Why 911 Lies are easire to believe than 911 TRUTH

[daws101]

The whole production that is the made for TV drama that was 9/11/2001, was designed as psychological warfare, they knew that they could not capture ALL of the minds that day, but part of the scam is to nullify the opposition by getting them labeled "nut cases" and therefore incapable of selling the idea that 9/11/2001 was an inside job.
Just a little side line here, was anybody listening to the radio ( Armstrong & Getty ) this morning just before the close of their show, they mentioned WTC7 ..... Now I'm not sure as to what the mainstream media is up-to with this, but its interesting to note.
anyhow, like with the Dystopian novels, the authoritarian state gets to say what is what even if that authoritarian order runs counter to fundamental logic & laws of physics.
It is warping civilization big time and personally I am very concerned. How long before we have people turning in their neighbors for subversive activity if said neighbor just happens to KNOW that WTC1,2 & 7 had been destroyed intentionally ( that is Controlled Demolition ) ..... The authoritarian state has made HUGE strides in getting laws passed that not only limit personal freedom, but make legal torture and indefinite incarceration without charges or access to legal council. Just because these new laws are not being applied right now, doesn't mean that they do not exist and at some future time with a different administration, some crisis will arise and the President will announce the full on application of various legal means to suppress an insurgency.
The popular agreement on TSA "security" measures is only the beginning, this was implemented to train up the AMERICAN citizens to obey authority to make it easier for the power mad war-mongers to take over.

You think this is the rant of a loonie, right ....... give it some thought, ask your Congresscritters about the new laws that make it illegal to protest......

I don't "think" it's a rant by a someone with a mental illness ,it's obvious that it is...

 

[daws101]

The very fact that the mainstream media reported that an airliner was allegedly crashed into the PENTAGON when the damage is consistent with a missile strike ...... oh well,

false! a missile has an explosive warhead there is no evidence of explosives at the pentagon either.
why would anyone use a non armed missile as a weapon?

Just for my curiosity ...... what makes you say NO explosives at the PENTAGON?
did anybody actually test for explosives? and if so, where is it documented that said tests were done and the results of said tests?

no evidence of explosive or exoitc accelerants were found. besides missiles don't make round holes.
if a missles or missiles had been used it would have most likely have had proximity sensors and been an air burst for maximum damage.
no missile parts were found.

 

[n0spam4me]

considering the fact that the perps had total control over the site, what makes you think that missile bits would ever make it into the evening news?

 

[SAYIT]

considering the fact that the perps had total control over the site, what makes you think that missile bits would ever make it into the evening news?

Wait ... so in your particular conspiracy theory the "perps" planned, prepped, financed, coordinated, hijacked and flew the planes (or fired the missiles), fought the fires, manned and drove the ambulances and police vehicles, loaded the buildings with explosives then demolished them and cleared the site, confiscated and modified all the pictures and images from everyone who happened to be in the hood, corralled the media, the courts, and the insurers, all while having not a single non-conspirator notice or step forward with proof of your conspiracy theory?
Really?
So how many peeps were needed to do all you claim was involved, Spammy?
10-12?

 

[n0spam4me]

"missiles don't make round holes." and airliners striking at an angle do?

what?

 

[SAYIT]

"missiles don't make round holes." and airliners striking at an angle do?

what?

Still no support for any of the ridiculous claims you have made in these 9/11 threads? Oh well ... at least you are consistent.

 

[n0spam4me]

"missiles don't make round holes." and airliners striking at an angle do?

what?

Still no support for any of the ridiculous claims you have made in these 9/11 threads? Oh well ... at least you are consistent.

What support is there for the statement that missiles don't make round holes?
there is so much that is simply NOT supported by anything except for actual common sense. This is the real crime of 9/11/2001, the perpetrators intend to crush common sense so that the masses will be totally dependent on what they are told, rather than what they KNOW or can figure out themselves.

What does an airliner penetrating a wall like a hot knife through butter suggest to you?

 

[SAYIT]

"missiles don't make round holes." and airliners striking at an angle do?

what?

Still no support for any of the ridiculous claims you have made in these 9/11 threads? Oh well ... at least you are consistent.

What support is there for the statement that missiles don't make round holes?
there is so much that is simply NOT supported by anything except for actual common sense. This is the real crime of 9/11/2001, the perpetrators intend to crush common sense so that the masses will be totally dependent on what they are told, rather than what they KNOW or can figure out themselves.

What does an airliner penetrating a wall like a hot knife through butter suggest to you?

You mean nothing you will accept as proof because millions of people have conspired to bring down the 3 WTC buildings, slam a passenger jet into the Pentagon and, just for good measure, crash another into a remote field in PA.
They then managed to completely control the aftermath and command complete silence from all involved. Yeah, as already mentioned ... most people have heard and/or read at least some of what the "Truther" Movement is shoveling - such as your "no planes were hijacked on 9/11" and "missiles" were used to attack the Pentagon theories - and found these unsubstantiated scenarios to be so ludicrous and so absurd that they were and continue to be forced to accept the official version of 9/11 as the only logical explanation.
In other words, thanks to you the "Truther" Movement is now just a shadow of its former self with only the t-shirt and DVD hawkers (Gage, Jones) and a few losers (NoSpammy, Penelope) still hanging around.

 

[n0spam4me]

"missiles don't make round holes." and airliners striking at an angle do?

what?

Still no support for any of the ridiculous claims you have made in these 9/11 threads? Oh well ... at least you are consistent.

What support is there for the statement that missiles don't make round holes?
there is so much that is simply NOT supported by anything except for actual common sense. This is the real crime of 9/11/2001, the perpetrators intend to crush common sense so that the masses will be totally dependent on what they are told, rather than what they KNOW or can figure out themselves.

What does an airliner penetrating a wall like a hot knife through butter suggest to you?

You mean nothing you will accept as proof because millions of people have conspired to bring down the 3 WTC buildings, slam a passenger jet into the Pentagon and, just for good measure, crash another into a remote field in PA.
They then managed to completely control the aftermath and command complete silence from all involved. Yeah, as already mentioned ... most people have heard and/or read at least some of what the "Truther" Movement is shoveling - such as your "no planes were hijacked on 9/11" and "missiles" were used to attack the Pentagon theories - and found these unsubstantiated scenarios to be so ludicrous and so absurd that they were and continue to be forced to accept the official version of 9/11 as the only logical explanation.
In other words, thanks to you the "Truther" Movement is now just a shadow of its former self with only the t-shirt and DVD hawkers (Gage, Jones) and a few losers (NoSpammy, Penelope) still hanging around.

To address this bit, the "millions" you speak of, may or may not be that many, the number of people required to pull off the scam is total speculation, however what is NOT speculation is the fact that WTC7 is seen descending at 9.8 m/s^2 for 2.25 sec and the building keeps its shape while falling..... and another anomaly is the bit about how the alleged "FLT175" penetrates the skyscraper wall like a hot knife through butter, just exactly how is that done without violating the laws of physics?
also to produce the result as observed for the twin towers, every bolt & connection within the structure would have to fail exactly on-time as if it had a schedule, because if any bit of the structure failed too soon or too late it would cause imbalance in the mass above and the whole thing would dump to one side or another and that would be the end of your "collapse" event. Fundamental physics proves that there is something VERY wrong with the official explanation.

 

[daws101]

considering the fact that the perps had total control over the site, what makes you think that missile bits would ever make it into the evening news?

the perps! book em dano!

 

[daws101]

Ten characteristics of conspiracy theorists - a look into the mind of conspiraloons nutjobs and tin foil hatters

 

[n0spam4me]

From your link "6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad."

It is most certainly good evidence that as shown in the mainstream media video of "FLT175" it cuts through the wall of a skyscraper like a hot knife through butter.
It is most certainly good evidence that WTC7 descended for 2.25 sec at 9.8 m/s^2
Indeed the fact of complete destruction of WTC1, 2 & 7 is also compelling evidence. Yet some people refuse to recognize evidence and the significance thereof when they see it.

 

[Skylar]

considering the fact that the perps had total control over the site, what makes you think that missile bits would ever make it into the evening news?

Who says that the 'perps' had control of the site? Your evidence and your conclusion are the same thing. That's the very definition of a circular argument.

And of course, you've summarily ignored every piece of contradictory evidence. Every eye witness. Every black box. Every body. Every piece of debris. Every picture of debris. Every radar record. Everything.

For no other reason that it contradicts your beliefs. But why would a rational person ignore what you must to continue to cling to your conspiracy? There is no reason.

 

[Skylar]

From your link "6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad."

It is most certainly good evidence that as shown in the mainstream media video of "FLT175" it cuts through the wall of a skyscraper like a hot knife through butter.
It is most certainly good evidence that WTC7 descended for 2.25 sec at 9.8 m/s^2
Indeed the fact of complete destruction of WTC1, 2 & 7 is also compelling evidence. Yet some people refuse to recognize evidence and the significance thereof when they see it.

The obvious problem being....you ignored every of 43 videos of flight 175 impacting the south tower. Every single one. Every live feed. Every camcorder. Every eye witness. Without exception.

For your theory to be valid, every single one of them would have to be faked or a government plant. And the TV networks would all have to be in on it, as all their live feeds would be faked. And the FAA, as all their radar records would be faked.

And of course, George Kozlowski. A New York City fire fighter who watched flight 175 fly in just before it hit the south tower. He lost 343 of his fellow fire fighters. But per you, he's lying to protect the people that killed them. Your claims is not only wildly irrational, not only pristine void of actual evidence.....its rather despicable.

Your theory fails the evidence test. As the videos, witnesses, radar records and physical evidence all confirm the impacts of the planes.

Your theory fails a test of Occam's Razor, as its stupidly and pointlessly complicated. It involves thousands upon thousands of impromtu co-conspirators to mass murder...all joining in for no particular reason, involves an insanely ludicrous degree of complexity being quite simply the most elaborate plan ever conceived on planet earth, ever. And despite this mind shredding degree of pointless complication it was executed perfectly, 4 times.

Um, bullshit. This would be the same government that couldn't execute a *website* with any reliability.

And your theory fails a logic test. As instead of faking every of 43 videos, every of thousands of eye witness accounts, every radar record, every live feed, every study......why not just crash the plane into the building? Its almost infinitely simpler and gets the same results.

Sorry, but the truther story is just a stupidly awful explanation that makes absolutely no sense at all.

 

[Skylar]

The very fact that the mainstream media reported that an airliner was allegedly crashed into the PENTAGON when the damage is consistent with a missile strike ...... oh well,

Who says the damage is consistent with a missile strike?

 

[CAPTCHATHIS]

The main problem that truthers have with convincing their fellow citizens is that their alternative explanations are usually quite awful. I mean, really, really bad. Holographic planes, invisible bombs, orbiting weapons platforms firing directed energy weapons, 'nano-thermite' and just ludicrously enormous conspiracies involving thousands and thousands and thousands of people....all keeping their secrets perfectly for over a decade.

Our government is absurdly pourous. We couldn't keep our nuclear secrets or our NSA survelliance programs secret as long as would have this supposed conspiracy.

Its not that the official version is perfect. Its that it matches the facts more closely, is far more plausible, and far simpler than almost all the truther narratives. Occam's Razor is intuitively obvious to most folks. And it cuts to the truther story to ribbons.

There are dozens of government programs and technologies that have been kept completely secret, we know that because we haven't heard about them.

 

[CAPTCHATHIS]

This is why it makes no sense to hand the Powers That
Be a gift on a silver platter by closing off inquiry
on the strong possibility that no passenger plane hit
the Pentagon. We can't afford to give up any weapon of
truth in this fight, including the myth that the
United States is a force for good in the world that
sometimes makes "mistakes." We have to attack
(metaphorically speaking, of course) on all fronts.

The problem with that narrative being all the pieces of the plane and bodies of the Flight 77 passengers they found inside the pentagon. Really putting a kink in that 'strong possibility'.

As for that to have been faked, the people you would have had to have folded in are legion. I mean, the plane didn't fly in a deserted wilderness under cover of darkness. It flew low over I-395 in the middle of a traffic jam. There are literally dozens of accounts of a plane hitting the pentagon and likely hundreds of witnesses. And they'd all have to be plants.

You'd have to fake the black boxes, fake all the autopsies, fake all the genetic testing, somehow cajole the emergency services who arrived to lie their ass off, plant all those plane pieces on the lawn, talk the ASCE to fake an elaborate report, fake all the radar records, fake the crash investigation, coverup whatever actually hit the pentagon, somehow dispose of the *actual* plane and all the passengers involving everyone from the FBI to the NTSB to the NIST to the ASCE to the DoD to the local fire department.

Or.....you can just crash the plane into the pentagon.

I mean, its not like they had an aversion to crashing planes into buildings. Even if you think it was a conspiracy, the elaborate coverup just makes no sense when crashing the plane works just as well and is infinitely simpler.

Occam's razor ....its why the official theory is so much more compelling than the absurdly elaborate alternatives.

Occams razor leans towards the simpler theory, that it was really a F6F Hellcat that hit the Pentagon, folding up it's wings as it entered a way too small hole...

 

[Politico]

The very fact that the mainstream media reported that an airliner was allegedly crashed into the PENTAGON when the damage is consistent with a missile strike ...... oh well,

Who says the damage is consistent with a missile strike?

The guys with the foil hats. Keep up.

 

[daws101]

This is why it makes no sense to hand the Powers That
Be a gift on a silver platter by closing off inquiry
on the strong possibility that no passenger plane hit
the Pentagon. We can't afford to give up any weapon of
truth in this fight, including the myth that the
United States is a force for good in the world that
sometimes makes "mistakes." We have to attack
(metaphorically speaking, of course) on all fronts.

The problem with that narrative being all the pieces of the plane and bodies of the Flight 77 passengers they found inside the pentagon. Really putting a kink in that 'strong possibility'.

As for that to have been faked, the people you would have had to have folded in are legion. I mean, the plane didn't fly in a deserted wilderness under cover of darkness. It flew low over I-395 in the middle of a traffic jam. There are literally dozens of accounts of a plane hitting the pentagon and likely hundreds of witnesses. And they'd all have to be plants.

You'd have to fake the black boxes, fake all the autopsies, fake all the genetic testing, somehow cajole the emergency services who arrived to lie their ass off, plant all those plane pieces on the lawn, talk the ASCE to fake an elaborate report, fake all the radar records, fake the crash investigation, coverup whatever actually hit the pentagon, somehow dispose of the *actual* plane and all the passengers involving everyone from the FBI to the NTSB to the NIST to the ASCE to the DoD to the local fire department.

Or.....you can just crash the plane into the pentagon.

I mean, its not like they had an aversion to crashing planes into buildings. Even if you think it was a conspiracy, the elaborate coverup just makes no sense when crashing the plane works just as well and is infinitely simpler.

Occam's razor ....its why the official theory is so much more compelling than the absurdly elaborate alternatives.

Occams razor leans towards the simpler theory, that it was really a F6F Hellcat that hit the Pentagon, folding up it's wings as it entered a way too small hole...

right! that "theory" has more than one gaping hole.
the landing gear ,engine parts and all the other debris were from a much larger aircraft.
when, how and by who were the "parts" arranged to fake it?
you might wanna study up on what occams razor is ....

 

[n0spam4me]

This is why it makes no sense to hand the Powers That
Be a gift on a silver platter by closing off inquiry
on the strong possibility that no passenger plane hit
the Pentagon. We can't afford to give up any weapon of
truth in this fight, including the myth that the
United States is a force for good in the world that
sometimes makes "mistakes." We have to attack
(metaphorically speaking, of course) on all fronts.

The problem with that narrative being all the pieces of the plane and bodies of the Flight 77 passengers they found inside the pentagon. Really putting a kink in that 'strong possibility'.

As for that to have been faked, the people you would have had to have folded in are legion. I mean, the plane didn't fly in a deserted wilderness under cover of darkness. It flew low over I-395 in the middle of a traffic jam. There are literally dozens of accounts of a plane hitting the pentagon and likely hundreds of witnesses. And they'd all have to be plants.

You'd have to fake the black boxes, fake all the autopsies, fake all the genetic testing, somehow cajole the emergency services who arrived to lie their ass off, plant all those plane pieces on the lawn, talk the ASCE to fake an elaborate report, fake all the radar records, fake the crash investigation, coverup whatever actually hit the pentagon, somehow dispose of the *actual* plane and all the passengers involving everyone from the FBI to the NTSB to the NIST to the ASCE to the DoD to the local fire department.

Or.....you can just crash the plane into the pentagon.

I mean, its not like they had an aversion to crashing planes into buildings. Even if you think it was a conspiracy, the elaborate coverup just makes no sense when crashing the plane works just as well and is infinitely simpler.

Occam's razor ....its why the official theory is so much more compelling than the absurdly elaborate alternatives.

Occams razor leans towards the simpler theory, that it was really a F6F Hellcat that hit the Pentagon, folding up it's wings as it entered a way too small hole...

right! that "theory" has more than one gaping hole.
the landing gear ,engine parts and all the other debris were from a much larger aircraft.
when, how and by who were the "parts" arranged to fake it?
you might wanna study up on what occams razor is ....

are you absolutely guaranteed for certain convinced that the pix shown that were of aircraft wreckage & bodies, were these pix actually of the inside of the PENTAGON?