Why are democrats so lost and clueless??

[tigerred59]

.what I will be voting for is repealing the massive tax cuts to the rich, reinstating the ACA mandate to .

I hesitate to go down this rabbit hole...but whats the advantage to the people who open those doors of being penalized and fined for not buying your health product?


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I live in a state where all the immediate care facilities are overwhelmed with sick people willing to pay 50 bucks to be seen by a doctor, where going to the emergency room is a 24 hour job and where sick people just simply die from lack of care. Where the governors are kicking people off of medicaid and nothing is there to replace it. The mandate gave you a primary care doctor, it helped....no matter what you morons say. I have a friend who pays 600 plus a month with COBRA....its bad.

 

[tigerred59]

I do not believe it because of the vote....most latino's turn conservative over periods of time....look at the Cubans in Fla. The only use they have for blacks and other minorities is take over their jobs and their communities...that's it

But you still haven't answered the question. Why are the concerns of foreigners so much more important to Democrats than the concerns of America.
Answer that and the whole charade comes down.

I don't fuckin know, I'm not a democrat

 

[Aba Incieni]

Since her days in politics, the GOP had been waiting to pounce on Hillary should she ever become a serious contender for president and we all so how that turned out. Instead of elevating a more viable candidate, such as Joe Biden, we put all our eggs in one basket and got Hillary. Not just Hillary, but the emails, her husbands miss doings, her inability to attract minority voters, etc....but the DNC never saw the clues or the trappings that came her way.......now here we go again......

If we run this Nov. on illegal immigration and abolishing ICE, while hard working americans struggle with low wages, high state taxes, high insurance costs, the tariff wars that will raise the cost of goods, huge manufacturing jobs leaving because of the tariffs, Trump and madness, we are gonna lose.

Democrats are notorious for running on issues that spark american interest.....what they fail to understand is that our attention rate lasts about 10 minutes, if that and its on to the next issue. Democrats have got to stop being the representative of illegals and focus on the very people that can vote them into office.

I am predicting now, if we stay on this course of championing illegals because kids are being separated from mom and ignore those of us in this country struggling to make ends meet, than expect a GOP landslide this Nov....you heard it hear first!!

ok ...who are you and what did you do with tiger?....

Harry, despite what you and the others think of me, I am extremely raw when it comes to facts, I do not play around with fantasy shit, I come to the table always with facts!!!. If the democrats run solely on Illegal immigration and getting rid of ICE and not address issues that are facing every day people in this country; we are gonna lose.

And it won't be because the GOP had a better candidate, or because of gerrymandering or even Putin, it'll be because we failed to rally a base struggling in a Trump economy, with issues that face our bottom line and stayed home instead. Seasoned die hard voters will always rally at the polls, but its the new voters, first time voters, people who take voting for granted and never vote, each party needs these types in order to win this Nov.

Democrats have a bad bad bad habit of not seeing the forest and only seeing the trees instead.

well i can agree with that.....as far as i am concerned the democrats are not telling me why i should support them.....all i hear is got to get rid of trump,but i hear nothing about how to help the people who are working and paying taxes but yet are either just getting by or are not getting by.....those people are going to back whoever they see out there talking about them,not trump...

What democrats must do, but have yet to follow through, at least where I live....is knock on doors, hold down hall meetings, do the foot work necessary to reach voters and see whats in their heads. My vote this Nov. will not be against Trump because the guy's not going anywhere even if we got a majority of both houses, Dems aren't brave enough to go after Trump, that's just fact...what I will be voting for is repealing the massive tax cuts to the rich, reinstating the ACA mandate to help bring insurance costs down and stopping the corruption of Trump officials and holding them accountable.

ACA is available now if you believe it's so great.

Or do you just want someone else to pay for your insurance?

 

[DOTR]

.what I will be voting for is repealing the massive tax cuts to the rich, reinstating the ACA mandate to .

I hesitate to go down this rabbit hole...but whats the advantage to the people who open those doors of being penalized and fined for not buying your health product?


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I live in a state where all the immediate care facilities are overwhelmed with sick people willing to pay 50 bucks to be seen by a doctor, where going to the emergency room is a 24 hour job and where sick people just simply die from lack of care. Where the governors are kicking people off of medicaid and nothing is there to replace it. The mandate gave you a primary care doctor, it helped....no matter what you morons say. I have a friend who pays 600 plus a month with COBRA....its bad.

Since you ignored my question I will ask it again. How do you explain the advantage to people of fining and penalizing them if they dont choose to buy the product being sold?

 

[DOTR]

But you still haven't answered the question. Why are the concerns of foreigners so much more important to Democrats than the concerns of America.
Answer that and the whole charade comes down.

I don't fuckin know, I'm not a democrat

Most of us do know however. We will never let them back in power.

 

[blastoff]

Since her days in politics, the GOP had been waiting to pounce on Hillary should she ever become a serious contender for president and we all so how that turned out. Instead of elevating a more viable candidate, such as Joe Biden, we put all our eggs in one basket and got Hillary. Not just Hillary, but the emails, her husbands miss doings, her inability to attract minority voters, etc....but the DNC never saw the clues or the trappings that came her way.......now here we go again......

If we run this Nov. on illegal immigration and abolishing ICE, while hard working americans struggle with low wages, high state taxes, high insurance costs, the tariff wars that will raise the cost of goods, huge manufacturing jobs leaving because of the tariffs, Trump and madness, we are gonna lose.

Democrats are notorious for running on issues that spark american interest.....what they fail to understand is that our attention rate lasts about 10 minutes, if that and its on to the next issue. Democrats have got to stop being the representative of illegals and focus on the very people that can vote them into office.

I am predicting now, if we stay on this course of championing illegals because kids are being separated from mom and ignore those of us in this country struggling to make ends meet, than expect a GOP landslide this Nov....you heard it hear first!!

Oh, hi! Nice to see the other tigerred again.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Since her days in politics, the GOP had been waiting to pounce on Hillary should she ever become a serious contender for president and we all so how that turned out. Instead of elevating a more viable candidate, such as Joe Biden, we put all our eggs in one basket and got Hillary. Not just Hillary, but the emails, her husbands miss doings, her inability to attract minority voters, etc....but the DNC never saw the clues or the trappings that came her way.......now here we go again......

If we run this Nov. on illegal immigration and abolishing ICE, while hard working americans struggle with low wages, high state taxes, high insurance costs, the tariff wars that will raise the cost of goods, huge manufacturing jobs leaving because of the tariffs, Trump and madness, we are gonna lose.

Democrats are notorious for running on issues that spark american interest.....what they fail to understand is that our attention rate lasts about 10 minutes, if that and its on to the next issue. Democrats have got to stop being the representative of illegals and focus on the very people that can vote them into office.

I am predicting now, if we stay on this course of championing illegals because kids are being separated from mom and ignore those of us in this country struggling to make ends meet, than expect a GOP landslide this Nov....you heard it hear first!!

There is zero chance of a GOP landslide, the only difference will be is it a gigantic win for Democrats or a mediocre win where they only gain control of one house of Congress.

I do agree that the Democratic Party needs to get back to what is has always been, the party of the working class. And they need to announce that loud and clear to the population "We are returning to our roots, we've always fought for the working man and that is what we are getting back to. That is our main focus. We will not abandon other issues but getting working people back to work is our priority."

Trump won the electoral votes of Wisconsin and Michigan by razor thin margins. He lost the popular vote by 3 million votes. All the country has to do is the slightest lean away from orange stool and the Republicon Party and Democrats will win. If they energize the middle they will crush the GOP in November.

But you're right, they seem to have a hard time letting go of dogmatic tendencies. Nancy Pelosi should never be a spokeman for the Democrats, she stumbles with every other word out of her mouth. Do the Democrats have no concept of showmanship in the age of television? But the old guard will not let go. They're going to have to. They have a rare opportunity to utterly destroy the Republicans in this next election.

Friend, I have yet to meet one person that supports illegal immigration, not one. This is gonna destroy our chances if we keep all our eggs on this one topic, its just fact.

I agree if the Democrats push this issue as the only one. I don't think they will, though as you said and we both know the Democrats do some really dumb things. Even if they do though the GOP isn't going to win in November. The Democrats just won't win as big.

And if the American people don't make the correction that is needed in November and vote control of Congress to the Democrats then they deserve to get bent over and violated over and over as Trump and his sycophants want to do to them.

we get bent over no matter which party wins.....

Republicans give trillions of dollars to the wealthy at the moment the country has a $21 trillion dollar debt.

It is a false equivalency to try to toss the Democrats into the same pot. They don't control anything.

 

[Aba Incieni]

Since her days in politics, the GOP had been waiting to pounce on Hillary should she ever become a serious contender for president and we all so how that turned out. Instead of elevating a more viable candidate, such as Joe Biden, we put all our eggs in one basket and got Hillary. Not just Hillary, but the emails, her husbands miss doings, her inability to attract minority voters, etc....but the DNC never saw the clues or the trappings that came her way.......now here we go again......

If we run this Nov. on illegal immigration and abolishing ICE, while hard working americans struggle with low wages, high state taxes, high insurance costs, the tariff wars that will raise the cost of goods, huge manufacturing jobs leaving because of the tariffs, Trump and madness, we are gonna lose.

Democrats are notorious for running on issues that spark american interest.....what they fail to understand is that our attention rate lasts about 10 minutes, if that and its on to the next issue. Democrats have got to stop being the representative of illegals and focus on the very people that can vote them into office.

I am predicting now, if we stay on this course of championing illegals because kids are being separated from mom and ignore those of us in this country struggling to make ends meet, than expect a GOP landslide this Nov....you heard it hear first!!

There is zero chance of a GOP landslide, the only difference will be is it a gigantic win for Democrats or a mediocre win where they only gain control of one house of Congress.

I do agree that the Democratic Party needs to get back to what is has always been, the party of the working class. And they need to announce that loud and clear to the population "We are returning to our roots, we've always fought for the working man and that is what we are getting back to. That is our main focus. We will not abandon other issues but getting working people back to work is our priority."

Trump won the electoral votes of Wisconsin and Michigan by razor thin margins. He lost the popular vote by 3 million votes. All the country has to do is the slightest lean away from orange stool and the Republicon Party and Democrats will win. If they energize the middle they will crush the GOP in November.

But you're right, they seem to have a hard time letting go of dogmatic tendencies. Nancy Pelosi should never be a spokeman for the Democrats, she stumbles with every other word out of her mouth. Do the Democrats have no concept of showmanship in the age of television? But the old guard will not let go. They're going to have to. They have a rare opportunity to utterly destroy the Republicans in this next election.

Friend, I have yet to meet one person that supports illegal immigration, not one. This is gonna destroy our chances if we keep all our eggs on this one topic, its just fact.

I agree if the Democrats push this issue as the only one. I don't think they will, though as you said and we both know the Democrats do some really dumb things. Even if they do though the GOP isn't going to win in November. The Democrats just won't win as big.

And if the American people don't make the correction that is needed in November and vote control of Congress to the Democrats then they deserve to get bent over and violated over and over as Trump and his sycophants want to do to them.

we get bent over no matter which party wins.....

Republicans give trillions of dollars to the wealthy at the moment the country has a $21 trillion dollar debt.

It is a false equivalency to try to toss the Democrats into the same pot. They don't control anything.

 

[Marion Morrison]

The much vaunted Democrat massive blue wave during the November election will barely be a small ripple. ...

That's because the Ds act as if their voters are too stupid to recognize the fact that they could care less about their voter base as long as they get more money from their donor base and Mad Max and Pelosi have rubbed their voters noses in that fact.

The problem with democrats, they pay too much attention to polls and current issues...yes the american people want illegal children back with their parents, BUT THEY ALSO WANT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION STOPPED....THIS MESSAGE THE IDIOTS ON THE LEFT SEEM TO IGNORE!!!

What about the black Americans in my neighborhood that want to work? Fuck the illegals, these guys have kids and are American.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Since her days in politics, the GOP had been waiting to pounce on Hillary should she ever become a serious contender for president and we all so how that turned out. Instead of elevating a more viable candidate, such as Joe Biden, we put all our eggs in one basket and got Hillary. Not just Hillary, but the emails, her husbands miss doings, her inability to attract minority voters, etc....but the DNC never saw the clues or the trappings that came her way.......now here we go again......

If we run this Nov. on illegal immigration and abolishing ICE, while hard working americans struggle with low wages, high state taxes, high insurance costs, the tariff wars that will raise the cost of goods, huge manufacturing jobs leaving because of the tariffs, Trump and madness, we are gonna lose.

Democrats are notorious for running on issues that spark american interest.....what they fail to understand is that our attention rate lasts about 10 minutes, if that and its on to the next issue. Democrats have got to stop being the representative of illegals and focus on the very people that can vote them into office.

I am predicting now, if we stay on this course of championing illegals because kids are being separated from mom and ignore those of us in this country struggling to make ends meet, than expect a GOP landslide this Nov....you heard it hear first!!

There is zero chance of a GOP landslide, the only difference will be is it a gigantic win for Democrats or a mediocre win where they only gain control of one house of Congress.

I do agree that the Democratic Party needs to get back to what is has always been, the party of the working class. And they need to announce that loud and clear to the population "We are returning to our roots, we've always fought for the working man and that is what we are getting back to. That is our main focus. We will not abandon other issues but getting working people back to work is our priority."

Trump won the electoral votes of Wisconsin and Michigan by razor thin margins. He lost the popular vote by 3 million votes. All the country has to do is the slightest lean away from orange stool and the Republicon Party and Democrats will win. If they energize the middle they will crush the GOP in November.

But you're right, they seem to have a hard time letting go of dogmatic tendencies. Nancy Pelosi should never be a spokeman for the Democrats, she stumbles with every other word out of her mouth. Do the Democrats have no concept of showmanship in the age of television? But the old guard will not let go. They're going to have to. They have a rare opportunity to utterly destroy the Republicans in this next election.

Friend, I have yet to meet one person that supports illegal immigration, not one. This is gonna destroy our chances if we keep all our eggs on this one topic, its just fact.

I agree if the Democrats push this issue as the only one. I don't think they will, though as you said and we both know the Democrats do some really dumb things. Even if they do though the GOP isn't going to win in November. The Democrats just won't win as big.

And if the American people don't make the correction that is needed in November and vote control of Congress to the Democrats then they deserve to get bent over and violated over and over as Trump and his sycophants want to do to them.

we get bent over no matter which party wins.....

Republicans give trillions of dollars to the wealthy at the moment the country has a $21 trillion dollar debt.

It is a false equivalency to try to toss the Democrats into the same pot. They don't control anything.

issac why am i not surprised you wont say anything negative about your pathetic party....here is a hint for you....when they are in power MANY people are being bent over and are getting fucked....yea i know,i was shocked too....

 

[IsaacNewton]

There is zero chance of a GOP landslide, the only difference will be is it a gigantic win for Democrats or a mediocre win where they only gain control of one house of Congress.

I do agree that the Democratic Party needs to get back to what is has always been, the party of the working class. And they need to announce that loud and clear to the population "We are returning to our roots, we've always fought for the working man and that is what we are getting back to. That is our main focus. We will not abandon other issues but getting working people back to work is our priority."

Trump won the electoral votes of Wisconsin and Michigan by razor thin margins. He lost the popular vote by 3 million votes. All the country has to do is the slightest lean away from orange stool and the Republicon Party and Democrats will win. If they energize the middle they will crush the GOP in November.

But you're right, they seem to have a hard time letting go of dogmatic tendencies. Nancy Pelosi should never be a spokeman for the Democrats, she stumbles with every other word out of her mouth. Do the Democrats have no concept of showmanship in the age of television? But the old guard will not let go. They're going to have to. They have a rare opportunity to utterly destroy the Republicans in this next election.

Friend, I have yet to meet one person that supports illegal immigration, not one. This is gonna destroy our chances if we keep all our eggs on this one topic, its just fact.

I agree if the Democrats push this issue as the only one. I don't think they will, though as you said and we both know the Democrats do some really dumb things. Even if they do though the GOP isn't going to win in November. The Democrats just won't win as big.

And if the American people don't make the correction that is needed in November and vote control of Congress to the Democrats then they deserve to get bent over and violated over and over as Trump and his sycophants want to do to them.

we get bent over no matter which party wins.....

Republicans give trillions of dollars to the wealthy at the moment the country has a $21 trillion dollar debt.

It is a false equivalency to try to toss the Democrats into the same pot. They don't control anything.

issac why am i not surprised you wont say anything negative about your pathetic party....here is a hint for you....when they are in power MANY people are being bent over and are getting fucked....yea i know,i was shocked too....

There is no equivalency is what I said. You tossed in the rest.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Friend, I have yet to meet one person that supports illegal immigration, not one. This is gonna destroy our chances if we keep all our eggs on this one topic, its just fact.

I agree if the Democrats push this issue as the only one. I don't think they will, though as you said and we both know the Democrats do some really dumb things. Even if they do though the GOP isn't going to win in November. The Democrats just won't win as big.

And if the American people don't make the correction that is needed in November and vote control of Congress to the Democrats then they deserve to get bent over and violated over and over as Trump and his sycophants want to do to them.

we get bent over no matter which party wins.....

Republicans give trillions of dollars to the wealthy at the moment the country has a $21 trillion dollar debt.

It is a false equivalency to try to toss the Democrats into the same pot. They don't control anything.

issac why am i not surprised you wont say anything negative about your pathetic party....here is a hint for you....when they are in power MANY people are being bent over and are getting fucked....yea i know,i was shocked too....

There is no equivalency is what I said. You tossed in the rest.

of course you cant see that....you are a die hard party person....you cant see nothing negative about your pathetic party.....luckily many of us out here in reality land can see how useless both parties are....wake up issac....

 

[Preacher]

Since her days in politics, the GOP had been waiting to pounce on Hillary should she ever become a serious contender for president and we all so how that turned out. Instead of elevating a more viable candidate, such as Joe Biden, we put all our eggs in one basket and got Hillary. Not just Hillary, but the emails, her husbands miss doings, her inability to attract minority voters, etc....but the DNC never saw the clues or the trappings that came her way.......now here we go again......

If we run this Nov. on illegal immigration and abolishing ICE, while hard working americans struggle with low wages, high state taxes, high insurance costs, the tariff wars that will raise the cost of goods, huge manufacturing jobs leaving because of the tariffs, Trump and madness, we are gonna lose.

Democrats are notorious for running on issues that spark american interest.....what they fail to understand is that our attention rate lasts about 10 minutes, if that and its on to the next issue. Democrats have got to stop being the representative of illegals and focus on the very people that can vote them into office.

I am predicting now, if we stay on this course of championing illegals because kids are being separated from mom and ignore those of us in this country struggling to make ends meet, than expect a GOP landslide this Nov....you heard it hear first!!

Simple its ONE word.
Trump.
That's why they are lost and clueless they are so angry and depressed President Trump was elected they have lost touch with reality.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why are democrats so lost and clueless??

Lots and lots of practice.

 

[william the wie]

Since her days in politics, the GOP had been waiting to pounce on Hillary should she ever become a serious contender for president and we all so how that turned out. Instead of elevating a more viable candidate, such as Joe Biden, we put all our eggs in one basket and got Hillary. Not just Hillary, but the emails, her husbands miss doings, her inability to attract minority voters, etc....but the DNC never saw the clues or the trappings that came her way.......now here we go again......

If we run this Nov. on illegal immigration and abolishing ICE, while hard working americans struggle with low wages, high state taxes, high insurance costs, the tariff wars that will raise the cost of goods, huge manufacturing jobs leaving because of the tariffs, Trump and madness, we are gonna lose.

Democrats are notorious for running on issues that spark american interest.....what they fail to understand is that our attention rate lasts about 10 minutes, if that and its on to the next issue. Democrats have got to stop being the representative of illegals and focus on the very people that can vote them into office.

I am predicting now, if we stay on this course of championing illegals because kids are being separated from mom and ignore those of us in this country struggling to make ends meet, than expect a GOP landslide this Nov....you heard it hear first!!

Simple its ONE word.
Trump.
That's why they are lost and clueless they are so angry and depressed President Trump was elected they have lost touch with reality.

Since her days in politics, the GOP had been waiting to pounce on Hillary should she ever become a serious contender for president and we all so how that turned out. Instead of elevating a more viable candidate, such as Joe Biden, we put all our eggs in one basket and got Hillary. Not just Hillary, but the emails, her husbands miss doings, her inability to attract minority voters, etc....but the DNC never saw the clues or the trappings that came her way.......now here we go again......

If we run this Nov. on illegal immigration and abolishing ICE, while hard working americans struggle with low wages, high state taxes, high insurance costs, the tariff wars that will raise the cost of goods, huge manufacturing jobs leaving because of the tariffs, Trump and madness, we are gonna lose.

Democrats are notorious for running on issues that spark american interest.....what they fail to understand is that our attention rate lasts about 10 minutes, if that and its on to the next issue. Democrats have got to stop being the representative of illegals and focus on the very people that can vote them into office.

I am predicting now, if we stay on this course of championing illegals because kids are being separated from mom and ignore those of us in this country struggling to make ends meet, than expect a GOP landslide this Nov....you heard it hear first!!

Simple its ONE word.
Trump.
That's why they are lost and clueless they are so angry and depressed President Trump was elected they have lost touch with reality.

I disagree strongly. The Mexican mob is both more sophisticated and more violent when necessary than the black gangs. The Ds fell for the greater bribe money and black gangbangers getting with it or getting hit has put two must have demographics at odds with each other. Then there is the matter of the comeback of blue collar workers and the related housing and labor shortage due to tax cuts has deprived them of another demographic.

 

[Nia88]

Democrat's problem is they aren't going progressive enough. they have all these old school moderate democrats still running things. More progressives are needed.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Democrat's problem is they aren't going progressive enough. they have all these old school moderate democrats still running things. More progressives are needed.

Correct.

You are not fucking up this country fast enough.

Get on it.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Dems will lose the black vote if they push this abolish ICE campaign.

Not that they care.

Blacks have no reason to flock to the Republican Party. Republican Party has made it pretty clear they don’t care about them

 

[william the wie]

Dems will lose the black vote if they push this abolish ICE campaign.

Not that they care.

Blacks have no reason to flock to the Republican Party. Republican Party has made it pretty clear they don’t care about them

True but blacks have plenty of reason to run away from Ds who are going for the more dependable bribes and kickbacks from the cartels.