Whose Planks Are These?

[Misty]

Ok I'll give you that but this is not a good sign.

"Young people are nearly three times more likely to be unemployed than the rest of the population, the largest gap in more than 20 years, according to an analysis of official figures.

The number of people aged 16-24 who are not in full-time education or employment has increased by 8,000 over the last quarter. With 498,000 in that age group without a job, an analysis by the House of Commons library for Labour shows that young people now fare comparatively worse than at any point since 1992.

Their unemployment rate is 14.4%. The overall unemployment rate now stands at 5.7% of the total working population, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS)."

Youth unemployment rate is worst for 20 years, compared with overall figure

Why are you citing UK statistics and not US?

It's worse in America. This is a problem that has to do with the way young people are being taught to be lazy and dependent.

"While each of these is evidence of the troubles facing young workers, none lays out the full scope of the nation’s youth-unemployment crisis. The reality is that youth unemployment is a much bigger problem than lawmakers have acknowledged. According to our analysis, there are more than 10 million Americans under the age of 25 who are currently unable to find full-time work—a number greater than the population of New York City, a city of about 8 million people."

"As we have written before, America’s youth-unemployment crisis will have serious, enduring costs for individuals, society, businesses, and all levels of government. At 16.2 percent, the unemployment rate among Americans ages 16 to 24 is more than twice the unemployment rate for people of all ages. These young people are facing significantly higher rates of unemployment than any other age group, as Figure 1 below shows."



America’s 10 Million Unemployed Youth Spell Danger for Future Economic Growth

hmmm I thought we were talking about current conditions in the U.S. but you are citing first UK data and now data from over 2 years ago. Judging from job gains since that article, they were unduly pessimistic.

No it's not getting better. The young people are not finding work. And it's a global problem that should concern you because the governments of the world are heaping so much debt on them and they have no interest in taking it on.

Atlas is literally shrugging.

Misuse of the word "literally".

Lol is that all you've got. Literally is my saying. I misuse it all the time. It's like fucking shrugging. I use that too.

 

[pinqy]

No, they are not. Don't confuse not entering the labor force with leaving it.

Ok I'll give you that but this is not a good sign.

"Young people are nearly three times more likely to be unemployed than the rest of the population, the largest gap in more than 20 years, according to an analysis of official figures.

The number of people aged 16-24 who are not in full-time education or employment has increased by 8,000 over the last quarter. With 498,000 in that age group without a job, an analysis by the House of Commons library for Labour shows that young people now fare comparatively worse than at any point since 1992.

Their unemployment rate is 14.4%. The overall unemployment rate now stands at 5.7% of the total working population, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS)."

Youth unemployment rate is worst for 20 years, compared with overall figure

Why are you citing UK statistics and not US?

It's worse in America. This is a problem that has to do with the way young people are being taught to be lazy and dependent.

"While each of these is evidence of the troubles facing young workers, none lays out the full scope of the nation’s youth-unemployment crisis. The reality is that youth unemployment is a much bigger problem than lawmakers have acknowledged. According to our analysis, there are more than 10 million Americans under the age of 25 who are currently unable to find full-time work—a number greater than the population of New York City, a city of about 8 million people."

"As we have written before, America’s youth-unemployment crisis will have serious, enduring costs for individuals, society, businesses, and all levels of government. At 16.2 percent, the unemployment rate among Americans ages 16 to 24 is more than twice the unemployment rate for people of all ages. These young people are facing significantly higher rates of unemployment than any other age group, as Figure 1 below shows."



America’s 10 Million Unemployed Youth Spell Danger for Future Economic Growth

hmmm I thought we were talking about current conditions in the U.S. but you are citing first UK data and now data from over 2 years ago. Judging from job gains since that article, they were unduly pessimistic.

No it's not getting better. The young people are not finding work. .

Your article has unemployment for age 16-19 at 22%, and age 20-24 at 12.5%
Currently it's at 16.2% and 9.1% A-13. Employment status of the civilian noninstitutional population by age, sex, and race That is better.

It also cites 10 million under 25 who can't find full time work. That is now 3.7 million. A-27. Persons at work in nonagricultural industries by age, sex, race, Hispanic or Latino ethnicity, marital status, and usual full- or part-time status (1.4 million part time want full time, 2.3 million unemployed)

 

[Misty]

Ok I'll give you that but this is not a good sign.

"Young people are nearly three times more likely to be unemployed than the rest of the population, the largest gap in more than 20 years, according to an analysis of official figures.

The number of people aged 16-24 who are not in full-time education or employment has increased by 8,000 over the last quarter. With 498,000 in that age group without a job, an analysis by the House of Commons library for Labour shows that young people now fare comparatively worse than at any point since 1992.

Their unemployment rate is 14.4%. The overall unemployment rate now stands at 5.7% of the total working population, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS)."

Youth unemployment rate is worst for 20 years, compared with overall figure

Why are you citing UK statistics and not US?

It's worse in America. This is a problem that has to do with the way young people are being taught to be lazy and dependent.

"While each of these is evidence of the troubles facing young workers, none lays out the full scope of the nation’s youth-unemployment crisis. The reality is that youth unemployment is a much bigger problem than lawmakers have acknowledged. According to our analysis, there are more than 10 million Americans under the age of 25 who are currently unable to find full-time work—a number greater than the population of New York City, a city of about 8 million people."

"As we have written before, America’s youth-unemployment crisis will have serious, enduring costs for individuals, society, businesses, and all levels of government. At 16.2 percent, the unemployment rate among Americans ages 16 to 24 is more than twice the unemployment rate for people of all ages. These young people are facing significantly higher rates of unemployment than any other age group, as Figure 1 below shows."



America’s 10 Million Unemployed Youth Spell Danger for Future Economic Growth

hmmm I thought we were talking about current conditions in the U.S. but you are citing first UK data and now data from over 2 years ago. Judging from job gains since that article, they were unduly pessimistic.

No it's not getting better. The young people are not finding work. .

Your article has unemployment for age 16-19 at 22%, and age 20-24 at 12.5%
Currently it's at 16.2% and 9.1% A-13. Employment status of the civilian noninstitutional population by age, sex, and race That is better.

It also cites 10 million under 25 who can't find full time work. That is now 3.7 million. A-27. Persons at work in nonagricultural industries by age, sex, race, Hispanic or Latino ethnicity, marital status, and usual full- or part-time status (1.4 million part time want full time, 2.3 million unemployed)

Like it's been stated, the reason it's down is because they have stopped looking.

"Data from the Pew Research Center, which looked into recent jobs reports from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, shows that a whopping 92 million Americans, or 37% of the civilian population older than 16, are “not in the labor force.” That means that they are neither employed or unemployed, but that they haven’t looked for a new job in some time. In fact, they have been out of the hunt for so long that they are no longer counted as “unemployed.”

Why More Than 1/3 of Americans Are Not Looking For Work

 

[Kobie]

Um, no - they're not.

Did you somehow forget where you cut and pasted them from?

They're not? Check again.

I just did. The only one that even resembles anything Sanders (and most other reasonable people) believe is No. 17. Unless you think corporations paying their fair share of taxes is a bad thing.

Your entire premise is made of very flimsy straw.

 

[Misty]

"The latest Millennial Jobs Report by Generation Opportunity, a national, nonpartisan youth-advocacy organization, shows that unemployment remained virtually the same among young adult workers, even as the economy showed signs of improvement and job creation was on the rise overall.

The report coincides with Labor Day, the annual celebration of America's workforce.

Generation Opportunity found that 13.2 percent of workers ages 18 to 29 are effectively out of work. This includes people who have stopped job-hunting.

The federal government's key labor metric doesn't count those folks. Generation Opportunity also looked at young adults who are unsuccessfully looking for work (and not those who have dropped out of the job market), and found that the rate is 8.1 percent.

The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics says the comparable national rate for all working ages is 5.1 percent, the lowest in seven years.

Generation Opportunity said in a statement that the number of young people off the American labor market altogether is huge:

The declining labor force participation rate has created an additional 1.767 million young adults that are not counted as “unemployed” by the U.S. Department of Labor because they are not in the labor force, meaning that those young people have given up looking for work due to the lack of jobs.
Nearly one in 10 African-Americans age 18 to 29 (17.6 percent) is effectively unemployed, the organization says. That number includes those who have stopped looking for work. For Latinos that number is 13.6 percent. For women, it's 11 percent.

Work Remains Elusive for Young Americans

 

[g5000]

I read the title of this topic, and I just can't get Matthew 7:5 out of my head.

The irony is just too rich.

 

[rdean]

Are these planks of the Bernie Sanders campaign? Yes or no.


11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. Demanding that the wealthy and large corporations pay their fair share in taxes.

18. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

19. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

20. Requiring employers to provide at least 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave; two weeks of paid vacation; and 7 days of paid sick days. Real family values are about making sure that parents have the time they need to bond with their babies and take care of their children and relatives when they get ill.

20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

I never heard of this one before. But since you mention it, is it such a bad thing that Halliburton shouldn't make billions off the deaths of young Americans?

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

What's wrong with "fair"?

17. Demanding that the wealthy and large corporations pay their fair share in taxes.

Perhaps you should review which are good and which are bad and why?

They pay more than their fair share. Without them this country would crumble.

When they own 90%, they should pay 90%. Don't you agree?

They don't owe 90% yet.

They are getting there and Republicans won't be satisfied until they do.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-12/top-01-us-households-own-much-wealth-bottom-90

Top 0.1% Of US Households Own As Much Wealth As The Bottom 90%

 

[Agit8r]

Funny thing is... the Nazi's didn't do any of that. The killed all of the left wing of their party, in the Night of Long Knives, and then installed the same economic system that their fascist allies had in Italy:

http://www.ub.edu/graap/bel_Italy_fascist.pdf

http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf

"We have founded a system based on the most sincere foundation there is, namely: Form your life yourself! Work for your existence! Help yourself and God will help you!"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Wilhelmshaven (Apr. 1, 1939)