Why Are The Left Fine With The Vaccinated Spreading Covid To Others?

[meaner gene]

When the most vaccinated countries on the planet are experiencing surges then why do the left think if we get to the same vaccination percentage as those countries, our cases will no longer be surging? Where is the science that shows if we hit the same vaccination rate as the highest vaccinated countries in the world and their cases are surging, our cases will decline instead?

Good point. The delta variant pushed the vaccination percentage from 70% to 85% required to halt the pandemic.

 

[meaner gene]

Where did you get the idea we are ok with it?

It's just like when the said the democrats were O.K. with the riots, because they didn't take to the streets to protest them.

 

[Independent thinker]

This is a lie – they’re not.

Which is why the ‘left’ also advocates for wearing masks and social distancing, along with other health and safety measures.

Masks are only 10% effective. Social distancing really isn't needed outdoors and is close to worthless indoors. Why are the left fine with 80,000 fully vaccinated people going to a football stadium when it is proven that vaccinated people spread the virus?

 

[Independent thinker]

The Hospitals are only full of un-vaccinated idiots! Vaccinated are not clogging them up, so they can do as they wish!

Vaccinated people are spreading the virus to children under 12 and they are going to hospitals. Why are you OK with that?

 

[Independent thinker]

Wrong.

A vaccinated person who wears a mask is prevented from spreading the virus to others.

One wears as mask to protect others, not himself.

Doing something to the benefit others is clearly foreign to the selfish, self-centered right.

The kind of masks most people wear are only 10% effective. And, vaccinated spread the virus. So, why have a football stadium filled with 80,000 vaccinated fans, spreading the virus, causing children under 12 to be hospitalized? Doing something to the benefit others is clearly foreign to the selfish, self-centered left.

 

[meaner gene]

Because the left have no plans to stop the vaccinated from spreading the virus. In fact, they are perfectly fine with a football stadium filled with 80,000 fully vaccinated people spreading the virus. Just keep those damned unvaccinated out.

You miss the key point of that. It's like the difference between something being fire retardant (like the vaccinated) vs untreated objects (unvaccinated)

It takes a much bigger fire to light the former, and they simultaneously slow down the spread of the fire.

 

[meaner gene]

Social distancing isn't really needed outside and is pretty worthless inside.

This is where you're absolutely wrong. Six feet, whether inside or out, is the safe distance for COVID globules, the primary cause of person to person spread. (over 50%)

 

[Independent thinker]

Good point. The delta variant pushed the vaccination percentage from 70% to 85% required to halt the pandemic.

But countries such as Israel and Iceland are at around 85% and their cases are not only increasing, they are SURGING. Experts have said herd immunity is not possible with the Delta variant. Why do you deny science and refuse to listen to the experts? Why continue peddling lies that fly in the face of science and the experts?

Herd immunity ‘not a possibility’ with Delta variant

Head of Oxford Vaccine Group says vaccination won’t stop spread altogether.

www.politico.eu

Here he says that herd immunity isn't even possible at 95%!

 

[meaner gene]

If people have had a regular flu shot,their COVID symptoms can be minimized to the same extent as a vax’d individual. The mandate is nothing more than seeing how far people can be pushed until they comply with the government.

I can't imagine what communist country is paying you to spread such propaganda.

 

[surada]

Where did you get the idea we are ok with it?

She's brain dead.

 

[meaner gene]

And, the most highly vaccinated countries on the planet are not only experiencing increased cases, cases are SURGING.

That's because the conditions on the ground have changed. The alpha strain needed 70% vaccinations, compared to the delta strain needing 85% vaccinations to halt the pandemic.

 

[meaner gene]

But countries such as Israel and Iceland are at around 85% and their cases are not only increasing, they are SURGING.

They haven't hit 85% yet. And that's of the general population, not just vaccine eligible.

So they continue to surge, because they're not even close to the percentage necessary to stop the delta variant.

 

[Independent thinker]

This is where you're absolutely wrong. Six feet, whether inside or out, is the safe distance for COVID globules, the primary cause of person to person spread. (over 50%)

Wrong

Officials Finally Admit 'Social Distancing' Doesn't Work, Either - Headline Health

Aug 27, 2020 Washington Post – Public health experts are reevaluating guidelines for safe social distancing amid growing evidence that the novel coronavirus can travel farther than six feet under some conditions. A team of infectious-disease experts argues in a new analysis, published this week...

headlinehealth.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/04/27/mit-study-indoor-transmission-airborne/

 

[BlueGin]

I can't imagine what communist country is paying you to spread such propaganda.

Again. Why do democrats never know anything?

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview

COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.

www.webmd.com

 

[Independent thinker]

They haven't hit 85% yet. And that's of the general population, not just vaccine eligible.

So they continue to surge, because they're not even close to the percentage necessary to stop the delta variant.

Herd immunity ‘not a possibility’ with Delta variant

Head of Oxford Vaccine Group says vaccination won’t stop spread altogether.

www.politico.eu

Pollard, who was involved in the development of the Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine, told the U.K.'s All-Party Parliamentary Group on coronavirus that, unlike measles — where 95 percent vaccination of the population would stop transmission — the same couldn’t be said for coronavirus spread by the Delta variants.

Are you still going to deny the science and not listen to the experts?

 

[meaner gene]

Wrong

Officials Finally Admit 'Social Distancing' Doesn't Work, Either - Headline Health

Aug 27, 2020 Washington Post – Public health experts are reevaluating guidelines for safe social distancing amid growing evidence that the novel coronavirus can travel farther than six feet under some conditions. A team of infectious-disease experts argues in a new analysis, published this week...

headlinehealth.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/04/27/mit-study-indoor-transmission-airborne/

Your argument is that the minimum safe distance should be increased beyond 6 feet, not that 6 feet is effective enough to stop 50% of COVID spread.

This is where the perfect should not be the enemy of the good.

 

[meaner gene]

Again. Why do democrats never know anything?

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview

COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.

www.webmd.com

That's absolutely FUNNY.

That you would clutch onto a vaccine not designed to protect against COVID, and reject the vaccine specifically designed to protect against COVID.

 

[BlueGin]

That's absolutely FUNNY.

That you would clutch onto a vaccine not designed to protect against COVID, and reject the vaccine specifically designed to protect against COVID.

They basically do the same thing. Difference is the flu shot is safer. And Ive already had the flu shot.

 

[meaner gene]

Pollard, who was involved in the development of the Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine, told the U.K.'s All-Party Parliamentary Group on coronavirus that, unlike measles — where 95 percent vaccination of the population would stop transmission — the same couldn’t be said for coronavirus spread by the Delta variants.

Measles - 95%
Delta variant - 85%
Alplha variant - 70%

Different diseases need different vaccination levels of the population, due to difference in communicability (R0)

 

[meaner gene]

That's absolutely FUNNY.

That you would clutch onto a vaccine not designed to protect against COVID, and reject the vaccine specifically designed to protect against COVID.

They basically do the same thing. Difference is the flu shot is safer. And Ive already had the flu shot.

Are you clueless? Even though you can use the wrong tool to fix something, the tool designed for the job is many times better, faster and more efficient.

88 died after taking flu shot but most causes remain unclear

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