Who's gonna milk them cows?
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marvin martian
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In another devastating blow to the U.S.'s agricultural sector, the mass deportation of cheap labor are leaving farmers with no one to work their farms.
DUH!
And once again we're talking about mostly red state voters. Voters who voted against their own interests (obviously) without thinking it all through to the final conclusion.
Hopefully they'll be ready to make better choices the next time they go to vote.
According to the United States Department of Agriculture, “In 2020–22, 32 percent of crop farmworkers were U.S. born, 7 percent were immigrants who had obtained U.S. citizenship, 19 percent were other authorized immigrants (primarily permanent residents or green-card holders), and the remaining 42 percent held no work authorization.” Any farm owner who voted for Trump’s mass deportation regime was voting against their own business interests (to say nothing of putting their now plummeting and critical soybean sales to China in the middle of his trade war), and if they didn’t know that, then my cold-hearted finance brain has little sympathy for people who have proven to not understand the business they have been trusted to manage. I took a whole class in school about what happens to managers like this.
"People don’t understand that if we don’t get more labor, our cows don’t get milked and our crops don’t get picked,” said Tim Wood, a dairy farmer and a member of the Pennsylvania Farm Bureau board of directors. Yes, and a lot of those people who oversee that labor voted to expel it from the country, and are now upset that they have to deal with the repercussions of their actions. I have long been told what is happening now is the fairness of the market punishing inefficient operations. In fact, I was told that it’s a good thing to get new managers into these operations so they can be run more efficiently and create more economic growth for the rest of us.
Politico notes that “The U.S. agricultural workforce fell by 155,000 — about 7 percent — between March and July, according to an analysis of Bureau of Labor Statistics data.” There are countless stories about immigrants being terrified and not showing up to work across the country because of Trump and ICE’s vast kidnapping operation, and the BLS data and recent Dallas Fed Surveys backs up what logic tells us. If people who owned businesses wholly dependent on undocumented labor supported a man telling them he will deport every undocumented person in the United States, what else should they expect for their businesses other than the mounting desperation that is unfolding right now?
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Estimated Worker Needs
Using the earlier per-acre worker-intensity estimates, plus knowing that many farms will spread work over time, etc., here are estimates:| Crop | Assumed labor per acre at peak (or average for maintenance + harvest) | Estimated peak / seasonal workers needed statewide |
|---|---|---|
| Potatoes | ~2–4 workers per 100 acres during harvest + some maintenance workers | With ~315,000 acres: that’s ~ 6,300 to 12,600 workers for peak harvest, plus maybe a few hundred additional for maintenance over the season. |
| Sugar Beets | ~1 worker per 75–100 acres at harvest + maintenance | With ~169,000 acres: ~ 1,700 to 2,300 workers for beet harvest + maintenance. |
| Wheat | ~1 worker per 250–400 acres at harvest | With ~1,110,000 harvested acres: ~ 2,800 to 4,500 workers for peak harvest. |
| Hay / Alfalfa Hay | ~1–2 workers per several hundred acres (cutting, baling) | With ~1,330,000 acres: maybe 1,300 to 2,800 workers during hay cutting/baling peaks. |
| Barley | Similar to wheat for harvest phases: ~1 worker per 300–400 acres | With ~500,000 harvested acres: ~ 1,200 to 1,700 workers during harvest. |
Combined Estimate
If you add them up, the combined requirement for seasonal/peak labor for all five crops, during their harvest/most labor‐intensive times, might be on the order of:~12,000 to ~23,000 workers
AZrailwhale
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Cows are milked by part-time workers who come in before their regular jobs, to clean the milking machines, hook them up, unhook them and clean and put them away. A dairy farm might have two full time employees.In another devastating blow to the U.S.'s agricultural sector, the mass deportation of cheap labor are leaving farmers with no one to work their farms.
DUH!
And once again we're talking about mostly red state voters. Voters who voted against their own interests (obviously) without thinking it all through to the final conclusion.
Hopefully they'll be ready to make better choices the next time they go to vote.
According to the United States Department of Agriculture, “In 2020–22, 32 percent of crop farmworkers were U.S. born, 7 percent were immigrants who had obtained U.S. citizenship, 19 percent were other authorized immigrants (primarily permanent residents or green-card holders), and the remaining 42 percent held no work authorization.” Any farm owner who voted for Trump’s mass deportation regime was voting against their own business interests (to say nothing of putting their now plummeting and critical soybean sales to China in the middle of his trade war), and if they didn’t know that, then my cold-hearted finance brain has little sympathy for people who have proven to not understand the business they have been trusted to manage. I took a whole class in school about what happens to managers like this.
"People don’t understand that if we don’t get more labor, our cows don’t get milked and our crops don’t get picked,” said Tim Wood, a dairy farmer and a member of the Pennsylvania Farm Bureau board of directors. Yes, and a lot of those people who oversee that labor voted to expel it from the country, and are now upset that they have to deal with the repercussions of their actions. I have long been told what is happening now is the fairness of the market punishing inefficient operations. In fact, I was told that it’s a good thing to get new managers into these operations so they can be run more efficiently and create more economic growth for the rest of us.
Politico notes that “The U.S. agricultural workforce fell by 155,000 — about 7 percent — between March and July, according to an analysis of Bureau of Labor Statistics data.” There are countless stories about immigrants being terrified and not showing up to work across the country because of Trump and ICE’s vast kidnapping operation, and the BLS data and recent Dallas Fed Surveys backs up what logic tells us. If people who owned businesses wholly dependent on undocumented labor supported a man telling them he will deport every undocumented person in the United States, what else should they expect for their businesses other than the mounting desperation that is unfolding right now?
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EvilCat Breath
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Harvesting potatoes. Are those two white guys?
Tons of sugar beets around here. They are harvested like this.
Surely wheat has to be harvested by hand. Ummm no.
Let's hear it for hay
Barley anyone
It's a whole new world. I'm in farm country. There are no field workers around here. Just machines.
EvilCat Breath
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Yeah. It takes the machine operators. How many field workers do you see? The day of the field worker is over.
frigidweirdo
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Who connects the cows to the machines?
EvilCat Breath
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Denying factual data! You have no data whatsoever. Just propaganda.
Two or three professionals.
You don't get it do you, the only places where illegal alien workers are being used are in deep blue regions, where they are protected.
Modern day slaves.
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Those professionals would be people, right?
So, if a farm has cows, it needs PEOPLE to make sure the cows get milked. And if the farm can't get PEOPLE, then it has a problem, right?
Yeah. Anyone supporting illegal aliens to do work is going to lie.
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