Why Americans Really Don't Give a Shit about Covid

[Gdjjr]

Providing enough stupids don't refuse to take it, we're done with it.

You can have mine- thay way you'll be doubly indoctrinated.

 

[Gdjjr]

Total quarantine or herd immunity are about the only real ways to end an epidemic.

We can start the quarantine (total) with the Empty Suit brigades who feel special having their cameras and microphones turned off- along with the talking head celebrity wanna be's- then concentrate on the city burners who defy the civilization they are helping destroy- then the "experts" get their cameras and mics turned off- stop the official printing presses and their operators too- then, we can make cars, trucks, buses and planes illegal- then heart attacks and cancer- hell. let's just cancel living- Uncle Sham and "experts" can fix everything, then we can carry on with life the way they want us to-- heavenly. Right?

 

[Gdjjr]

That's where the line is drawn.

This time? Or next time? An inch, or a mile?

 

[Gdjjr]

How come you yanks are so into individualism you couldn't give a shit if your own inlaws die?

How come those who prefer a nanny always paint with a broad brush?

 

[Cellblock2429]

Actually, my sister wouldn't let her younger daughter come to thanksgiving because she and her boyfriend weren't practicing quarentine measures... She and her husband are in their 60's and can't risk infection.

The real problem here is that we've been living with TRUMP PLAGUE for 9 months now, and yes, we are all getting a little worn down with it all.

Hopefully, there won't be another spike in a week or so for those who were less careful.

/——/ Trump plague???? You moron. How about the Obama plague of 2009-2010?

 

[Rigby5]

So...never. COVID will be with us forever.

Okay- one more time. We will have a vaccine next year. Providing enough stupids don't refuse to take it, we're done with it.

Even if not enough take the vaccine, as long as the reservoir is bats and we leave them alone, it likely is will be gone once we end it.
The question is ending it.
The vaccine alone can't do that because not everyone can or will be vaccinated.
So then it will be herd immunity that ends it.
And then realizing that, we should not wait for a vaccine.
We can do herd immunity right now, and end it in 2 weeks.
All we have to do is deliberately infect about 7% of the young and healthy of the population, and isolate them for 2 weeks.
Remember the lethality rate is 10 times lower than Fauci estimated because 90% of those infected are asymptomatic and were not tested or recorded.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Actually, my sister wouldn't let her younger daughter come to thanksgiving because she and her boyfriend weren't practicing quarentine measures... She and her husband are in their 60's and can't risk infection.

The real problem here is that we've been living with TRUMP PLAGUE for 9 months now, and yes, we are all getting a little worn down with it all.

Hopefully, there won't be another spike in a week or so for those who were less careful.

Trying to hide from a virus is about as stupid as voting for Biden for president.

 

[Correll]

I don't now, and I've never cared, or believed the hype about this strain of flu- there were several granny's in attendance at the Thanksgiving I attended- me being one of them- in fact most there were granny's- as in older than most of yall- not a one has been diagnosed with anything other than hypocrisy, and that is by me, the flu hasn't bothered them and yes they (and I) go out in public without a mask-

The media made way more of this crap than was warranted- imagine that-

My father in law was at our house, no mask. He is the only person I know who knows someone who got covid. An old and fat friend of his got it, and shook it in a few days, no problem.

 

[Rigby5]

How come you yanks are so into individualism you couldn't give a shit if your own inlaws die?

How come those who prefer a nanny always paint with a broad brush?

Individualism means when a bureaucrat claims something, you need proof.
And the bureaucrats who claim that partial locks downs work, obviously are very ignorant or deliberately lying.
They do not, can not, and never have worked.
As long as there is infection, then it is spreading both in depth and width, to more remote locations that are going to be even harder to eradicate.
Whatever strategy one decides on, it has to be quick.
Flattening the curve is deliberately slow, so only makes it worse in reality.

 

[Rigby5]

Actually, my sister wouldn't let her younger daughter come to thanksgiving because she and her boyfriend weren't practicing quarentine measures... She and her husband are in their 60's and can't risk infection.

The real problem here is that we've been living with TRUMP PLAGUE for 9 months now, and yes, we are all getting a little worn down with it all.

Hopefully, there won't be another spike in a week or so for those who were less careful.

Trying to hide from a virus is about as stupid as voting for Biden for president.

Partial locks downs only make it worse by giving it more time to spread wider.
The historical method that works to end an epidemic once it has over flowed beyond where quarrantine can end it, is variolation, with deliberate infection of the young and healthy, who are not at risk, and can prevent from then being carriers.

 

[PredFan]

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

So here's the thing: People see these reports and horror stories on the Telly every day, but there is a bit of subconscious cognitive dissonance going on. Those horror stories just don't line up with what we observe.

The linked data tells you why your instincts are correct.

It appears that among Americans from birth to 64 years old, there have been recorded thus far about 5.8 million "cases." We all know some non-retired people who have tested positive, so that number jibes. The total number of deaths (all we really care about) of people from birth to 64 years old is about 38 thousand.

So to summarize grossly: There are AT LEAST 116 million Americans between the ages of 0 and 64, and of those 5.8 million have tested positive. So that's one in 20 have tested positive. And if you test positive, about one in 160 of you will die from this dreaded disease. So as an individual between the ages of zero and 64, there is about a one-in-3,000 chance that you will die of the disease. It's not actually that high, but close enough.

And as we all know, the younger you are, the less likely you will get sick and die, and the older you are...

This is why so many people said, "Fuck it" and celebrated T'giving with their families. The risk is tolerably low. And if you took extra precautions with Granny, the actual upside was greater than the potential downside.

Truth.

I am a perfusionist in a local hospital. My self and my colleagues come in direct contact each and every day, with patients that have tested positive for the coronavirus. Of all of the doctors and nurses and respiratory therapists I work with, and there are at least a couple hundred, only four have ever contracted the disease. One of them is 66 years old. All have recovered and all state that they only had mild symptoms.

I have never witnessed a COVID death that could not be better attributed to a pre-existing condition. I know that they are all counted as COVID deaths though.

This whole COVID scare is absurd at best and the shutdowns are practically criminal.

 

[Rigby5]

Total quarantine or herd immunity are about the only real ways to end an epidemic.

We can start the quarantine (total) with the Empty Suit brigades who feel special having their cameras and microphones turned off- along with the talking head celebrity wanna be's- then concentrate on the city burners who defy the civilization they are helping destroy- then the "experts" get their cameras and mics turned off- stop the official printing presses and their operators too- then, we can make cars, trucks, buses and planes illegal- then heart attacks and cancer- hell. let's just cancel living- Uncle Sham and "experts" can fix everything, then we can carry on with life the way they want us to-- heavenly. Right?

Total quarantine only takes 2 weeks, so costs much less and kills far fewer than the partial lock down strategy we are doing now for 10 months, and clearly will go on forever without ever working.
But herd immunity is much cheaper and easier, while still ending it in 2 weeks.
One way to accelerate herd immunity like that is through variolation, (deliberate infection of those not at risk).

 

[PredFan]

Actually, my sister wouldn't let her younger daughter come to thanksgiving because she and her boyfriend weren't practicing quarentine measures... She and her husband are in their 60's and can't risk infection.

The real problem here is that we've been living with TRUMP PLAGUE for 9 months now, and yes, we are all getting a little worn down with it all.

Hopefully, there won't be another spike in a week or so for those who were less careful.

Trying to hide from a virus is about as stupid as voting for Biden for president.

Partial locks downs only make it worse by giving it more time to spread wider.
The historical method that works to end an epidemic once it has over flowed beyond where quarantine can end it, is variolation, with deliberate infection of the young and healthy, who are not at risk, and can prevent from then being carriers.

The only thing that lockdowns will do is delay infections until the lockdowns are stopped. they cannot and will not save a single life.

 

[Rigby5]

Since herd immunity is dependent upon local burn our of the virus in being uable to find additional victims in time to reproduce, then lock downs actually are more like murder. They keep the virus alive indefinitely.

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

Total quarantine or herd immunity are about the only real ways to end an epidemic.

We can start the quarantine (total) with the Empty Suit brigades who feel special having their cameras and microphones turned off- along with the talking head celebrity wanna be's- then concentrate on the city burners who defy the civilization they are helping destroy- then the "experts" get their cameras and mics turned off- stop the official printing presses and their operators too- then, we can make cars, trucks, buses and planes illegal- then heart attacks and cancer- hell. let's just cancel living- Uncle Sham and "experts" can fix everything, then we can carry on with life the way they want us to-- heavenly. Right?

Total quarantine only takes 2 weeks, so costs much less and kills far fewer than the partial lock down strategy we are doing now for 10 months, and clearly will go on forever without ever working.
But herd immunity is much cheaper and easier, while still ending it in 2 weeks.
One way to accelerate herd immunity like that is through variolation, (deliberate infection of those not at risk).

Are you seriously out of your mind?
Herd immunity?
Do you know how many over 65's there are in the US?
20,000,000 or 16.5% of the pop. Can you imagine 20 million old vulnerable people all getting Covid.
The hospitals would all be overrun with a tiny fraction of that number, they wouldn't be able to treat anyone else. Millions would die at home.
The whole point of lockdowns is so the hospitals can cope.

Lockdowns have been proven to slow the spread right down all over Europe.
The first in the UK brought death rates down from 1000 a day to a handful a day over three months.
Then they opened up the economy, let kids go back to school, allowed folk to go abroad on holiday and the rates started to soar doubling every nine days. At the start of the second lockdown 600 a day were dying despite them having worked out treatments to reduce the numbers. Three weeks in and both infection and death rates have fallen dramatically.

Lockdowns are the only remedy PROVEN to work.

As for doctors breaking their Hippocratic oath and injecting healthy people with a virus that can make them seriously ill if not kill them - its never going to happen so why even say it?

 

[Dayton3]

Why stupid people don't give a shit about covid.

Stupid people believe the "official narrative". Period.

360,000 new cases
2700 deaths

Since Thanksgiving day

There is no dumber a son of a bitch on planet earth, than a Trump supporter.

Except a Trump hater. Plus anyone that dwells on raw numbers.

 

[ninja007]

great truthful article, covid is a hoax to bring in agenda 2030, great reset.



Three Biggest Lies About COVID-19 Have All Been Exposed

• October 14, 2020
• Politics and the Culture Wars

Three Biggest Lies About COVID-19 Have All Been Exposed
But here’s why globalist powerbrokers can’t let it die.
By Leo Hohmann
Since February, the U.S. media has been pounding Americans with non-stop reporting about COVID-19 coronavirus.
Eight months later, the data shows everything the media said about the virus was false. Yet, those posing as “journalists” continue to repeat the lies from February and March as if they are facts rooted in their quest to “follow the science.”
Every one of the BIG THREE lies seems designed to promote panic and an irrational response to the actual threat.
Anyone who even suggests that maybe the governments of the world have been overreacting to a virus that kills at about the same rate as the flu has been immediately shot down as stupid and not worth listening to.
Slowly but surely, however, everything we “conspiracy theorists” said back in March about COVID has since been borne out as not a conspiracy theory at all. It was 100 percent true.
So let’s look at the three biggest lies that are still being used to spread fear of COVID-19, keeping in mind that the media used these same lies to castigate President Trump when he was released from the hospital October 5th and implored Americans in a tweet, “Don’t let COVID-19 dominate your life.”
This virus is “not like the flu,” we are scolded. It’s much scarier than the flu because:
1. COVID carries a very high, 3.4 percent, death rate [compared to a flu death rate of 0.10 percent].
This has now been debunked by none other than the United Nations World Health Organization, which the leftist globalists believe is the gold standard for information about COVID. The WHO came out with updated mortality rates this week showing that only 0.13 percent of those infected will die. That’s 26 times lower than WHO’s previously purported death rate of 3.4 percent. We already know that in the U.S. the average age of those who succumb to the virus is 78 and they have an average of 2.6 comorbidities. This 0.13 percent death rate is almost exactly the death rate for the common flu.
2. COVID is spread by asymptomatic “super spreaders.”
This scares people to death every time they hear it, because it suggests that every human being you come in contact with can potentially infect you. This is absolute hogwash. Asymptomatic carriers have a very low viral load in their system, making it virtually impossible to pass the virus on to another person. Even in the rare cases that they might be able to pass it on, it is highly unlikely if they don’t have symptoms, meaning they are not coughing, sneezing or wheezing.
3. COVID is untreatable.
Now that truly is scary! This lie provided the pretext for Bill Gates and Big Pharma to rush to market an unsafe and unproven vaccine, which could end up being mandated by various state governments and corporations. But this “no treatment” lie has been exposed over and over by the facts, most recently seen in the way President Trump was so effectively treated with a cocktail of supplements and drugs. Trump was treated with Rendesivir in combination with zinc, Vitamin D and melatonin. Another option available in some states is hydroxychloroquine.
These three lies were cleverly crafted to refute anyone who brings facts to the table to argue that the government has no business closing down churches, businesses or generally violating the civil liberties of any American.
The authorities say this coronavirus has killed 204,000 Americans but those numbers don’t reflect the fact that hospitals were directed by the CDC to be liberal in filling out death certificates. Some doctors were so liberal that they actually notched deaths from accidents, heart attacks and strokes as COVID-related and therefore COVID-caused. CDC estimates that only 6 percent of these 204,000 deaths have been caused by COVID alone.
While these are the three biggest lies, they are not the only lies the media has told and continues to tell. What about the risk to young people? A look at the data shows incontrovertible evidence that college-age students have virtually no risk of dying from COVID. The media knows this. That’s why they focus their hysteria on the number of “cases” on campuses, not the number of deaths.
According to a survey by the New York Times, published September 25th, at least 130,000 people on more than 1,600 campuses contracted COVID and 70 died, but “most” of those 70 deaths, the Times admits, were not students but rather college employees, who were likely much older. But even if we factor in those older employees, the rate of death on college campuses according to the Times’ own study is a paltry 0.054 percent. Stunning!
One would think that once these scurrilous lies were exposed, the media would be shouting from the housetops that the CDC, WHO, Drs. Fauci and Birks, Gates and the rest of the “experts” whom they relied on for their information, and whose misinformation formed the basis for politicians to implement the economy-killing lockdowns, were completely wrong! Isn’t that what good, honest journalists do when they find out they’ve been played? Yes, they go back and correct the record.
But instead we see no corrections of their previous false reporting. No, they double down on the lies.
This is not news. This is the hallmark of a propaganda operation. Another name for it is information warfare.
If they corrected their false reports and began to prominently report the truth about COVID, this would put pressure on political leaders to end the destructive restrictions on human activity. Those leaders could then turn their focus to protecting the vulnerable, which are people over 65 with multiple serious, pre-existing health issues.
But that would require an honest press – something that no longer exists in America. They will continue to repeat the same old lies, that COVID is a killer disease unlike any other faced by mankind; we must “not let our foot off the pedal” of containing it, people of all ages and conditions must stay masked up at all times, indoors or out, and we must stay separated and isolated from our loved ones.

 

[JoeB131]

You can have mine- thay way you'll be doubly indoctrinated.

Awesome... so you think a vaccination is part of "indoctrination"? Really? Do you think they are shooting people up with a microchip? I'm just trying to get an idea of how far down the rabbit hole you are.

 

[Rigby5]

Total quarantine or herd immunity are about the only real ways to end an epidemic.

We can start the quarantine (total) with the Empty Suit brigades who feel special having their cameras and microphones turned off- along with the talking head celebrity wanna be's- then concentrate on the city burners who defy the civilization they are helping destroy- then the "experts" get their cameras and mics turned off- stop the official printing presses and their operators too- then, we can make cars, trucks, buses and planes illegal- then heart attacks and cancer- hell. let's just cancel living- Uncle Sham and "experts" can fix everything, then we can carry on with life the way they want us to-- heavenly. Right?

Total quarantine only takes 2 weeks, so costs much less and kills far fewer than the partial lock down strategy we are doing now for 10 months, and clearly will go on forever without ever working.
But herd immunity is much cheaper and easier, while still ending it in 2 weeks.
One way to accelerate herd immunity like that is through variolation, (deliberate infection of those not at risk).

Are you seriously out of your mind?
Herd immunity?
Do you know how many over 65's there are in the US?
20,000,000 or 16.5% of the pop. Can you imagine 20 million old vulnerable people all getting Covid.
The hospitals would all be overrun with a tiny fraction of that number, they wouldn't be able to treat anyone else. Millions would die at home.
The whole point of lockdowns is so the hospitals can cope.

Lockdowns have been proven to slow the spread right down all over Europe.
The first in the UK brought death rates down from 1000 a day to a handful a day over three months.
Then they opened up the economy, let kids go back to school, allowed folk to go abroad on holiday and the rates started to soar doubling every nine days. At the start of the second lockdown 600 a day were dying despite them having worked out treatments to reduce the numbers. Three weeks in and both infection and death rates have fallen dramatically.

Lockdowns are the only remedy PROVEN to work.

As for doctors breaking their Hippocratic oath and injecting healthy people with a virus that can make them seriously ill if not kill them - its never going to happen so why even say it?

You are seriously uninformed.
Locks downs have never worked, and only been tried once before.
And that was the disastrous Spanish flu of 1918, which the lock down extended to 2 years, murdering 10% of the population.

What you may be thinking of that does work, is total quarantine.
But that is not at all like a lock down because quarantines work fast, and use contact tracing to prevent spread.
In contrast, lock downs make the epidemic last longer by "flattening the curve", and to nothing to separate the infected from the vulnerable in things like food lines.

You don't seem at all to understand how herd immunity works.
By only selecting the healthy instead of the vulnerable, no one ends up in hospitals at all.
And it is lockdowns that fill up hospitals because they do not isolate the vulnerable, and they accumulate elderly infected very quickly.

As to the Hippocratic oath, the process of delibrate infection is called variolation, and has been done by doctors for over 5000 years.

 

[L.K.Eder]

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

So here's the thing: People see these reports and horror stories on the Telly every day, but there is a bit of subconscious cognitive dissonance going on. Those horror stories just don't line up with what we observe.

The linked data tells you why your instincts are correct.

It appears that among Americans from birth to 64 years old, there have been recorded thus far about 5.8 million "cases." We all know some non-retired people who have tested positive, so that number jibes. The total number of deaths (all we really care about) of people from birth to 64 years old is about 38 thousand.

So to summarize grossly: There are AT LEAST 116 million Americans between the ages of 0 and 64, and of those 5.8 million have tested positive. So that's one in 20 have tested positive. And if you test positive, about one in 160 of you will die from this dreaded disease. So as an individual between the ages of zero and 64, there is about a one-in-3,000 chance that you will die of the disease. It's not actually that high, but close enough.

And as we all know, the younger you are, the less likely you will get sick and die, and the older you are...

This is why so many people said, "Fuck it" and celebrated T'giving with their families. The risk is tolerably low. And if you took extra precautions with Granny, the actual upside was greater than the potential downside.

if it hits at home, you will care.