"Who Will Do our Farm Work if there Are Mass Deportations?" Some responses . . .

[kyzr]

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We need a New "Remittance Tax" to keep some of that in the US

 

[Anathema]

Who will do the work? We’ve got a pair of massive untapped workforces out there…. The prison population and the portion of the population collecting state and federal benefits.

The incentive is very simple…. NO WORK, NO FOOD.

It’s a win-win situation.

 

[beagle9]

American farmers should be switching to robotics.

Already have... All one has to do is watch YouTube video's on latest concepts in farming, the modern day equipment being used, and other great products or strategies used.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Already have... All one has to do is watch YouTube video's on latest concepts in farming, the modern day equipment being used, and other great products or strategies used.

I don't see any of it round here

 

[beagle9]

Who will do the work? We’ve got a pair of massive untapped workforces out there…. The prison population and the portion of the population collecting state and federal benefits.

The incentive is very simple…. NO WORK, NO FOOD.

It’s a win-win situation.

Ohhh noooo, you can't go after the poor (white man locked them up for no good reason) prison population now, ohhh hell no. Talk about a political calamity that would immediately start. You must have fell and bumped your head...

Gotta keep that white man oppressor narrative going ya know, even if whites in prison would be included in the workforce just the same. Hollywood and our media should be scrutinized severely for the political roles that they have played in the destruction of this nation. In fact some roles were so egregious that people should be going to jail (put into the same cell's as the j6ers were let out of for their falsely accused roles played in the made up fake insurrection), when we now see that it has been the leftist who bragged about their resistance roles of being part of a real insurrection in this country that has since spanned two decades or more.

 

[beagle9]

I don't see any of it round here

We'll that's because modernization and modern equipment cost big bucks, so if you have it done by cheap labor that exist off the grid in many cases, then why upgrade ? Getting old timers to change up after having it so good is likened to the old geezer who has a barn full of old car's that he won't sell, otherwise he's going to someday fix them all up someday ya know ?

Maybe they should be subsidized in so that they can upgrade to modern equipment and technology? Well if they want to run a farm, then upgrade or use farm labor legally, whether it's a mixture of migrants along with American young folks who are just cutting their teeth on work in life or using modern day technologies that lesson the impact of compromising our country by the temptation of having slave like labor forces who eventually work their ways into far more than just farming.

How many people have used the vehicle farm tag loop holes in order to get passes on things that are noted in the vehicle farm tag loop holes ? It's just another example of how the business owner's in America will exploit everything possible in order to get around the laws and rules for profits.

 

[beagle9]

We need a New "Remittance Tax" to keep some of that in the US

But how much of it was actually going to the cartels(?). It is yet another reason the situation needs to get immediately under control.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

American farmers should be switching to robotics.

Most of them have. All of the big factory farms have. I live in farm country. The harvesting is all Mechanized. There is a big warehouse being built about two miles away. The construction " crew" is one guy and a 3d printer.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We'll that's because modernization and modern equipment cost big bucks, so if you have it done by cheap labor that exist off the grid in many cases, then why upgrade ? Getting old timers to change up after having it so good is likened to the old geezer who has a barn full of old car's that he won't sell, otherwise he's going to someday fix them all up someday ya know ?

Maybe they should be subsidized in so that they can upgrade to modern equipment and technology? Well if they want to run a farm, then upgrade or use farm labor legally, whether it's a mixture of migrants along withery American young folks who are just cutting their teeth on work in lifent d9or using modern day technologies that lesson the impact of compromising our country by the temptation of having slave like labor forces who eventually work their ways into far more than just farming.

How many people have used the vehicle farm tag loop holes in order to get passes on things that are noted in the vehicle farm tag loop holes ? It's just another example of how the business owner's in America will exploit everything possible in order to get around the laws and rules for profits.

The farmers using all that expensive harvesting machinery don't own it. They rent it along with an operator. The machines can be operated day or night. The harvests go quickly. Then move on to the next. Because machines are so fast, it's cheaper to rent a harvester than pay for breaks and insurance for a full crew.

 

[gtopa1]

Gonna be a lot of Federal workers available soon; can't let the cost of Kale go up!!!!

Greg

 

[Rambunctious]

 

[egp320i]

could save money by having that fence 1/2 that high with razor wire on top.
imagine poor mexicans having a $400 extended ladder to go up, then rope to get down
imagine them with anything more than a shovel to dig under

 

[AZrailwhale]

Lot's to unpack, but first let's make sure we know what we are talking about. Here the man who can honestly be said to represent the Democratic Party thought process, Adam Schiff, asks how we can get farm work done if we deport illegals:



So, let's be sure we understand what Schiff is talking about when he says "farm labor." Remember the Steinbeck novel "Grapes of Wrath?" What those white migrant farm workers from Oklahoma went through is what current brown migrant farm workers from Mexico and other LA countries go through in California. Schiff is concerned that they night not be here to be exploited by farm owners, labor brokers and supervisory figures which in the old south were known as "overseers." I don't know what they're called now, but I imagine Schiff does, as he must worry who they will slavedrive to make sure we have plenty of avocadoes to make our guacamole.

In no particular order:

1) In Germany, they have legal migrant workers. The average farm worker makes nineteen Euros per hour. I'm sure there is roughly the same in the rest of Europe, but I know Germany. I lived in Germany for several years, and I don't remember seeing fifty dollar beets or any of the other outrages we are warned against. Why can they do it and not us?

American farmers are subsidized so that they have a guaranteed selling price for their products. When Trump gets other countries acting like partners instead of adversaries, our farmers will have a world wide market for their products, which are the best in the world. Why should the workers not share in that prosperity?

2) Schiff said that "it's estimated that perhaps half of California's farm workforce is undocumented." Given Schiff's propensity to lie at every turn, and his use of the passive voice instead of saying where that estimate comes from, it is safe to assume that it is much, much less than half. But let's pretend he's an honest person who provided a source for his statistic. If half are undocumented, then half are documented, by simple common sense. Do the undocumented half do all the work?

Of course not. Documented migrant workers, legal residents, and American citizens are perfectly capable of doing farm work. They ARE doing farm work, according to Adam Schiff's statement above. Why not simply increase the number of H-2-A visas issued and have the workforce be legal? I think it was John Henry Fauk who said stolen watermelons taste sweeter (or was it IM2?). Do Democrats believe that tomatoes picked by illegals make better Bloody Mary's after a night of drinking screwdrivers made with illegally picked oranges?

3) Will any Democrat on here state firmly that is is worth the rapes, murders, drug deaths, gang wars, child sex trafficking and exploitation of migrants to have this "cheap" farm labor? Because if we must put up with all those things in oder to have those illegal workers here, that seem an extremely high price to pay for something they call "cheap."

4) Schiff says "Americans don't want to do that work it's (chuckle) too back breaking." Really? When I was in college, I worked at UPS. My first job was unoading trailers that had been sitting in the sun for several hours and were stacked to the ceiling with packages, which I pulled from the top, placed on built-in rollers and pushed to the back so the waiting sorters could handle them. It was backbreaking work in temps well over 100 degrees and no fresh air. I was an American and I did that work.

I was motivated by money and the opportunity for advancement. I never heard the corporate execs of UPS demanding that they they be allowed to use illegal aliens so they could pay them sub-minimum wage.

So, why is it that Americans don't want to do that work? the pay is not enough. Why is raising the pay not the first answer that comes to them minds of Democrats? WHy do they immediately go to "Bring in poor immigrants. They'll have to do it, Bwah-hah-hah-hah!!"

Sorry for the long rant. By Allah! Democrats are evil scum.

Most illegals don’t farm work anymore. My guess is less than five percent.

 

[AZrailwhale]

American farmers should be switching to robotics.

More and more crops are mechanically picked today.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Farms will just become more automated with both machinery and AI.

And, for those types of work where an automaton will just not do...

We can always issue seasonal limited-time Work Visas and chip or ankle-bracelet the workers to ensure they return.

But that's only after we get complete control of the border again and flush the Unwashed Millions back across the border.

First things first.

And if that drives up the cost of lettuce or strawberries for a season or two, then... so be it...

The sooner we break our dependency on near-slave labor and take the pain and then put that pain behind us...

The happier we'll all be...

Make the farmer post a bond for each crop worker refundable only as the crop worker crosses the border back into Mexico or Canada.

 

[beagle9]

The farmers using all that expensive harvesting machinery don't own it. They rent it along with an operator. The machines can be operated day or night. The harvests go quickly. Then move on to the next. Because machines are so fast, it's cheaper to rent a harvester than pay for breaks and insurance for a full crew.

The entire illegal immigrantion or legal immigration issue has become a political one that is using human beings as fuel in a political battle.

Like everyone knows, it is that the modern day farms are no longer these heavy intense human labor factories that need hundreds upon hundreds of men and women on each farm still picking, plowing or harvesting crops by hand. Very few farms are still in the pre-modernized stages these day's, although there are those that are still out there in various parts of the farm industries or nation that need hand pickers.

So where are all these laborer's that are temporary or illegal going these days ?

Just ask a leftist or liberal, and they'll tell you.

They are wiping their liberal ace's after they sit down to take a chit or they are doing their laundries, cleaning their yards, walking their dog's, cleaning their hotel room's, working in their rich relatives factories under the table, washing their car's, trimming their tree's, building their condo's on their beach front properties, keeping their golf courses clean and manicured, doing their dry cleaning, and etc. Probably left out a lot more, but everyone knows the deal.

Where are the American young folk's that once did a majority of this work as starter jobs back in the day now ? They are being killed by the pusher and trafficking drug cartel's (how convenient), who are of course sending drug's across the border in mass quantities.....It is all shockingly being aided and abetted by American corrupt insiders, who might hope maybe to wipe out future American's (in a bid to replace these future American's for whom they hate with a passion it seems now), with an almost forced by design servitude underclass of people for whom they feel will slave away for them for pennies on a dollar without question....

Why ? Is it in a bid to run some kind of replacement scheme or plan to slowly change what the human landscape looks like in America for the love of creating the 1800's once again maybe ?

We need answer's, and we need them quick, because we might have so many traitors and treasonous Americans that have actually undermined this nation with this plan or thinking, that it's truly a giant scandal that is being uncovered in it all now.

 

[beagle9]

Make the farmer post a bond for each crop worker refundable only as the crop worker crosses the border back into Mexico or Canada.

Now we're talking...

It's time to start using innovative thinking and methods to address this stuff, and what you stated could become a start.

 

[dudmuck]

Most illegals don’t farm work anymore. My guess is less than five percent.

all the workers are from the same ethic group, so its not possible to tell documented status just by looking.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We'll that's because modernization and modern equipment cost big bucks, so if you have it done by cheap labor that exist off the grid in many cases, then why upgrade ? Getting old timers to change up after having it so good is likened to the old geezer who has a barn full of old car's that he won't sell, otherwise he's going to someday fix them all up someday ya know ?

Maybe they should be subsidized in so that they can upgrade to modern equipment and technology? Well if they want to run a farm, then upgrade or use farm labor legally, whether it's a mixture of migrants along with American young folks who are just cutting their teeth on work in life or using modern day technologies that lesson the impact of compromising our country by the temptation of having slave like labor forces who eventually work their ways into far more than just farming.

How many people have used the vehicle farm tag loop holes in order to get passes on things that are noted in the vehicle farm tag loop holes ? It's just another example of how the business owner's in America will exploit everything possible in order to get around the laws and rules for profits.

The modern equipment and technology is rented. It ends up costing. Way way less than hand labor. Especially since machinery is so much faster. Machines can work 24 hours a day. No lunch breaks, no insurance, nothing. Just a pleasant hum and money in the bank.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

all the workers are from the same ethic group, so its not possible to tell documented status just by looking.

That's where the 300,000 missing children went
To the farms to pick your

Dumbass