Correctness"). He barely pushed the Zionists on peace, and Nutenyahoo came here like he owned the place.

Not to worry, though. When somebody commits an act of terror because we either armed him or bombed him, we can count on the usual suspects to say, "See... see.. see how backwards their religion is!"

 

[Mac1958]

The Regressives have chosen their side. They will defend this religion (religion!) no matter what, and that includes spinning, deflecting and attacking for its darkest elements. Without shame or guilt or a second thought.

No, as I've explained to you numerous times, our problem with that region isn't their "religion", it's our policies.

Back in the 1970's, all our "enemies" over there were Secularist, pro-Soviet Nationalists, and we had the same idiotic policies.

One of those policies being supporting the Zionist Entity no matter what it does.

The others being propping up awful regimes, invading countries with regimes we don't like and arming bad guys who are going to fight regimes we don't like, acting all surprised when they turn on us.

To me, and suspect a lot (but not enough) progressives, the issue is a bad interventionist policy that creates the very problems we complain about.

More to the point, though, is that there really isn't enough daylight between the left and right on this issue. Obama got elected complaining about the war in Iraq, then he started new wars in Yemen, Syria and Libya. (I suspect that was a bigger reason why Hillary lost than 'Political Correctness"). He barely pushed the Zionists on peace, and Nutenyahoo came here like he owned the place.

Not to worry, though. When somebody commits an act of terror because we either armed him or bombed him, we can count on the usual suspects to say, "See... see.. see how backwards their religion is!"

See?
.

 

[JoeB131]

See?

That you still can't debate the issue?

Yes. Yes, everyone sees that.

 

[rightwinger]

Right now, feminists are going after asshole men who can't keep their hands to themselves

Hijabs are not their problem

 

[Mac1958]

Hijabs are not their problem

Hijabs are a symbol, and everyone knows it. We can ignore that, or we can just admit it.
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[TroglocratsRdumb]

The Left Wingers constantly prove that they don't have any real principles.

 

[JoeB131]

Hijabs are a symbol, and everyone knows it. We can ignore that, or we can just admit it.

Okay, but a symbol of what?

It seems to me that the only folks I see getting upset about hijabs are Islamophobes.

Oh wait, no,t hat was a Polish Lady wearing a babushka.

 

[Mac1958]

The Left Wingers constantly prove that they don't have any real principles.

They've made their decision, they can live with it: Spin, deflect and attack for their pet constituent oppressed religion.
.

 

[gipper]

The answer is that Islam is a higher priority on their Oppressed/Oppressor scale than women's rights.

Or gay rights.

Yup, shows up right on time.

Here's the thing. It's not our place to dictate their culture.

Now, if they break the laws of this country in this country, I'm all for throwing the book at them.

In their own countries, guess what, that's the culture. Whether it's called a Hijab or an Abaya or a Chador or a Bhurka.

Hey, in this country, it's against the law for a woman to expose her nipples, but not a man. What a bunch of sexists we are!!!

Or we just have a cultural norm that you wouldn't find on, let's say, a French beach.

Hey Joey there are plenty of women in the USA wearing the hijab. What makes you think this debate only applies to Muslim nation’s?