Why are blacks such cowards?

[Ravi]

Do you mean to say "why don't blacks agree with your opinion"?

No.

That being said, then how is it possible for you to have an honest two way conversation about race when you have stated in this forum that you believe "blacks harbor hatred/animosity towards all white people"?

Most open dialouge that is productive requires some objectivity on both sides.

I stated what I observe. By all accounts blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way but I believe the majority do. Take assclapius for example, he believes that everything the white man has was stolen form the black man. That sounds like resentment to me.

I don't believe all black people resent all white people but they certainly have reason to do so. Our history of marginalizing them and keeping them from buying homes in nice neighborhoods has resulted in generational poverty. We won't even bring up slavery.

I stated:
"blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way"

Your first sentence indicates you didn't fully understand my statement.

No one is keeping them from buying nice homes in nice neighborhoods, so stop with the bullshit. As a matter of fact the government forces banks to make house loans to people that can't afford them. That's what got us into the recession to begin with.

What is the point of talking to you when all you do is lie.

 

[Asclepias]

No.

That being said, then how is it possible for you to have an honest two way conversation about race when you have stated in this forum that you believe "blacks harbor hatred/animosity towards all white people"?

Most open dialouge that is productive requires some objectivity on both sides.

I stated what I observe. By all accounts blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way but I believe the majority do. Take assclapius for example, he believes that everything the white man has was stolen form the black man. That sounds like resentment to me.

I don't believe all black people resent all white people but they certainly have reason to do so. Our history of marginalizing them and keeping them from buying homes in nice neighborhoods has resulted in generational poverty. We won't even bring up slavery.

I stated:
"blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way"

Your first sentence indicates you didn't fully understand my statement.

No one is keeping them from buying nice homes in nice neighborhoods, so stop with the bullshit. As a matter of fact the government forces banks to make house loans to people that can't afford them. That's what got us into the recession to begin with.

What is the point of talking to you when all you do is lie.

When you are a convict...lying is just what you do.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

By all accounts blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way but I believe the majority do. Take assclapius for example, he believes that everything the white man has was stolen form the black man. That sounds like resentment to me.

Just remember that, if that's the case, they were raised in a culture that fed into that. Anyone, anyone who is raised in such a culture is more likely to feel that way, even worse when it becomes inter-generational.

You can't turn a culture around on a dime, and sadly, too many have a vested political interest in actively maintaining the status quo, slowing the process down even more.
.

So if the culture is one that harbors animosity then there is no way to change it, the culture is what it is and if anything it's getting worse. So I guess the only thing to do is accept the fact that some blacks hate whites and vice versa and deal with it.

Human beings are pack animals. Distrusting outsiders is natural behavior. The more isolated the group, the more likely there will be distrust. There will always be people who hate other people because of the way they look, or talk, or where they were born, or what religion, or any of a million other differences. People have killed because they didn't like the sports team the other person supported.

You can't control this in other people. You can only control it in yourself.

Pack animals?

Have you ever owned a pack animal? I have and they are very trusting animals.

Like wolves stupid. Not pack animals that carry stuff.

You should be more specific. Words have meanings!

Irrational animal behavior is no blueprint for rational man.

 

[Asclepias]

Just remember that, if that's the case, they were raised in a culture that fed into that. Anyone, anyone who is raised in such a culture is more likely to feel that way, even worse when it becomes inter-generational.

You can't turn a culture around on a dime, and sadly, too many have a vested political interest in actively maintaining the status quo, slowing the process down even more.
.

So if the culture is one that harbors animosity then there is no way to change it, the culture is what it is and if anything it's getting worse. So I guess the only thing to do is accept the fact that some blacks hate whites and vice versa and deal with it.

Human beings are pack animals. Distrusting outsiders is natural behavior. The more isolated the group, the more likely there will be distrust. There will always be people who hate other people because of the way they look, or talk, or where they were born, or what religion, or any of a million other differences. People have killed because they didn't like the sports team the other person supported.

You can't control this in other people. You can only control it in yourself.

Pack animals?

Have you ever owned a pack animal? I have and they are very trusting animals.

Like wolves stupid. Not pack animals that carry stuff.

You should be more specific. Words have meanings!

Irrational animal behavior is no blueprint for rational man.

You should have more intelligence. "Pack" animals in this context has nothing to do with carrying things.

Man is an irrational animal retard.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

No.

That being said, then how is it possible for you to have an honest two way conversation about race when you have stated in this forum that you believe "blacks harbor hatred/animosity towards all white people"?

Most open dialouge that is productive requires some objectivity on both sides.

I stated what I observe. By all accounts blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way but I believe the majority do. Take assclapius for example, he believes that everything the white man has was stolen form the black man. That sounds like resentment to me.

I don't believe all black people resent all white people but they certainly have reason to do so. Our history of marginalizing them and keeping them from buying homes in nice neighborhoods has resulted in generational poverty. We won't even bring up slavery.

I stated:
"blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way"

Your first sentence indicates you didn't fully understand my statement.

No one is keeping them from buying nice homes in nice neighborhoods, so stop with the bullshit. As a matter of fact the government forces banks to make house loans to people that can't afford them. That's what got us into the recession to begin with.

What is the point of talking to you when all you do is lie.

I don't lie and I haven't lied. But nice way to deflect the issue. Have a good day!

 

[Lonestar_logic]

So if the culture is one that harbors animosity then there is no way to change it, the culture is what it is and if anything it's getting worse. So I guess the only thing to do is accept the fact that some blacks hate whites and vice versa and deal with it.

Human beings are pack animals. Distrusting outsiders is natural behavior. The more isolated the group, the more likely there will be distrust. There will always be people who hate other people because of the way they look, or talk, or where they were born, or what religion, or any of a million other differences. People have killed because they didn't like the sports team the other person supported.

You can't control this in other people. You can only control it in yourself.

Pack animals?

Have you ever owned a pack animal? I have and they are very trusting animals.

Like wolves stupid. Not pack animals that carry stuff.

You should be more specific. Words have meanings!

Irrational animal behavior is no blueprint for rational man.

You should have more intelligence. "Pack" animals in this context has nothing to do with carrying things.

Man is an irrational animal retard.

Speak for yourself.

Reasoning and logic is one trait that sets humans apart from animals.

Rational animal:

While seen by Aristotle as a universal human feature, the definition applied to wise and foolish alike, and did not in any way imply necessarily the making of rational choices, as opposed to the ability to make them.

Rational animal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Asclepias]

Human beings are pack animals. Distrusting outsiders is natural behavior. The more isolated the group, the more likely there will be distrust. There will always be people who hate other people because of the way they look, or talk, or where they were born, or what religion, or any of a million other differences. People have killed because they didn't like the sports team the other person supported.

You can't control this in other people. You can only control it in yourself.

Pack animals?

Have you ever owned a pack animal? I have and they are very trusting animals.

Like wolves stupid. Not pack animals that carry stuff.

You should be more specific. Words have meanings!

Irrational animal behavior is no blueprint for rational man.

You should have more intelligence. "Pack" animals in this context has nothing to do with carrying things.

Man is an irrational animal retard.

Speak for yourself.

Reasoning and logic is one trait that sets humans apart from animals.

Rational animal:

While seen by Aristotle as a universal human feature, the definition applied to wise and foolish alike, and did not in any way imply necessarily the making of rational choices, as opposed to the ability to make them.

Rational animal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Sorry stupid. Animals reason all the time. There is nothing rational about man. Take you for instance.

 

[ClosedCaption]

No.

That being said, then how is it possible for you to have an honest two way conversation about race when you have stated in this forum that you believe "blacks harbor hatred/animosity towards all white people"?

Most open dialouge that is productive requires some objectivity on both sides.

I stated what I observe. By all accounts blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way but I believe the majority do. Take assclapius for example, he believes that everything the white man has was stolen form the black man. That sounds like resentment to me.

I don't believe all black people resent all white people but they certainly have reason to do so. Our history of marginalizing them and keeping them from buying homes in nice neighborhoods has resulted in generational poverty. We won't even bring up slavery.

I stated:
"blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way"

Your first sentence indicates you didn't fully understand my statement.

No one is keeping them from buying nice homes in nice neighborhoods, so stop with the bullshit. As a matter of fact the government forces banks to make house loans to people that can't afford them. That's what got us into the recession to begin with.

What is the point of talking to you when all you do is lie.

You should've responded with one word to prove he's a liar: Redlining

 

[Ravi]

That being said, then how is it possible for you to have an honest two way conversation about race when you have stated in this forum that you believe "blacks harbor hatred/animosity towards all white people"?

Most open dialouge that is productive requires some objectivity on both sides.

I stated what I observe. By all accounts blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way but I believe the majority do. Take assclapius for example, he believes that everything the white man has was stolen form the black man. That sounds like resentment to me.

I don't believe all black people resent all white people but they certainly have reason to do so. Our history of marginalizing them and keeping them from buying homes in nice neighborhoods has resulted in generational poverty. We won't even bring up slavery.

I stated:
"blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way"

Your first sentence indicates you didn't fully understand my statement.

No one is keeping them from buying nice homes in nice neighborhoods, so stop with the bullshit. As a matter of fact the government forces banks to make house loans to people that can't afford them. That's what got us into the recession to begin with.

What is the point of talking to you when all you do is lie.

You should've responded with one word to prove he's a liar: Redlining

Yep. And amazingly enough, he probably doesn't think redlining is racist. Guy is a boob.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

That being said, then how is it possible for you to have an honest two way conversation about race when you have stated in this forum that you believe "blacks harbor hatred/animosity towards all white people"?

Most open dialouge that is productive requires some objectivity on both sides.

I stated what I observe. By all accounts blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way but I believe the majority do. Take assclapius for example, he believes that everything the white man has was stolen form the black man. That sounds like resentment to me.

I don't believe all black people resent all white people but they certainly have reason to do so. Our history of marginalizing them and keeping them from buying homes in nice neighborhoods has resulted in generational poverty. We won't even bring up slavery.

I stated:
"blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way"

Your first sentence indicates you didn't fully understand my statement.

No one is keeping them from buying nice homes in nice neighborhoods, so stop with the bullshit. As a matter of fact the government forces banks to make house loans to people that can't afford them. That's what got us into the recession to begin with.

What is the point of talking to you when all you do is lie.

You should've responded with one word to prove he's a liar: Redlining

It would be a factor if it was proven that all institutions are guilty of it. Fact is only a handful of banks have been accused of redlining.

How convenient it is to forget the push by Carter, Clinton and Obama to push banks to make home loans to people with weaker credit, Bush the younger was also guilty of this.

In the years leading up to the housing crash, public data suggest that black would-be homeowners in Detroit were 70 percent more likely than white borrowers to receive a risky subprime loan from the now-defunct lender New Century Mortgage Company. This is the central statistic embedded in a 70-page lawsuit filed Monday in New York against Morgan Stanley, the investment bank that went on to purchase a large share of those loans for repackaging in mortgage-backed securities.
The suit, filed by the ACLU and the National Consumer Law Center, alleges that a kind of "reverse-redlining" became the norm in Detroit.

Were Big Banks Guilty of Racial Discrimination in the Housing Crisis - CityLab

 

[ClosedCaption]

Lets Play Americas Favorite Game: Which does Lonestar believe. Quote #1

No one is keeping them from buying nice homes in nice neighborhoods, so stop with the bullshit.

Looks like Lonestar says that no one is keeping blacks from buying a home. Bold Statement, but...does he mean it?

Or Statement #2

It would be a factor if it was proven that all institutions are guilty of it. Fact is only a handful of banks have been accused of redlining.

Oooohhhh!!! What a reversal. So when Lonestar says no one. Does he mean no one except someone?

You figure it out

 

[Ravi]

I stated what I observe. By all accounts blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way but I believe the majority do. Take assclapius for example, he believes that everything the white man has was stolen form the black man. That sounds like resentment to me.

I don't believe all black people resent all white people but they certainly have reason to do so. Our history of marginalizing them and keeping them from buying homes in nice neighborhoods has resulted in generational poverty. We won't even bring up slavery.

I stated:
"blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way"

Your first sentence indicates you didn't fully understand my statement.

No one is keeping them from buying nice homes in nice neighborhoods, so stop with the bullshit. As a matter of fact the government forces banks to make house loans to people that can't afford them. That's what got us into the recession to begin with.

What is the point of talking to you when all you do is lie.

You should've responded with one word to prove he's a liar: Redlining

It would be a factor if it was proven that all institutions are guilty of it. Fact is only a handful of banks have been accused of redlining.

How convenient it is to forget the push by Carter, Clinton and Obama to push banks to make home loans to people with weaker credit, Bush the younger was also guilty of this.

In the years leading up to the housing crash, public data suggest that black would-be homeowners in Detroit were 70 percent more likely than white borrowers to receive a risky subprime loan from the now-defunct lender New Century Mortgage Company. This is the central statistic embedded in a 70-page lawsuit filed Monday in New York against Morgan Stanley, the investment bank that went on to purchase a large share of those loans for repackaging in mortgage-backed securities.
The suit, filed by the ACLU and the National Consumer Law Center, alleges that a kind of "reverse-redlining" became the norm in Detroit.

Were Big Banks Guilty of Racial Discrimination in the Housing Crisis - CityLab

No one forced the banks to make bad loans you nit. They did it out of greed. This was what I meant by you being a liar but on second thought, since you can't understand what you read, you are probably just really stupid.

 

[PratchettFan]

So if the culture is one that harbors animosity then there is no way to change it, the culture is what it is and if anything it's getting worse. So I guess the only thing to do is accept the fact that some blacks hate whites and vice versa and deal with it.

Well, the process is definitely slowed down by those who want to slow it down, I can't argue.

But if this gets much worse, it could get ugly.

.

Much worse than what?

Um, than the way things are now.

Is this a trick question?

.

No. I'm trying to figure out why you think it will get ugly. Its no worse now than it was in the past, and it hasn't gotten ugly yet. Maybe I should have asked what you meant by "ugly".

I disagree that it's not worse now, I think it's deteriorating, and a majority of Americans agree with me (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/05/us/negative-view-of-us-race-relations-grows-poll-finds.html?_r=0).

I think it's quite possible we're going to see increased violence as a result.

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As opposed to the violence in the 60's? Doesn't hold a candle. I'd say the violence level has remained fairly stable for the last 40 years and I don't see it changing much. I don't see it getting better but a lot of what we see is media hype.

 

[Mac1958]

Well, the process is definitely slowed down by those who want to slow it down, I can't argue.

But if this gets much worse, it could get ugly.

.

Much worse than what?

Um, than the way things are now.

Is this a trick question?

.

No. I'm trying to figure out why you think it will get ugly. Its no worse now than it was in the past, and it hasn't gotten ugly yet. Maybe I should have asked what you meant by "ugly".

I disagree that it's not worse now, I think it's deteriorating, and a majority of Americans agree with me (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/05/us/negative-view-of-us-race-relations-grows-poll-finds.html?_r=0).

I think it's quite possible we're going to see increased violence as a result.

.

As opposed to the violence in the 60's? Doesn't hold a candle. I'd say the violence level has remained fairly stable for the last 40 years and I don't see it changing much. I don't see it getting better but a lot of what we see is media hype.

Well, I agree with the majority on this.

.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Lets Play Americas Favorite Game: Which does Lonestar believe. Quote #1

No one is keeping them from buying nice homes in nice neighborhoods, so stop with the bullshit.

Looks like Lonestar says that no one is keeping blacks from buying a home. Bold Statement, but...does he mean it?

Or Statement #2

It would be a factor if it was proven that all institutions are guilty of it. Fact is only a handful of banks have been accused of redlining.

Oooohhhh!!! What a reversal. So when Lonestar says no one. Does he mean no one except someone?

You figure it out

Lonestar didn't say "no one". Can you people ever be honest?

 

[PratchettFan]

It is perfectly possible. Perhaps the problem is you.

Prove it's possible.

Ok. You are a coward. Want to have a serious conversation with me?

Why do you think I'm a coward and are you capable of a serious conversation?

You see your response? Yet you think you can call an entire group of people you have never met "cowards" and then don't think you have anything to do with them not wanting to talk with you. A serious conversation requires both sides to not just talk but to listen. Listening requires you make an attempt to understand the other point of view, not just wait for them to shut up so you can talk.

Of course I do, I wrote it.

And yes I can call an entire group cowards if I so desire. It's called freedom. Free to express one's views, free to have an opinion....etc.

I'm waiting for other points of views, but so far all I've seen is whining.

You know, you not only aren't listening to me you aren't even listening to you. The only person whining is you.

 

[PratchettFan]

By all accounts blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way but I believe the majority do. Take assclapius for example, he believes that everything the white man has was stolen form the black man. That sounds like resentment to me.

Just remember that, if that's the case, they were raised in a culture that fed into that. Anyone, anyone who is raised in such a culture is more likely to feel that way, even worse when it becomes inter-generational.

You can't turn a culture around on a dime, and sadly, too many have a vested political interest in actively maintaining the status quo, slowing the process down even more.
.

So if the culture is one that harbors animosity then there is no way to change it, the culture is what it is and if anything it's getting worse. So I guess the only thing to do is accept the fact that some blacks hate whites and vice versa and deal with it.

Human beings are pack animals. Distrusting outsiders is natural behavior. The more isolated the group, the more likely there will be distrust. There will always be people who hate other people because of the way they look, or talk, or where they were born, or what religion, or any of a million other differences. People have killed because they didn't like the sports team the other person supported.

You can't control this in other people. You can only control it in yourself.

Pack animals?

Have you ever owned a pack animal? I have and they are very trusting animals.

A pack animal is a type of animal that runs in packs. Dogs, cats, dolphins, humans, etc.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I don't believe all black people resent all white people but they certainly have reason to do so. Our history of marginalizing them and keeping them from buying homes in nice neighborhoods has resulted in generational poverty. We won't even bring up slavery.

I stated:
"blacks resent whites, of course I'm generalizing, I know not all blacks feel that way"

Your first sentence indicates you didn't fully understand my statement.

No one is keeping them from buying nice homes in nice neighborhoods, so stop with the bullshit. As a matter of fact the government forces banks to make house loans to people that can't afford them. That's what got us into the recession to begin with.

What is the point of talking to you when all you do is lie.

You should've responded with one word to prove he's a liar: Redlining

It would be a factor if it was proven that all institutions are guilty of it. Fact is only a handful of banks have been accused of redlining.

How convenient it is to forget the push by Carter, Clinton and Obama to push banks to make home loans to people with weaker credit, Bush the younger was also guilty of this.

In the years leading up to the housing crash, public data suggest that black would-be homeowners in Detroit were 70 percent more likely than white borrowers to receive a risky subprime loan from the now-defunct lender New Century Mortgage Company. This is the central statistic embedded in a 70-page lawsuit filed Monday in New York against Morgan Stanley, the investment bank that went on to purchase a large share of those loans for repackaging in mortgage-backed securities.
The suit, filed by the ACLU and the National Consumer Law Center, alleges that a kind of "reverse-redlining" became the norm in Detroit.

Were Big Banks Guilty of Racial Discrimination in the Housing Crisis - CityLab

No one forced the banks to make bad loans you nit. They did it out of greed. This was what I meant by you being a liar but on second thought, since you can't understand what you read, you are probably just really stupid.

Yes banks were in fact forced to make bad loans.

The CRA forces banks to make loans in poor communities, loans that banks may otherwise reject as financially unsound. Under the CRA, banks must convince a set of bureaucracies that they are not engaging in discrimination, a charge that the act encourages any CRA-recognized community group to bring forward. Otherwise, any merger or expansion the banks attempt will likely be denied.

The Government Did It - Forbes

 

[PratchettFan]

Much worse than what?

Um, than the way things are now.

Is this a trick question?

.

No. I'm trying to figure out why you think it will get ugly. Its no worse now than it was in the past, and it hasn't gotten ugly yet. Maybe I should have asked what you meant by "ugly".

I disagree that it's not worse now, I think it's deteriorating, and a majority of Americans agree with me (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/05/us/negative-view-of-us-race-relations-grows-poll-finds.html?_r=0).

I think it's quite possible we're going to see increased violence as a result.

.

As opposed to the violence in the 60's? Doesn't hold a candle. I'd say the violence level has remained fairly stable for the last 40 years and I don't see it changing much. I don't see it getting better but a lot of what we see is media hype.

Well, I agree with the majority on this.

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You are certainly free to do so. I just think the majority is wrong.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Prove it's possible.

Ok. You are a coward. Want to have a serious conversation with me?

Why do you think I'm a coward and are you capable of a serious conversation?

You see your response? Yet you think you can call an entire group of people you have never met "cowards" and then don't think you have anything to do with them not wanting to talk with you. A serious conversation requires both sides to not just talk but to listen. Listening requires you make an attempt to understand the other point of view, not just wait for them to shut up so you can talk.

Of course I do, I wrote it.

And yes I can call an entire group cowards if I so desire. It's called freedom. Free to express one's views, free to have an opinion....etc.

I'm waiting for other points of views, but so far all I've seen is whining.

You know, you not only aren't listening to me you aren't even listening to you. The only person whining is you.

You are right. I'm not listening, I'm reading. And from what I've read, is appears that you are whining.