Who would you rather as president managing the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?" (poll)

[playtime]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

 

[playtime]

I think Biden will get plenty of campaign cash from China. Hell, you know they love him and would love not to have to deal with our great President Trump any more. Biden would be a pushover. Another billion dollar job for his son, Hunter, and voila, Joe will do anything they want. Hell, he'd outsource our whole defense department if they asked. That boy represents everything that is bad about rigged government.

bloomberg is bankrolling biden.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Trump by all means, Biden does not even know what day it is

Yea but Trump lies are now costing lives. Biden Obama Hillary would have been leaders we trust. Hell even Bush. But I don't trust Trump. He lied for political reasons. Hell, he always lies. This time it just happened to cost lives like we all said it would. Just like when he talks about violence and some right wing nut goes out on a rampage with his Trump manifesto.

Trump cared more about business than public safety. That's why you shouldn't have corporations running/controlling our politicians. Trump is a corporation. They see those less than 200,000 deaths as the cost of doing business. The economy must move on. People need to work. I agree. So Trump should have locked the country down earlier rather than spreading the lies that it's a hoax made up by the liberal media who wants to beat him in November. He's always playing politics, even now.

Wow, you are a very easily brainwashed TDS afflicted moron. The proof is that you still think Trump called the coronavirus a hoax even after that BS was thoroughly debunked a long time ago. Your inability to learn suggests a very low IQ.

Hey Asswipe Trump did not call the virus a hoax.... he called the media hype a hoax. Calling for 2 million dead now revised down to 60K and you don't think that is media hype worth calling out? Now shut up and get back to work

I love this. Trump tells you that we’d have 2 million dead if he “did nothing” and it becomes your benchmark for determining if he has done a good job.

Today, we will become number 1 for COVID-19 deaths. We had our first case on the same day that South Korea had its first case.

Take a look at the numbers.

Trump failed us in his response to this virus.

 

[playtime]

biden wouldn't blow off warnings from the pentagon briefing regarding the US was ripe for a pandemic, when the transition was in action between the outgoing & incoming administration were taking place.

biden wouldn't allow his NSA to dismantle the pandemic response team, that the obama administration put in place.

biden wouldn't blow off the warning from the intel community that something was brewing like a possible uncontrollable virus outbreak (via cables from china that they were monitoring).

biden wouldn't fire the science expert overlooking labs that was embedded within china to warn that it was happening.

biden wouldn't 'prefer ' that american citizens stay on a floating petri dish because he 'liked the numbers [of infected] where they were '

when the virus broke out of china - biden would have accepted the gene sequence & resulting WHO recommended test kits to start testing right away instead of insisting the CDC kits be used instead which ended up defective & put us weeks behind from where we could have been.

& biden wouldn't ship an overwhelming amount of our tax payer stockpiled PPE to them, resulting in a severe shortage, taking months to sign & enact the DPA, when it was too late; whining & outright lying that ' the obama administration left the cub boards bare '.

....no one dismantled the pandemic team--we stopped WASTING $$$ on it to other countries..get your facts straight

Trump dismantled the pandemic team, saying that he was a businessman and didn't like people standing around.
Of course, he denied it and said that he knew nothing about it and then blamed someone in his administration. How gullible his minions are, yes?

He also called the virus a "hoax" and said we'd have "zero cases" very shortly.

He said that the virus is democrat's "new hoax", get your facts straight.
His "happy talk" was just to stay calm and avoid a panic, like for paper products and disinfectants, while the government focused it's response to the virus.

In the former, he was lying. Clearly after 14,000 people have died, it's not a hoax as he made it out to be.

In the latter, he failed miserably. The shortages are a result of his trade war policies and the supply chain replenishment has a lot to do with his roll out of testing kits.... its happening very slowly.

You use words with no proof.
1. Trump's response to COVID beat the "doomsday projections" every time. Initially there would be 2.2m dead Americans, then 100,000 to 200,000 and now its down to about 60,000 by August. So the democrats' criticisms of Trump are in-fact a "hoax". Biden said that Trump's travel ban was "xenophobic" and he would not have place it (leading to thousands more dead Americans) and now he supports it. That is incompetence from "always wrong" Joe.

2. WTF are you talking about?? There are no shortages due to trade war policies. If there were any shortages it was due to the globalists moving so many US factories to China and India.

U.S. Job Loss to China Swells to 3.7 Million - Alliance for American Manufacturing

First two years of Trump presidency saw 700,000 jobs lost.

www.americanmanufacturing.org

3. The US testing "LAW" requires tests by the CDC or as approved by the FDA. The US is leapfrogging the world in rapid test development, currently doing 160,000 tests per day, soon to be in the millions of tests per day.

Totals for the US

Daily totals for all metrics collected from January 2020 to the present.

covidtracking.com

4. See how I use credible links to dispel your bullshit?

if donny had his druthers & opened the country up by tomorrow - this country would be right back to square one.... he's itching to get back to his addulation rallies. & if he bucks his scientists' findings - we are all in for a bigley virus rebound that we probably won't ever recover from.

 

[SmokeALib]

Biden lol...

 

[playtime]

Trump by all means, Biden does not even know what day it is

Yea but Trump lies are now costing lives. Biden Obama Hillary would have been leaders we trust. Hell even Bush. But I don't trust Trump. He lied for political reasons. Hell, he always lies. This time it just happened to cost lives like we all said it would. Just like when he talks about violence and some right wing nut goes out on a rampage with his Trump manifesto.

Trump cared more about business than public safety. That's why you shouldn't have corporations running/controlling our politicians. Trump is a corporation. They see those less than 200,000 deaths as the cost of doing business. The economy must move on. People need to work. I agree. So Trump should have locked the country down earlier rather than spreading the lies that it's a hoax made up by the liberal media who wants to beat him in November. He's always playing politics, even now.

Wow, you are a very easily brainwashed TDS afflicted moron. The proof is that you still think Trump called the coronavirus a hoax even after that BS was thoroughly debunked a long time ago. Your inability to learn suggests a very low IQ.

Hey Asswipe Trump did not call the virus a hoax.... he called the media hype a hoax. Calling for 2 million dead now revised down to 60K and you don't think that is media hype worth calling out? Now shut up and get back to work

I love this. Trump tells you that we’d have 2 million dead if he “did nothing” and it becomes your benchmark for determining if he has done a good job.

Today, we will become number 1 for COVID-19 deaths. We had our first case on the same day that South Korea had its first case.

Take a look at the numbers.

Trump failed us in his response to this virus.

we're #1 !!! we're #1!!! we're #1!!!

 

[SmokeALib]

WHO ARE THE TDS MENTAL CASES WHO VOTED FOR SLEEPY JOE?

Who are the ignorant, uninformed cases who voted for the feckless grifter, Trump?

You hillary panty-sniffers crack me up!

 

[Meathead]

I can you one thing with certainty: Biden would not be bloviating nonsense at press conferences nor tweeting stupidly on a daily basis.

So why is he?

 

[playtime]

biden wouldn't blow off warnings from the pentagon briefing explaining that the US was ripe for a pandemic, when the transition was in action between the outgoing & incoming administration was taking place.

biden wouldn't allow his NSA to dismantle the pandemic response team, that the obama administration put in place.

biden wouldn't blow off the warning from the intel community that something was brewing like a possible uncontrollable virus outbreak (via cables from china that they were monitoring).

biden wouldn't fire the science expert overlooking labs that was embedded within china to warn that it was happening.

biden wouldn't 'prefer ' that american citizens stay on a floating petri dish because he 'liked the numbers [of infected] where they were '

when the virus broke out of china - biden would have accepted the gene sequence & resulting WHO recommended test kits to start testing right away instead of insisting the CDC kits be used instead which ended up defective & put us weeks behind from where we could have been.

& biden wouldn't ship an overwhelming amount of our tax payer stockpiled PPE to them, resulting in a severe shortage, taking months to sign & enact the DPA, when it was too late; whining & outright lying that ' the obama administration left the cub boards bare '.

I stopped at #1 since you start out with a lie the media tried to push-

Pentagon denies existence of November coronavirus intelligence report warning of 'cataclysmic event'

The Pentagon and intelligence community repeatedly denied the existence of an intelligence report from the Defense Intelligence Agency’s National Center

www.washingtonexaminer.com

"As a matter of practice the National Center for Medical Intelligence does not comment publicly on specific intelligence matters,” Col. R. Shane Day, Director of the NCMI, said in a rare statement. “However, in the interest of transparency during this current public health crisis, we can confirm that media reporting about the existence/release of a National Center for Medical Intelligence Coronavirus-related product/assessment in November of 2019 is not correct. No such NCMI product exists.”

National Center for Medical Intelligence Issues Rare Statement Debunking Media Reports on Wuhan Coronavirus Timeline

The National Center for Medical Intelligence, a branch of the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Ag

townhall.com

LOL!!!!!!!! i don't know what bullshit biased fake news you are trying to peddle but the pentagon certainly did brief the incoming administration that a pandemic was heading our way within a few years & probably during donny's term. they briefed him in BACK IN 2017 & donny IGNORED THEM.

note the date:

Pentagon Influenza Response

 

[playtime]

biden wouldn't blow off warnings from the pentagon briefing explaining that the US was ripe for a pandemic, when the transition was in action between the outgoing & incoming administration was taking place.

biden wouldn't allow his NSA to dismantle the pandemic response team, that the obama administration put in place.

biden wouldn't blow off the warning from the intel community that something was brewing like a possible uncontrollable virus outbreak (via cables from china that they were monitoring).

biden wouldn't fire the science expert overlooking labs that was embedded within china to warn that it was happening.

biden wouldn't 'prefer ' that american citizens stay on a floating petri dish because he 'liked the numbers [of infected] where they were '

when the virus broke out of china - biden would have accepted the gene sequence & resulting WHO recommended test kits to start testing right away instead of insisting the CDC kits be used instead which ended up defective & put us weeks behind from where we could have been.

& biden wouldn't ship an overwhelming amount of our tax payer stockpiled PPE to them, resulting in a severe shortage, taking months to sign & enact the DPA, when it was too late; whining & outright lying that ' the obama administration left the cub boards bare '.

The Pentagon has already came out and denied that they warned Trump.

they sure did in january 2017. donny has his people in there now & i believe the 2017 pentagon.

Pentagon Influenza Response

 

[Muhammed]

Trump by all means, Biden does not even know what day it is

Yea but Trump lies are now costing lives. Biden Obama Hillary would have been leaders we trust. Hell even Bush. But I don't trust Trump. He lied for political reasons. Hell, he always lies. This time it just happened to cost lives like we all said it would. Just like when he talks about violence and some right wing nut goes out on a rampage with his Trump manifesto.

Trump cared more about business than public safety. That's why you shouldn't have corporations running/controlling our politicians. Trump is a corporation. They see those less than 200,000 deaths as the cost of doing business. The economy must move on. People need to work. I agree. So Trump should have locked the country down earlier rather than spreading the lies that it's a hoax made up by the liberal media who wants to beat him in November. He's always playing politics, even now.

Wow, you are a very easily brainwashed TDS afflicted moron. The proof is that you still think Trump called the coronavirus a hoax even after that BS was thoroughly debunked a long time ago. Your inability to learn suggests a very low IQ.

Hey Asswipe Trump did not call the virus a hoax.... he called the media hype a hoax. Calling for 2 million dead now revised down to 60K and you don't think that is media hype worth calling out? Now shut up and get back to work

I love this. Trump tells you that we’d have 2 million dead if he “did nothing” and it becomes your benchmark for determining if he has done a good job.

Today, we will become number 1 for COVID-19 deaths. We had our first case on the same day that South Korea had its first case.

Take a look at the numbers.

Trump failed us in his response to this virus.

That's what all feeble minds of you TDS afflicted morons have been easily brainwashed into believing. You low IQ makes your very suggestible and therefore very easily brainwashed.

 

[Mac1958]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

Oh, it's believable, and it should be a cautionary tale for all of us.

Party-over-country can kill a country, I'd imagine. Maybe it's best to think for ourselves and challenge our tribes when they lose their shit.

 

[kyzr]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

Politics News | Breaking Political News, Video & Analysis-ABC News

ABC News is your trusted source on political news stories and videos. Get the latest coverage and analysis on everything from the Trump presidency, Senate, House and Supreme Court.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

Trump did nothing for 2 months since he knew about the virus in January. He spent those 2 months in denial and accusing the Dems of a "hoax". He appointed 2 inexperienced hacks to head his response to the virus, instead of medical and science professionals. So let's look at it differently, yes? Hint: Obama care was very successful and Trump, jealous of all things Obama,
tried to kill the program rather than fix it. Oh, he promised better, cheaper healthcare to replace it. A feckless grifter.

1. Trump got the CDC and FDA and Task Force up and running in the 1st two months. The CDC was woefully inadequate for the testing capacity needed. So Trump got commercial labs involved.
2. The democrat "hoax" is alive and well, accusing Trump of mismanagement, when Biden wouldn't have implemented the travel ban, which now he approves?! Totally inept Biden, still always wrong.
3. What two "hacks" are you referring to? Pence was a governor used to managing responses to emergencies. His appointment gives the medical team the time to work on the disease, instead of trying to figure how the government works.
4. Obamacare rollout was not successful, it was a disaster, so says CNN.

Rough Obamacare rollout: 4 reasons why

It seems like a long time since Vice President Joe Biden whispered a bit too loudly to President Barack Obama that his imminent signing of the 2010 Affordable Care Act was "a big f---ing deal."

www.cnn.com

1) commercial labs were deliberately shut out of testing for COVID - & exclusively given to the CDC - which ended up giving faulty tests & their lab ended up being CONtaminated - losing us precious time to get ahead of this virus.
How the government delayed coronavirus testing
2) to donny, the (D) 'hoax' was that (D)s were saying this virus was going to explode & yes - closing the border to china was a good idea in hindsight - howeverrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - the chances are very high that the virus
A) was already here,
B) amricans scrambling to get back b4 we closed up shop, & them believing they would not be able to come home - some ended up bringing the virus back with them
C) it has been determined that the first hotspots in the US that broke out in NY - the majority of the victims were from europe - countries that donny didn't shut out until later on
3) pence was governor of indiana when HIV was rampant & his first course of action, was to close down the only planned parenthood in the state - the only facility that tested for HIV - then when his advisors were telling him to set up a needle exchange program - he decided to 'pray' instead - allowing even more people to die b4 he finally relented & the needle exchange program immediately showed results that lowered the infection rate & death toll.
4) obamacare has many faults - but overall people are happy with it - so much so, that scaring people into realizing it can be taken away (it's in the courts right now to dismantle the WHOLE thing) that townhalls were filled with people fighting to keep it & the 2018 election turnout, that flipped the house showed just how much people want to keep it.

1. Wrong. Read the ******* LAW before you post nonsense.
The CDC does all testing unless the FDA approves the outside lab test.

CLIA Law & Regulation

CDC - OPHSS - CSELS - Division of Laboratory Systems (DLS)

www.cdc.gov

https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/docs/APHL_Conference_LEI_Report_508.pdf

2. OK, the China travel ban was a good idea, also agreed that banning travel from the EU sooner would have been better.
3. OK, maybe one "hack" not two, huh? Pence is doing a great job managing the Feds response to COVID.
Trump's war on opioids is saving lives, look at the death rate for the Obama years, 2019 & 2020 should be lower yet. Overdose Death Rates

4. Agreed that 2018 was mostly about Obamacare. IMHO healthcare was better before Obamacare. We paid premiums and got good healthcare. Now we pay premiums, AND pay $10,000 deductibles and don't get "healthcare", just what we pay for. That's extortion.

 

[kyzr]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

 

[LoneLaugher]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

Politics News | Breaking Political News, Video & Analysis-ABC News

ABC News is your trusted source on political news stories and videos. Get the latest coverage and analysis on everything from the Trump presidency, Senate, House and Supreme Court.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

Trump did nothing for 2 months since he knew about the virus in January. He spent those 2 months in denial and accusing the Dems of a "hoax". He appointed 2 inexperienced hacks to head his response to the virus, instead of medical and science professionals. So let's look at it differently, yes? Hint: Obama care was very successful and Trump, jealous of all things Obama,
tried to kill the program rather than fix it. Oh, he promised better, cheaper healthcare to replace it. A feckless grifter.

1. Trump got the CDC and FDA and Task Force up and running in the 1st two months. The CDC was woefully inadequate for the testing capacity needed. So Trump got commercial labs involved.
2. The democrat "hoax" is alive and well, accusing Trump of mismanagement, when Biden wouldn't have implemented the travel ban, which now he approves?! Totally inept Biden, still always wrong.
3. What two "hacks" are you referring to? Pence was a governor used to managing responses to emergencies. His appointment gives the medical team the time to work on the disease, instead of trying to figure how the government works.
4. Obamacare rollout was not successful, it was a disaster, so says CNN.

Rough Obamacare rollout: 4 reasons why

It seems like a long time since Vice President Joe Biden whispered a bit too loudly to President Barack Obama that his imminent signing of the 2010 Affordable Care Act was "a big f---ing deal."

www.cnn.com

1) commercial labs were deliberately shut out of testing for COVID - & exclusively given to the CDC - which ended up giving faulty tests & their lab ended up being CONtaminated - losing us precious time to get ahead of this virus.
How the government delayed coronavirus testing
2) to donny, the (D) 'hoax' was that (D)s were saying this virus was going to explode & yes - closing the border to china was a good idea in hindsight - howeverrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - the chances are very high that the virus
A) was already here,
B) amricans scrambling to get back b4 we closed up shop, & them believing they would not be able to come home - some ended up bringing the virus back with them
C) it has been determined that the first hotspots in the US that broke out in NY - the majority of the victims were from europe - countries that donny didn't shut out until later on
3) pence was governor of indiana when HIV was rampant & his first course of action, was to close down the only planned parenthood in the state - the only facility that tested for HIV - then when his advisors were telling him to set up a needle exchange program - he decided to 'pray' instead - allowing even more people to die b4 he finally relented & the needle exchange program immediately showed results that lowered the infection rate & death toll.
4) obamacare has many faults - but overall people are happy with it - so much so, that scaring people into realizing it can be taken away (it's in the courts right now to dismantle the WHOLE thing) that townhalls were filled with people fighting to keep it & the 2018 election turnout, that flipped the house showed just how much people want to keep it.

1. Wrong. Read the ******* LAW before you post nonsense.
The CDC does all testing unless the FDA approves the outside lab test.

CLIA Law & Regulation

CDC - OPHSS - CSELS - Division of Laboratory Systems (DLS)

www.cdc.gov

https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/docs/APHL_Conference_LEI_Report_508.pdf

2. OK, the China travel ban was a good idea, also agreed that banning travel from the EU sooner would have been better.
3. OK, maybe one "hack" not two, huh? Pence is doing a great job managing the Feds response to COVID.
Trump's war on opioids is saving lives, look at the death rate for the Obama years, 2019 & 2020 should be lower yet. Overdose Death Rates
View attachment 322035
4. Agreed that 2018 was mostly about Obamacare. IMHO healthcare was better before Obamacare. We paid premiums and got good healthcare. Now we pay premiums, AND pay $10,000 deductibles and don't get "healthcare", just what we pay for. That's extortion.

#4 is bullshit. And therefore, the GOP which had both houses of Congress and the WH could not ******* repeal it. The American people did not buy into that bullshit.

But you still do.

Time for some self reflection.

 

[playtime]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

Politics News | Breaking Political News, Video & Analysis-ABC News

ABC News is your trusted source on political news stories and videos. Get the latest coverage and analysis on everything from the Trump presidency, Senate, House and Supreme Court.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

Trump did nothing for 2 months since he knew about the virus in January. He spent those 2 months in denial and accusing the Dems of a "hoax". He appointed 2 inexperienced hacks to head his response to the virus, instead of medical and science professionals. So let's look at it differently, yes? Hint: Obama care was very successful and Trump, jealous of all things Obama,
tried to kill the program rather than fix it. Oh, he promised better, cheaper healthcare to replace it. A feckless grifter.

1. Trump got the CDC and FDA and Task Force up and running in the 1st two months. The CDC was woefully inadequate for the testing capacity needed. So Trump got commercial labs involved.
2. The democrat "hoax" is alive and well, accusing Trump of mismanagement, when Biden wouldn't have implemented the travel ban, which now he approves?! Totally inept Biden, still always wrong.
3. What two "hacks" are you referring to? Pence was a governor used to managing responses to emergencies. His appointment gives the medical team the time to work on the disease, instead of trying to figure how the government works.
4. Obamacare rollout was not successful, it was a disaster, so says CNN.

Rough Obamacare rollout: 4 reasons why

It seems like a long time since Vice President Joe Biden whispered a bit too loudly to President Barack Obama that his imminent signing of the 2010 Affordable Care Act was "a big f---ing deal."

www.cnn.com

1) commercial labs were deliberately shut out of testing for COVID - & exclusively given to the CDC - which ended up giving faulty tests & their lab ended up being CONtaminated - losing us precious time to get ahead of this virus.
How the government delayed coronavirus testing
2) to donny, the (D) 'hoax' was that (D)s were saying this virus was going to explode & yes - closing the border to china was a good idea in hindsight - howeverrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - the chances are very high that the virus
A) was already here,
B) amricans scrambling to get back b4 we closed up shop, & them believing they would not be able to come home - some ended up bringing the virus back with them
C) it has been determined that the first hotspots in the US that broke out in NY - the majority of the victims were from europe - countries that donny didn't shut out until later on
3) pence was governor of indiana when HIV was rampant & his first course of action, was to close down the only planned parenthood in the state - the only facility that tested for HIV - then when his advisors were telling him to set up a needle exchange program - he decided to 'pray' instead - allowing even more people to die b4 he finally relented & the needle exchange program immediately showed results that lowered the infection rate & death toll.
4) obamacare has many faults - but overall people are happy with it - so much so, that scaring people into realizing it can be taken away (it's in the courts right now to dismantle the WHOLE thing) that townhalls were filled with people fighting to keep it & the 2018 election turnout, that flipped the house showed just how much people want to keep it.

1. Wrong. Read the ******* LAW before you post nonsense.
The CDC does all testing unless the FDA approves the outside lab test.

CLIA Law & Regulation

CDC - OPHSS - CSELS - Division of Laboratory Systems (DLS)

www.cdc.gov

https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/docs/APHL_Conference_LEI_Report_508.pdf

2. OK, the China travel ban was a good idea, also agreed that banning travel from the EU sooner would have been better.
3. OK, maybe one "hack" not two, huh? Pence is doing a great job managing the Feds response to COVID.
Trump's war on opioids is saving lives, look at the death rate for the Obama years, 2019 & 2020 should be lower yet. Overdose Death Rates
View attachment 322035
4. Agreed that 2018 was mostly about Obamacare. IMHO healthcare was better before Obamacare. We paid premiums and got good healthcare. Now we pay premiums, AND pay $10,000 deductibles and don't get "healthcare", just what we pay for. That's extortion.

ya ya ya................ & donny could have & should have waived the regs b4 any testing was to be done so it would be done on a mass scale. he waited until the tests were deemed defective & the lab was CONtaminated. that's when he decided to waive the monopoly & now we are dealing with huuuuuuuuuuuuge back logs & shortages on the components needed to perform them .

lol.... you can blame marco rubio for the hugge hike in premiums when he put a poison pill into the omnibus that scaled back the subsidies promised to bighealthcorp so they would accept the so called 'high risk corridor' & not lose their precious profits. combine that with the promise to repeal with nothing to replace thru them into a tizzy as well.

b4 the ACA, only group insurance offered guaranteed protections such as mammograms, well child visits, pregnancy coverage etc....

individual coverage did not - charging very little but offering very little coverage as well & a lot of people didn't know that until it was too late.

AND with the ACA, 80% of yer premium dollar (for individual policies) & 85% (for group policies) went directly to yer healthcare per mandated rules.

if the ACA goes away, so does that protection & the pencil pushers will be pocketing YOUR hard earned cash & say tutt tutt, too bad for you.

 

[wamose]

I think Biden will get plenty of campaign cash from China. Hell, you know they love him and would love not to have to deal with our great President Trump any more. Biden would be a pushover. Another billion dollar job for his son, Hunter, and voila, Joe will do anything they want. Hell, he'd outsource our whole defense department if they asked. That boy represents everything that is bad about rigged government.

bloomberg is bankrolling biden.

And Red China is bankrolling Bloomberg. I doubt America will elect a friend of the Communist dog eaters.

 

[LoneLaugher]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

You are crazed. We have over 500,000 cases and we will become the leading nation when it comes to deaths ( which lag infections by a week or two ) by the end of the day. In addition, we are failing to take care of citizens who are experiencing economic hardship.

A “win” for Donny, given that we are the richest and most advanced nation on earth, would be the LEAST number of infections, the LEAST number of deaths and the LEAST amount of economic hardship.

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We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the **** home.

 

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I think Biden will get plenty of campaign cash from China. Hell, you know they love him and would love not to have to deal with our great President Trump any more. Biden would be a pushover. Another billion dollar job for his son, Hunter, and voila, Joe will do anything they want. Hell, he'd outsource our whole defense department if they asked. That boy represents everything that is bad about rigged government.

bloomberg is bankrolling biden.

And Red China is bankrolling Bloomberg. I doubt America will elect a friend of the Communist dog eaters.

donny commended china on their excellent handling of the virus whilst people were dropping left & right.