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Clearly, they are not as free as we are. In Germany, France and Belgium you can go to prison for expressing certain political opinions whereas in the US these extremists can get permits to march through the city. Until recently, it was a crime to insult the French President. If we had suc restrictive laws, the entire Democratic Party would be in prison today.Canada is free. As is the U.K., Germany, France, Belgium, Japan, Italy, Australia. Do they have as many crazy people per capita as we?We are freer, and with freedom come risks.Guns are the American madman's outil de choix as the French say. The tool of choice.The Democrats have already explained this to you: people don't commit mass murders, guns do.Are Americans crazier than the rest of the industrialized world? We have more mass murders, therefore we must be crazier. Or so the specious logic goes.
I ask again, are Americans crazier than other societies?
I can’t remember.How many people with Alzheimer's disease have committed mass murder?
No!Are Americans crazier than the rest of the industrialized world?
Read # 52. There's the answer.We have more mass murders, therefore we must be crazier. Or so the specious logic goes.
You are not "freer". The U.S. hasn't a thimble-full of freedom compared to most of Europe.We are freer, and with freedom come risks.
Precisely. The crux is that all of the nations you mention not only have more freedom than the U.S. but they also have more "rights". Combine those two (a superior Democracy, in a word) and you can see that:Canada is free. As is the U.K., Germany, France, Belgium, Japan, Italy, Australia. Do they have as many crazy people per capita as we?We are freer, and with freedom come risks.Guns are the American madman's outil de choix as the French say. The tool of choice.The Democrats have already explained this to you: people don't commit mass murders, guns do.Are Americans crazier than the rest of the industrialized world? We have more mass murders, therefore we must be crazier. Or so the specious logic goes.
I ask again, are Americans crazier than other societies?
Why are Progressives afraid to address MENTAL ILLNESS AND MASS MURDER?
Is the Mental Illness lobby preventing Progressives from addressing the REAL CAUSE OF MASS MURDER?
POSTED ON AUGUST 7, 2019 BY PAUL MIRENGOFF IN CRIME, FIREARMS, HEALTH CARE
MENTAL ILLNESS AND MASS MURDER
The left wants to discount the role of mental disturbance in mass shootings. By doing so, it can keep all of the focus on guns and “white supremacy.”
In addition, allowing mental disturbance to enter the conversation might lead to a discussion of family breakdown and loss of religious faith. The left wants to steer clear of that discussion at all costs.
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In July 2019, the U.S. Secret Service released its report “Mass Attacks in Public Spaces—2018.” The report covered 27 attacks that resulted in 91 deaths and 107 injuries. The investigators found that 67% of the suspects displayed symptoms of mental illness or emotional disturbance. In 93% of the incidents, the authorities found that the suspects had a history of threats or other troubling communications.
The results were similar to those of another study published by the Secret Service on 28 such attacks in 2017.
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Mental illness and mass murder
We have been begging for YEARS to get better funding and programs for mental illness in this country and red states are THE WORST. You nitwits suddenly jump on the bandwagon pretending you CARE about mental illness when it is the first funding you cut? Seriously? I wouldnt even go there if I were you because you only you give a fuck about is to distract from your precious right to assault style guns.
In the meantime, how many of those mass shooters were diagnosed with a mental illness?
Rubbish. Homelessness is not an indicator of poor mental health. People with mental disorders who do not receive treatment or shelter will almost certainly find themselves on the street but homelessness is an indicator of people without a place to live .... and to suggest that homelessness is made up of mentally ill people is an idiot's logic.Portland, Los Angeles, Seattle, San Francisco have a homeless issue and which is also a good indicator of poor mental health. Solid blue cities in solid blue states that has no solutions other than to let these mental patients run the streets and takeover their downtown centers. No help, no answers, just let them sleep and live and strew trash, pee on sidewalks, defecate on sidewalks but don’t address the issue.
You are the ones who gutted mental health!We is the those who genuinely care about mental health care and have been working hard to improve it while you lot just keep cutting funding and programs. Now, suddenly you rightists notice it? Really? Only when your gun rights are questioned? And then you blame it on the left who have generally been the ones lobbying for mental health? Can you be any more FAKE?We have been begging for YEARS to get better funding and programs for mental illness in this country and red states are THE WORST. You nitwits suddenly jump on the bandwagon pretending you CARE about mental illness when it is the first funding you cut? Seriously? I wouldnt even go there if I were you because you only you give a fuck about is to distract from your precious right to assault style guns.
In the meantime, how many of those mass shooters were diagnosed with a mental illness?
Who is "We"?
You must have forgotten but I didn't notice where you supported your allegations? I provided FACTS, where are yours or are you just whining?
“Why are Progressives afraid to address MENTAL ILLNESS AND MASS MURDER?”Why are Progressives afraid to address MENTAL ILLNESS AND MASS MURDER?
Is the Mental Illness lobby preventing Progressives from addressing the REAL CAUSE OF MASS MURDER?
POSTED ON AUGUST 7, 2019 BY PAUL MIRENGOFF IN CRIME, FIREARMS, HEALTH CARE
MENTAL ILLNESS AND MASS MURDER
The left wants to discount the role of mental disturbance in mass shootings. By doing so, it can keep all of the focus on guns and “white supremacy.”
In addition, allowing mental disturbance to enter the conversation might lead to a discussion of family breakdown and loss of religious faith. The left wants to steer clear of that discussion at all costs.
[...]
In July 2019, the U.S. Secret Service released its report “Mass Attacks in Public Spaces—2018.” The report covered 27 attacks that resulted in 91 deaths and 107 injuries. The investigators found that 67% of the suspects displayed symptoms of mental illness or emotional disturbance. In 93% of the incidents, the authorities found that the suspects had a history of threats or other troubling communications.
The results were similar to those of another study published by the Secret Service on 28 such attacks in 2017.
[...]
Mental illness and mass murder
The mentally ill have the right to due process with regard to being designated a prohibited person.They can’t. TheRepublicansinsist that the mentally ill and incompetent have a right to guns.Take their guns!
They have a ducked up sense of priorities and this the first intimation they give a damn about mental illness,
We is the those who genuinely care about mental health care and have been working hard to improve it while you lot just keep cutting funding and programs. Now, suddenly you rightists notice it? Really? Only when your gun rights are questioned? And then you blame it on the left who have generally been the ones lobbying for mental health? Can you be any more FAKE?
Funny how he works like thatWe is the those who genuinely care about mental health care and have been working hard to improve it while you lot just keep cutting funding and programs. Now, suddenly you rightists notice it? Really? Only when your gun rights are questioned? And then you blame it on the left who have generally been the ones lobbying for mental health? Can you be any more FAKE?
I'm sure you just forgot to include the reliable source and working link supporting this false allegation. Go for it!
Guns are the American madman's outil de choix as the French say. The tool of choice.
I ask again, are Americans crazier than other societies?
Rubbish. Homelessness is not an indicator of poor mental health. People with mental disorders who do not receive treatment or shelter will almost certainly find themselves on the street but homelessness is an indicator of people without a place to live .... and to suggest that homelessness is made up of mentally ill people is an idiot's logic.
We is the those who genuinely care about mental health care and have been working hard to improve it while you lot just keep cutting funding and programs. Now, suddenly you rightists notice it? Really? Only when your gun rights are questioned? And then you blame it on the left who have generally been the ones lobbying for mental health? Can you be any more FAKE?
I'm sure you just forgot to include the reliable source and working link supporting this false allegation. Go for it!
I posted a link early on in his thread showing how red states fare in mental health programs.We is the those who genuinely care about mental health care and have been working hard to improve it while you lot just keep cutting funding and programs. Now, suddenly you rightists notice it? Really? Only when your gun rights are questioned? And then you blame it on the left who have generally been the ones lobbying for mental health? Can you be any more FAKE?
I'm sure you just forgot to include the reliable source and working link supporting this false allegation. Go for it!
Funny how you lack reading skills. Link was given in one of my first posts.Funny how he works like thatWe is the those who genuinely care about mental health care and have been working hard to improve it while you lot just keep cutting funding and programs. Now, suddenly you rightists notice it? Really? Only when your gun rights are questioned? And then you blame it on the left who have generally been the ones lobbying for mental health? Can you be any more FAKE?
I'm sure you just forgot to include the reliable source and working link supporting this false allegation. Go for it!
“Why are Progressives afraid to address MENTAL ILLNESS AND MASS MURDER?”Why are Progressives afraid to address MENTAL ILLNESS AND MASS MURDER?
Is the Mental Illness lobby preventing Progressives from addressing the REAL CAUSE OF MASS MURDER?
POSTED ON AUGUST 7, 2019 BY PAUL MIRENGOFF IN CRIME, FIREARMS, HEALTH CARE
MENTAL ILLNESS AND MASS MURDER
The left wants to discount the role of mental disturbance in mass shootings. By doing so, it can keep all of the focus on guns and “white supremacy.”
In addition, allowing mental disturbance to enter the conversation might lead to a discussion of family breakdown and loss of religious faith. The left wants to steer clear of that discussion at all costs.
[...]
In July 2019, the U.S. Secret Service released its report “Mass Attacks in Public Spaces—2018.” The report covered 27 attacks that resulted in 91 deaths and 107 injuries. The investigators found that 67% of the suspects displayed symptoms of mental illness or emotional disturbance. In 93% of the incidents, the authorities found that the suspects had a history of threats or other troubling communications.
The results were similar to those of another study published by the Secret Service on 28 such attacks in 2017.
[...]
Mental illness and mass murder
They’re not – this is a lie.
They correctly understand that the issue is far more complex than just addressing mental illness.
‘Progressives’ are also correct to point out the hypocrisy of conservatives with regard to mental illness and mass murder – where rightists oppose measures that would ensure all Americans have access to affordable healthcare, including mental health care.
Conservatives can’t have it both ways.
