Why are the Trumpsters so hung up on BLM?

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Look at the way they just ignore that ever-growing list of quotes, including Trump pretending not to know who David Duke is.

Internet anonymity emboldens cowards. Gaslighting is their way of living out their nasty fantasies without fear of repercussions.

Talk radio has convinced them they're in a "war", so that gives them license to lie and distort all they want.

Precisely.

And again, on the other side of this fucked up ledger, we have the illiberal leftist authoritarians who go out of their way to give the Trumpsters all the material they need to keep themselves and each other angry, ignorant and paranoid.

It's the nutters on both whacked out ends vs. the rest of us. We'll see.

Yeah, whenever I have the audacity to tell a regressive to mind their own business, I'm suddenly a harbinger of the Third Reich.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Laters........I've had enough of this chump BAIT THREAD.

Have a nice day.

 

[Shelzin]

Your 'war' is with a TeeVee screen.

RNC and DNC also.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Your 'war' is with a TeeVee screen.

RNC and DNC also.

Yes, they are on the TeeVee as well.

 

[LuckyDuck]

They sure do attack that group a lot. Looks like they're trying to make anyone who is against white nationalism a member or supporter of the group.

Do they know that the phrase and the group are not necessarily the same things? Who knows.

My assumption is that they want to use the group BLM as the boogeyman so that they don't have to examine their own role in our race issues.

1. The BLM movement leaders have recently come out and said that they are Marxists. They have been found to be affiliated with RevComUSA, a Marxist/Leninist-Communist group. Communism's goal has always been to overthrow non-Communist nations and implant one-party, authoritarian politburo rule. The US has always believed that people should have their freedoms and liberties. Thus, communism is the enemy and always has been.
2. I'm still waiting for those that claim the Trump Administration and Trump in particular has said anything racist, or adopted racist policies. But, before you begin, remember this, for those that said that the people who were illegally coming over our southern border, were rapists and murderers and drug cartel members.....his actual statement can be seen where he is saying "SOME" of the people coming over the border illegally are rapists, murderers, and drug cartel members. THAT is simply a statement of fact, proven by arrests. For those that said the president banned all Muslims from coming in...that too is false. In light of the terrorist activities both here and abroad, he initially stated that we should ban those coming from Islamic countries, "UNTIL" we could sort out the matter....then revised his stance to reflect only those nations which Obama considered banning from entry...nations from which the people could not be validated as unlikely to be terrorists due to government instability.
Now, let's hear about all those racist things Trump has done as president.

 

[Godboy]

Spin it all you want. The GOP abolished slavery and fought Jim Crow Laws. The Dems are still trying to keep blacks as an under class. Why you STILL support them is pretty sad.

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Were they the conservatives of the time, yes or no?

Its a very straightforward and easy question.

No, they were not the conservatives of their time.

Tax rates were much lower back then. They wouldnt like todays 20%+ tax rates. They were patriotic too, and religious. Id say they are very much the same as conservatives of today.

 

[Mac1958]

They sure do attack that group a lot. Looks like they're trying to make anyone who is against white nationalism a member or supporter of the group.

Do they know that the phrase and the group are not necessarily the same things? Who knows.

My assumption is that they want to use the group BLM as the boogeyman so that they don't have to examine their own role in our race issues.

1. The BLM movement leaders have recently come out and said that they are Marxists. They have been found to be affiliated with RevComUSA, a Marxist/Leninist-Communist group. Communism's goal has always been to overthrow non-Communist nations and implant one-party, authoritarian politburo rule. The US has always believed that people should have their freedoms and liberties. Thus, communism is the enemy and always has been.
2. I'm still waiting for those that claim the Trump Administration and Trump in particular has said anything racist, or adopted racist policies. But, before you begin, remember this, for those that said that the people who were illegally coming over our southern border, were rapists and murderers and drug cartel members.....his actual statement can be seen where he is saying "SOME" of the people coming over the border illegally are rapists, murderers, and drug cartel members. THAT is simply a statement of fact, proven by arrests. For those that said the president banned all Muslims from coming in...that too is false. In light of the terrorist activities both here and abroad, he initially stated that we should ban those coming from Islamic countries, "UNTIL" we could sort out the matter....then revised his stance to reflect only those nations which Obama considered banning from entry...nations from which the people could not be validated as unlikely to be terrorists due to government instability.
Now, let's hear about all those racist things Trump has done as president.

My point is that BLM is just one group, and that they are simply a recent addition to a long-standing issue.

I'm not aware of Trump saying "anything racist, or adopted racist policies". I am, however, quite aware that (a) he pretended to not know who David Duke was when he was trying to keep his base happy, (b) has shown absolutely zero (0) indication that he understands or cares about the experiences, concerns or perspectives of minorities, and (c) has only adopted a one-sided stance on the protests, and (d) is passionately supported by a wide range of white nationalists, white separatists and white supremacists, and that is obviously not just a coincidence.

I answered your question, and your response will be to dismiss and/or deny my points. Another group who passionately supports Trump are the people who enable white racism by refusing to hold their own side accountable. My guess is you are, at best, one of that group.

 

[B. Kidd]

They sure do attack that group a lot. Looks like they're trying to make anyone who is against white nationalism a member or supporter of the group.

Do they know that the phrase and the group are not necessarily the same things? Who knows.

My assumption is that they want to use the group BLM as the boogeyman so that they don't have to examine their own role in our race issues.

BLM is a Maduro-type Marxist thug group with the aim of turning the USA into Venezuela.
It's nothing but a Commie contrived smokescreen! And the sooner that Americans get hip to this, the better off we'll be!!

 

[B. Kidd]

Last week a Venezuelan anti-Maduro activist said in a TV interview that U.S. cancel culture activities and statue take-downs are similar to what Chavez did in displacing Venezuela from free market prosperity to Marxist poverty within 10 years!
And, besides smart, she is pretty too!

 

[MarcATL]

How in the hell would I know what someone who died over 100 years ago was like? GD you're stupid.

OK. LoL!!!

 

[MarcATL]

Welll..is only fair to list some White domestic terror groups, right? You know..like the 3%ers and the Proud Boys?

Oh wait I found a few more!

• 11th Hour Remnant Messenger was a group founded by two wealthy retired entrepreneurs who believed that whites were the true biblical Israelites.
• American Renaissance, is a "race realist and white advocacy website", formerly a monthly magazine, published by the New Century Foundation.
• American Freedom Party, formerly known as the American Third Position Party, is an American political party which promotes white supremacy.[12][13][14][15] It was founded in 2010, and it defines its principal mission as representing the political interests of white Americans.[16]
• American Nazi Party, is an antisemitic, neo-Nazi organization based largely upon the ideals and policies of Adolf Hitler's NSDAP in Germany during the era of the Third Reich. It also supports Holocaust denial.
• Aryan Brotherhood of Texas is, according to the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center, one of the largest and most violent white supremacist prison gangs in the United States, responsible for murders and other violent crimes.[17][18]
• Aryan Republican Army was a white nationalist terrorist organization.
• Aryan Nations, is a white supremacist neo-Nazi organization founded in the 1970s by Richard Girnt Butler as an arm of the Christian Identity group known as the Church of Jesus Christ-Christian. The Federal Bureau of Investigation has called Aryan Nations a "terrorist threat",[19] and the RAND Corporation has called it the "first truly nationwide terrorist network" in the US.[20]
• Asatru Folk Assembly, part of the racist ("folkish") branch of the Heathenry movement.[21]
• Atomwaffen Division, a Neo-Nazi terrorist organisation.
• Council of Conservative Citizens, is an American political organization that supports a large variety of conservative and paleoconservative causes in addition to white separatism.[22]
• Creativity Alliance, (formerly known as the World Church of the Creator) is a white supremacist political organization that advocates the racialist religion, Creativity. Mainly religious rather than political, the radical Creativity Alliance or Church of Creativity, founded by Ben Klassen in 1973, worships the white race itself rather than any deity, and advocates a radical form of white supremacism known as RAHOWA.
• EURO, is a white separatist organization in the United States. Led by former Louisiana state representative, presidential primary candidate and Grand Wizard of the KKK David Duke, it was founded in 2000.[23][24]
• Hammerskins, also known as Hammerskin Nation, are a white supremacist group formed in 1988 in Dallas, Texas. Their primary focus is the production and promotion of white power rock music, and many white power bands have been affiliated with the group.
• Identity Evropa is an American neo-Nazi and white supremacist organization established in March 2016.
• Ku Klux Klan, often abbreviated KKK and informally known as The Klan, is the name of three distinct past and present [25] organizations in the United States, which have advocated extremist reactionary currents such as white supremacy and nationalism. The Klan is classified as a hate group by the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center.[26] It is estimated to have between 5,000 and 8,000 members, split among dozens of different organizations that use the Klan name as of 2012.[27]
• National Alliance, is a white supremacist political organization. It was founded by William Luther Pierce, and is based in the Pierce family's compound in Hillsboro, West Virginia.
• National Association for the Advancement of White People, was a white supremacist organization in the United States incorporated on December 14, 1953 in Delaware by Bryant Bowles which presents itself as a civil rights organization such as the NAACP.
• National Policy Institute, is a think tank based in Augusta, Georgia in the United States. It describes itself as the right's answer to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
• National Socialist Movement (United States), a party founded in 1974. Since 2005 the party has become very active, staging many marches and demonstrations.
• National Vanguard, was an American National Socialist organization based in Charlottesville, Virginia, founded by Kevin Alfred Strom and former members of the National Alliance.
• Nationalist Movement, is a Mississippi-based, white supremacist organization that advocates what it calls a "pro-majority" position. It has been called white supremacist by the Associated Press and Anti-Defamation League, among others.[28][29]
• Occidental Quarterly, is a printed far-right quarterly journal with a web segment, TOQ Online, including interviews, essays and reviews on the website.[30]
• The Order, or Brüder Schweigen ("Silent Brotherhood") was a white supremacist Revolutionary organization founded by Robert Jay Mathews, active 1983-1984, probably best known for the 1984 murder of talk show host Alan Berg. Berg's killing was to be the first in a planned series of assassinations, followed by attacks on the United States government, all meant to bring about a race war which would result in fulfillment of White Separatist ideals (see Northwest Territorial Imperative).
• Pacifica Forum, is a controversial discussion group in Eugene, Oregon, United States. It has been listed as a white nationalist[31] hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).
• Patriot Front is a neo-fascist american nationalist group and an offshoot of Vanguard America[32][33][34]
• Phineas Priesthood, is a Christian Identity movement that opposes interracial intercourse, the mixing of races, homosexuality, and abortion. It is also marked by its anti-Semitism, anti-multiculturalism, and opposition to taxation.
• Pioneer Fund, a white supremacist non-profit that funds scientific racism research.
• Volksfront, describes itself as an international fraternal organization for persons of European descent.[35] It has been called "neo-Nazi" and a "racist-skinhead group" in press reports.[36][37][38] The Anti-Defamation League has called the group "one of the most active skinhead groups in the United States."[39] The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has added Volksfront to its list of hate groups.[40]
• White America, Inc., a group founded in Arkansas to prevent racial desegregation of the state's schools.[41]
• White Aryan Resistance, is a neo-Nazi white supremacist organization founded and led by former Ku Klux Klan leader Tom Metzger.[42]

But we don't have any racist whites today, remember???!???

Not to any significant degree that is.

 

[MarcATL]

What do you mean, I want to deflect?

I replied to your question straight up in my first sentence, and let me repeat it, since you didn't pay attention to it: "Because they (BLM) are full of shit filled with fake outrage over almost fake incident." Got it?

What's an "ALMOST fake incident?"

 

[Cellblock2429]

They sure do attack that group a lot. Looks like they're trying to make anyone who is against white nationalism a member or supporter of the group.

Do they know that the phrase and the group are not necessarily the same things? Who knows.

My assumption is that they want to use the group BLM as the boogeyman so that they don't have to examine their own role in our race issues.

/——/ “so that they don't have to examine their own role in our race issues.”
Yeah, like freeing the slaves and getting VRA and CRA passed over objections of democRATs.

You didn't do any of those things. Why are you taking credit for them?

/—-/ Ask your Special Ed teacher for a history book, you big dope.

So, you don't have anything but a ***** boi snarky reply, of course. You have your whole life to be an ass. Why not take a day off every once in a while?

/—-/ As it has been posted over and over: Republican Party founded

The filibuster that almost killed the Civil Rights Act | Constitution Center

On this day in 1964, the Senate was involved in an epic fight over the Civil Right Act, after a group of Southern senators started a record-setting filibuster in March.

constitutioncenter.org

 

[Shelzin]

is passionately supported by a wide range of white nationalists, white separatists and white supremacists, and that is obviously not just a coincidence.

Umm... This thread is called "Why are the Trumpsters so hung up on BLM"... Made by you. Now I've said it in the past, and I absolutely stand by it... You are a good egg. But... This ... was a mistake.

If you don't want them to hold the Left accountable for the actions of BLM, perhaps you should also extend that same thinking.

Or... Is my brain still too foggy?

."

 

[LuckyDuck]

They sure do attack that group a lot. Looks like they're trying to make anyone who is against white nationalism a member or supporter of the group.

Do they know that the phrase and the group are not necessarily the same things? Who knows.

My assumption is that they want to use the group BLM as the boogeyman so that they don't have to examine their own role in our race issues.

1. The BLM movement leaders have recently come out and said that they are Marxists. They have been found to be affiliated with RevComUSA, a Marxist/Leninist-Communist group. Communism's goal has always been to overthrow non-Communist nations and implant one-party, authoritarian politburo rule. The US has always believed that people should have their freedoms and liberties. Thus, communism is the enemy and always has been.
2. I'm still waiting for those that claim the Trump Administration and Trump in particular has said anything racist, or adopted racist policies. But, before you begin, remember this, for those that said that the people who were illegally coming over our southern border, were rapists and murderers and drug cartel members.....his actual statement can be seen where he is saying "SOME" of the people coming over the border illegally are rapists, murderers, and drug cartel members. THAT is simply a statement of fact, proven by arrests. For those that said the president banned all Muslims from coming in...that too is false. In light of the terrorist activities both here and abroad, he initially stated that we should ban those coming from Islamic countries, "UNTIL" we could sort out the matter....then revised his stance to reflect only those nations which Obama considered banning from entry...nations from which the people could not be validated as unlikely to be terrorists due to government instability.
Now, let's hear about all those racist things Trump has done as president.

My point is that BLM is just one group, and that they are simply a recent addition to a long-standing issue.

I'm not aware of Trump saying "anything racist, or adopted racist policies". I am, however, quite aware that (a) he pretended to not know who David Duke was when he was trying to keep his base happy, (b) has shown absolutely zero (0) indication that he understands or cares about the experiences, concerns or perspectives of minorities, and (c) has only adopted a one-sided stance on the protests, and (d) is passionately supported by a wide range of white nationalists, white separatists and white supremacists, and that is obviously not just a coincidence.

I answered your question, and your response will be to dismiss and/or deny my points. Another group who passionately supports Trump are the people who enable white racism by refusing to hold their own side accountable. My guess is you are, at best, one of that group.

Whether Trump knew of David Duke is irrelevant. He grew up with a golden-spoon in his mouth and staff to watch over him. So, what he knew of knows of Duke is irrelevant. He has, on multiple occasions however, publicly said that he is against white supremacists...that's about all he can do on that. Oh, yeah. He used to be a Democrat. He has shown absolutely zero interest in minorities? Hmm, if you go online to Washington Post's 93 page list of Trump's charitable donations, you will find a mixture of donations from the arts, to Democratic causes (i.e., William Clinton Foundation) and to those agencies that help the less fortunate. He also signed an Executive Order that created Opportunity Zones in the inner-cities, which, before this pandemic mess occurred, blacks admitted was helping their areas. He also signed in an Executive Order creating the "First-Step Program" for inmates. Trump's only complaint is with those that DON'T PROTEST PEACEFULLY! The Constitution only allows only for "peaceful protest." Violent protests are crimes. They damage property, the owners of which have had nothing to do with George Floyd. And, for that matter, violence in general has nothing to do with George Floyd. These violent protests and protests in general, DO NOT FALL UNDER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S JURISDICTION! All such matters are the responsibility of city, county and state governments.
You and others need to stop saying...:"white nationalists." You are deliberately trying to make it sound as if being proud of the US, is somehow racist. It isn't. Being a nationalist isn't a race. It's being pro-(fill in any country's name here). In this nation's case, it's being pro-USA and there are plenty of blacks, whites, Asians and Hispanics that believe in this nation and having borders, with border patrols, customs and ICE, to try and ensure that whoever wants in, is vetted to reduce the likelihood of those coming in, creating criminal activity here. We have enough of our own criminals and don't need more coming in. We, unlike yourself, aren't George Soros, no borders, Free Movement of Peoples, puppets. FDR, a Democrat was a nationalist, Gandhi was a nationalist, Mao Zedong, was a nationalist, Stalin was a nationalist, JFK, a Democrat was a nationalist, et cetera. It just means that they believed in having a nation with borders and supporting the nation. So, stop with the nonsense that being a nationalist is not only somehow bad, but somehow white supremacy. It's pro-country, regardless of race.
Last, Trump has NEVER supported white supremacists. He supports the country in general. But, he expects law and order.

 

[Mac1958]

is passionately supported by a wide range of white nationalists, white separatists and white supremacists, and that is obviously not just a coincidence.

Umm... This thread is called "Why are the Trumpsters so hung up on BLM"... Made by you. Now I've said it in the past, and I absolutely stand by it... You are a good egg. But... This ... was a mistake.

If you don't want them to hold the Left accountable for the actions of BLM, perhaps you should also extend that same thinking.

Or... Is my brain still too foggy?

."

What I want is for the Trumpsters to hold the RIGHT -- it's own side -- accountable for the clear white racism that still exists in this country. All I see them doing right now is deflecting, denying, distorting and downplaying.

What I also want is the Left to hold ITS own side accountable for the way it has weaponized PC and Identity Politics and enabled Black Americans' worst behaviors by coddling them and lowering standards for a couple of generations now.

Both sides just feed into the other. THAT'S the race problem as I see it.

 

[B. Kidd]

is passionately supported by a wide range of white nationalists, white separatists and white supremacists, and that is obviously not just a coincidence.

Umm... This thread is called "Why are the Trumpsters so hung up on BLM"... Made by you. Now I've said it in the past, and I absolutely stand by it... You are a good egg. But... This ... was a mistake.

If you don't want them to hold the Left accountable for the actions of BLM, perhaps you should also extend that same thinking.

Or... Is my brain still too foggy?

."

What I want is for the Trumpsters to hold the RIGHT -- it's own side -- accountable for the clear white racism that still exists in this country. All I see them doing right now is deflecting, denying, distorting and downplaying.

What I also want is the Left to hold ITS own side accountable for the way it has weaponized PC and Identity Politics and enabled Black Americans' worst behaviors by coddling them and lowering standards for a couple of generations now.

Both sides just feed into the other. THAT'S the race problem as I see it.

That's always your final conclusion...both sides....both sides....both sides; you Commie **********!!!

 

[lantern2814]

Every leftist here can now be called a RACIST! Supporting a group whose NYC “leader”(this ***** gets in any real man’s face and he’ll be eating pavement) has said they want NO white people in “their” city, has threatened violence if they don’t get their way, and encourages attacking cops. We take offense to YOUR group’s attacking the elderly, attacking cops, and destroying property. You don’t like it? Too f’n bad snowflake.

 

[Shelzin]

is passionately supported by a wide range of white nationalists, white separatists and white supremacists, and that is obviously not just a coincidence.

Umm... This thread is called "Why are the Trumpsters so hung up on BLM"... Made by you. Now I've said it in the past, and I absolutely stand by it... You are a good egg. But... This ... was a mistake.

If you don't want them to hold the Left accountable for the actions of BLM, perhaps you should also extend that same thinking.

Or... Is my brain still too foggy?

."

What I want is for the Trumpsters to hold the RIGHT -- it's own side -- accountable for the clear white racism that still exists in this country. All I see them doing right now is deflecting, denying, distorting and downplaying.

What I also want is the Left to hold ITS own side accountable for the way it has weaponized PC and Identity Politics and enabled Black Americans' worst behaviors by coddling them and lowering standards for a couple of generations now.

Both sides just feed into the other. THAT'S the race problem as I see it.

Ahhh good. All is right with my world again.

Side note... Maybe it's Covid still, but I had to google who David... Um.. Whatever his name is. I didn't know who he was either. I don't know if that means anything to the topic, things are getting hard to follow. And my give a shit seems to be going down by the hour. Can you guys like pause this topic until... I dont' know... maybe Tuesday? I don't seem to be getting worse, but I'm not getting any better the last three days either. I figure that'll be a good upswing day.

 

[LuckyDuck]

They sure do attack that group a lot. Looks like they're trying to make anyone who is against white nationalism a member or supporter of the group.

Do they know that the phrase and the group are not necessarily the same things? Who knows.

My assumption is that they want to use the group BLM as the boogeyman so that they don't have to examine their own role in our race issues.

BLM is a Maduro-type Marxist thug group with the aim of turning the USA into Venezuela.
It's nothing but a Commie contrived smokescreen! And the sooner that Americans get hip to this, the better off we'll be!!

Yeah. If you look at examples of the rioters and statue destroyers being arrested, they look like a combination of adults that live in their mommies and daddies basements, sucking off them, because they've always been too lazy to get out of the basement and get a job and thus like the idea that the Democratic Party put forth of, "even if you don't want to work, we'll give you an income." Simply put, those are worthless sponges. The others, well they appear to be drug addled losers, mixed with a few angry blacks actually believing that they are victims, yet are actually, just criminals who believe that they should be able to not be arrested for their criminal behavior.