Who will Obama blame for the next 4 years?

[Claudette]

You can bet it will be the fault of everyone but that ****.

Perhaps the House should just give him what he wants. When the whole place comes crashing down they can say, "Hey America. Your reelected this ****. We gave him what he wants and now look where we are." Who's to blame now? Sure as shit ain't Bush.

Of course IMO its the stupid idiots who gave this **** another four years.

 

[CrotchetyGeezer]

Or is he going to still claim it is all Bush's fault?

It's not Bush's fault. It never was Bush's fault.

In the late 70s big business and wealthy investors decided they wanted cheaper labor - specifically they wanted the higher returns that come when you make products for pennies rather than dollars.

So We spent 30 year shipping jobs to China and Taiwan and Vietnam and Honduras, etc. We made the wealthy much wealthier.

But the poor working slob had less spending money.

To make up for this, we handed out credit cards.

But you can only borrow for so long until the consumer goes broke. And that's where we are now. Consumers are too indebted to buy things. The game is over. The wealthy job shippers own Washington and they are not going to reverse the cheap labor policies.

The middle class is gone. And without their spending, the US economy cannot stay afloat.

Our problem has nothing to do with Bush. He was a pawn of the money that runs the system, like every other president.

Actually, it's not necessarily the jobs being sent overseas which bothers me. What bothers me is that not an equal number of overseas jobs are coming here, of which pay the same wages and offer the same benefits as any other job in America would pay. If two jobs here went overseas, while two overseas jobs came here, paying the appropriate wages and offering the same benefits as is custom in the United States? I wouldn't have a problem with jobs here in America being sent overseas.

 

[rdean]

We know who Republicans are going to blame. The only credit Republicans took on anything for the last 30 years has been taking out Bin Laden. And they were the ones who let him go.

No, Clinton gets that honor, TWICE. The Sudan served him up on a platter both times and wild willie passed.

Are you talking about BEFORE 9/11? The date makes all the difference. Duh!

 

[editec]

Or is he going to still claim it is all Bush's fault?

It's not Bush's fault. It never was Bush's fault.

In the late 70s big business and wealthy investors decided they wanted cheaper labor - specifically they wanted the higher returns that come when you make products for pennies rather than dollars.

So We spent 30 year shipping jobs to China and Taiwan and Vietnam and Honduras, etc. We made the wealthy much wealthier.

But the poor working slob had less spending money.

To make up for this, we handed out credit cards.

But you can only borrow for so long until the consumer goes broke. And that's where we are now. Consumers are too indebted to buy things. The game is over. The wealthy job shippers own Washington and they are not going to reverse the cheap labor policies.

The middle class is gone. And without their spending, the US economy cannot stay afloat.

Our problem has nothing to do with Bush. He was a pawn of the money that runs the system, like every other president.

MOSTLY I concur with the POV.

I do reserve the right however, the lay responsibility on the elected puppets dancing at the end of the MASTERS strings, too.

Nobody forced these people to be tools.

They were and still are well rewarded for playing their role in our shadow-puppet theater shamocracy.

 

[rdean]

Or is he going to still claim it is all Bush's fault?

It's not Bush's fault. It never was Bush's fault.

In the late 70s big business and wealthy investors decided they wanted cheaper labor - specifically they wanted the higher returns that come when you make products for pennies rather than dollars.

So We spent 30 year shipping jobs to China and Taiwan and Vietnam and Honduras, etc. We made the wealthy much wealthier.

But the poor working slob had less spending money.

To make up for this, we handed out credit cards.

But you can only borrow for so long until the consumer goes broke. And that's where we are now. Consumers are too indebted to buy things. The game is over. The wealthy job shippers own Washington and they are not going to reverse the cheap labor policies.

The middle class is gone. And without their spending, the US economy cannot stay afloat.

Our problem has nothing to do with Bush. He was a pawn of the money that runs the system, like every other president.

Actually, you are somewhat mistaken.

From 2001 to 2008, Republicans, working with the Chinese funded Chamber of Commerce helped and supported moving millions of jobs to China in numerous ways, many of which have been spelled out on this very board. Republicans try to blame it on Clinton, who merely set up a few trading posts in China. The Chamber gave seminars across the US in every major city teaching business how to move jobs to China. The invitations are still available on the web and I've linked to them several times. The Chinese funded Chamber gives to Republicans 9 to 1 over Democrats for a reason. Those tens of thousands of factories are closed. Gone. The US can only compete with a modern infrastructure and good education. Anyone who has spent time on this board knows Republicans feel investing in American infrastructure is both socialism and it hurts rich people, who are the "job creators", and education is for snobs. With Republicans in power, we are screwed. How do I know these things? Simple, they tell us.

 

[CrotchetyGeezer]

Or is he going to still claim it is all Bush's fault?

It's not Bush's fault. It never was Bush's fault.

In the late 70s big business and wealthy investors decided they wanted cheaper labor - specifically they wanted the higher returns that come when you make products for pennies rather than dollars.

So We spent 30 year shipping jobs to China and Taiwan and Vietnam and Honduras, etc. We made the wealthy much wealthier.

But the poor working slob had less spending money.

To make up for this, we handed out credit cards.

But you can only borrow for so long until the consumer goes broke. And that's where we are now. Consumers are too indebted to buy things. The game is over. The wealthy job shippers own Washington and they are not going to reverse the cheap labor policies.

The middle class is gone. And without their spending, the US economy cannot stay afloat.

Our problem has nothing to do with Bush. He was a pawn of the money that runs the system, like every other president.

Actually, you are somewhat mistaken.

From 2001 to 2008, Republicans, working with the Chinese funded Chamber of Commerce helped and supported moving millions of jobs to China in numerous ways, many of which have been spelled out on this very board. Republicans try to blame it on Clinton, who merely set up a few trading posts in China. The Chamber gave seminars across the US in every major city teaching business how to move jobs to China. The invitations are still available on the web and I've linked to them several times. The Chinese funded Chamber gives to Republicans 9 to 1 over Democrats for a reason. Those tens of thousands of factories are closed. Gone. The US can only compete with a modern infrastructure and good education. Anyone who has spent time on this board knows Republicans feel investing in American infrastructure is both socialism and it hurts rich people, who are the "job creators", and education is for snobs. With Republicans in power, we are screwed. How do I know these things? Simple, they tell us.

Oh give us some more of your crap. I remember vividly a company named Iomega, which was a considerably large employer here in my state, moving its manufacturing operations overseas during Slick's presidency.

 

[tjvh]

We know who Republicans are going to blame. The only credit Republicans took on anything for the last 30 years has been taking out Bin Laden. And they were the ones who let him go.

Wow rdean, That is one really stupid post... Even for you.

 

[Too Tall]

We know who Republicans are going to blame. The only credit Republicans took on anything for the last 30 years has been taking out Bin Laden. And they were the ones who let him go.

No, Clinton gets that honor, TWICE. The Sudan served him up on a platter both times and wild willie passed.

Are you talking about BEFORE 9/11? The date makes all the difference. Duh!

It sure as hell does. If Clinton had taken OBL down, there wouldn't have been a 9/11.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

He won't have to worry about that. He isn't worried about another election, so no point in trying to appease people or maintain his image. He can just go to town and carry out his agenda while the media sits along the sidelines like cheerleaders.

Didn't you hear? Harry Reid is floating a bill to change the Constitution allowing Oblamer to become "El Presidente" for life.

 

[Dot Com]

I'm waiting for the Liberal Nimrod's to try and change the Constitution and try to elect this guy president for life. Ugh, what a horrible thought.

you posting here is a horrible thought.

 

[Dr Grump]

I don't think he'll need to blame anybody, because he'll more likely than not leave the country in better shape than he received it from Dumbya.

 

[Rozman]

It only has a chance to stop when after blaming Bush or anyone else one lone voice in the liberal controlled media remembers his or her job and stands up and says enough Mr. President.This is your doing.

 

[ABikerSailor]

He won't have to worry about that. He isn't worried about another election, so no point in trying to appease people or maintain his image. He can just go to town and carry out his agenda while the media sits along the sidelines like cheerleaders.

Didn't you hear? Harry Reid is floating a bill to change the Constitution allowing Oblamer to become "El Presidente" for life.

Do you have a link to an actual news site, or is this more of the right wing fear mongering?

 

[ABikerSailor]

I don't think he'll need to blame anybody, because he'll more likely than not leave the country in better shape than he received it from Dumbya.

Really? In his first term, the stock market DOUBLED, housing prices started to see a comeback, and oh yeah......................it was over the 30th month for private sector POSTIVE JOB GROWTH.

Even if he left tomorrow, he'd be leaving the country better off than when Jr. had it.

 

[craner]

He won't have to worry about that. He isn't worried about another election, so no point in trying to appease people or maintain his image. He can just go to town and carry out his agenda while the media sits along the sidelines like cheerleaders.

EXACTLY!!!

 

[Claudette]

I don't think he'll need to blame anybody, because he'll more likely than not leave the country in better shape than he received it from Dumbya.

Really? In his first term, the stock market DOUBLED, housing prices started to see a comeback, and oh yeah......................it was over the 30th month for private sector POSTIVE JOB GROWTH.

Even if he left tomorrow, he'd be leaving the country better off than when Jr. had it.

Well I seem to remember that when he was reelected the market crashed big time.

Housing is still int he dumps and Obamacare is coming down the road. Companies arent' going to hire. They are already laying off.

Get back to me in four years and let me know how things are going. LOL

 

[LoneLaugher]

Only 206 more weeks to go, nutters.

 

[RoadVirus]

He won't have to worry about that. He isn't worried about another election, so no point in trying to appease people or maintain his image. He can just go to town and carry out his agenda while the media sits along the sidelines like cheerleaders.

Didn't you hear? Harry Reid is floating a bill to change the Constitution allowing Oblamer to become "El Presidente" for life.

That actually wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Dr Grump]

I don't think he'll need to blame anybody, because he'll more likely than not leave the country in better shape than he received it from Dumbya.

Really? In his first term, the stock market DOUBLED, housing prices started to see a comeback, and oh yeah......................it was over the 30th month for private sector POSTIVE JOB GROWTH.

Even if he left tomorrow, he'd be leaving the country better off than when Jr. had it.

Er, read my post again. We are agreeing. See bolded...

 

[Koios]

Or is he going to still claim it is all Bush's fault?

Nah; he'll blame what most Americans blame: Congress, with the lowest approval ever.