Who voted for this?

Did you vote for Trump because you wanted broad tariffs which cause inflation?

  • Yes, we needed more American jobs, even if it increases inflation.

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • Yes, when you tax imports they don't get more expensive to consumers.

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • No, I wanted him to bring down prices instead of making things more expensive.

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • Voted against Trump - he has bad ideas and his tariff wars are bad for our economy.

    Votes: 9 36.0%
  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 10 40.0%

  • Total voters
    25
Trump didn’t say anything about cancelling the chant Chinese. Trump demanded the return of the canal and that’s not gonna happen.

So now he’s pretending that he got what he wanted because he embarrassed himself in front of the world, and the world is laughing at him

Trudeau told him what he wanted to hear, but Trudo is not doing anything. The fentanyl in Canada is coming FROM the US it’s not going to it.

It is up to Americans to stop illegal immigration into your country. If you were to start arresting people for hiring illegal immigrants, then stop really fucking fast.

Canada prosecutes employers of illegal immigrants. Vigorously. They will track down every call phoney contribution to withholding and go after the employers $10,000 fine per illegal employee.

Trump doesn’t prosecute it illegal employers because he’s one of them. You were elected a neon who contributes to your illegal immigration problem and then expects you to pay for it.

You’re gonna have to keep your fat old dotard on a strong leash, because the rest of the world isn’t going to deal with him or you because you can’t be trusted

There is no point in making deals with liars who will tear them up the moment you walk away. The world learned that lesson long ago with Trump.
Yeah he did, you clearly weren’t paying attention.

Hey and maybe your PM lied, if so the tariffs come down in 30 days. I hope for your sake he didn’t, and will do the right thing in fighting drug trafficking and terrorist

I agree there is no point in making deals with liars. We will see if your PM is as big a liar as you claim
 
So sorry that you and reality are no longer on speaking terms

I'm very much living in reality. We have no right wing billionaire owned media in Canada, lying to us and tell us what a great job Trump is doing. We have world media, which isn't trying to gaslight us into accepting Trump's coup as being good for the USA or your economy.

Next up, Trump will end the minimum wage, because oligarchs refuse to pay first world wages for American workers. Trump will tell you the companies can't afford to pay $7.50 per hour and it's necessary to make America great again.

Unlike you, I read Project 2025. Nothing that is happening is a surprise at all.
 
I'm very much living in reality. We have no right wing billionaire owned media in Canada, lying to us and tell us what a great job Trump is doing. We have world media, which isn't trying to gaslight us into accepting Trump's coup as being good for the USA or your economy.

Next up, Trump will end the minimum wage, because oligarchs refuse to pay first world wages for American workers. Trump will tell you the companies can't afford to pay $7.50 per hour and it's necessary to make America great again.

Unlike you, I read Project 2025. Nothing that is happening is a surprise at all.
Who only pays min wage? Why are you dembots always concerned with how little you can make?
 
I'm very much living in reality. We have no right wing billionaire owned media in Canada, lying to us and tell us what a great job Trump is doing. We have world media, which isn't trying to gaslight us into accepting Trump's coup as being good for the USA or your economy.

Next up, Trump will end the minimum wage, because oligarchs refuse to pay first world wages for American workers. Trump will tell you the companies can't afford to pay $7.50 per hour and it's necessary to make America great again.

Unlike you, I read Project 2025. Nothing that is happening is a surprise at all.
Inflation, government spending, the Fed and Satanic pedophile Globalists have destroyed the ability of low income people to be self sufficient. More government is NOT the answer
 
Well, there you go again, deflecting because you can't direcly address what you quote.

Does Obama saying something refute basic non-partisan economics? Of course not, you just don't seem to know much of anything about them so you run to your safe space to talk about Obama.

Does Obama saying something refute basic non-partisan economics?

Well, your Obama meme makes more sense now, neither one of you has
a clue about economics.

I have already directly addressed your error.

Tariffs don't cause inflation.
 
I have already directly addressed your error.

Tariffs don't cause inflation.

No you didn't.

All you did was baselessly assert same based-on-nothing claims that tarrifs don't cause inflation when plain common sense, bussines owners and just about all economists say they are inflationary.


You have a bad tendency to firmly belive things you can't reasonably articulate, so your responses devolve into deflections and unconstructive assertiveness.
 
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No you didn't.

All you did was baselessly assert same based-on-nothing claims that tarrifs don't cause inflation when plain common sense, bussines owners and just about all economists say they are inflationary.


You have a bad tendency to belive things you can't reasonably articulate, so your responses devolve into deflections and unconstructive assertiveness.

"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon" is a famous quote by economist Milton Friedman, meaning that sustained inflation is primarily caused by an excessive increase in the money supply within an economy, and is therefore fundamentally related to monetary policy rather than other factors.
 
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon" is a famous quote by economist Milton Friedman, meaning that sustained inflation is primarily caused by an excessive increase in the money supply within an economy, and is therefore fundamentally related to monetary policy rather than other factors.

Thats just another deflection - sure, we can tighten the monetary policy to OFFSET tarrif inflation in the mid-term...but thats a pain in it's own and Trump wants THE OPPOSITE on that too.

Why don't you read what Milton explains about economic effects of tarrifs and why he was fundamentally against them.
 
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Thats just another deflection - sure, we can tighten the monetary policy to OFFSET tarrif inflation in the mid-term...but thats a pain in it's own and Trump wants THE OPPOSITE on that too.

Why don't you read what Milton explains about economic effects of tarrifs and why he was fundamentally against them.

Prices rising on some imports does not cause inflation.
If more is paid for them, less is available to spend on other goods.
Fewer of the other goods will be bought or their prices will fall.
Without an increase in the money supply, general price levels will not increase.

Why don't you read what Milton explains about economic effects of tariffs

Why don't you read what he says about inflation?
 
Prices rising on some imports does not cause inflation.
If more is paid for them, less is available to spend on other goods.
Fewer of the other goods will be bought or their prices will fall.
Without an increase in the money supply, general price levels will not increase.

Why don't you read what Milton explains about economic effects of tariffs

Why don't you read what he says about inflation?

Trump is not talking about tarrifs on some specific imports. You know that, so again a deflection.

Milton is clear on tarrifs causing things to be more expensive, thats a fact. You citing him for support just shows that you don't really understand his position on it.

"We call a tariff a protective measure. It does protect; it protects the consumer very well against one thing. It protects the consumer against low prices." - Milton Friedman.

 
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Trump is not talking about tarrifs on some specific imports. You know that, so again a deflection.

Milton is clear on tarrifs causing things to be more expensive, thats a fact. You citing him for support just shows that you don't really understand his position on it.

"We call a tariff a protective measure. It does protect; it protects the consumer very well against one thing. It protects the consumer against low prices." - Milton Friedman.


If you want to claim that tariffs are bad for the economy, but not inflationary, I'll agree.
 
If you want to claim that tariffs are bad for the economy, but not inflationary, I'll agree.
Thats nice, but they are inflationary, as common reason and just about any economist including Milton would explain it to you.

Your stubborn denials based on nothing are confounding.
 
I voted for it. It’s time that we returned to an AMERICA ONLY mentality. Isolationism, Nationalism, and the understanding that we do not actually have any Allie’s in the rest of the world. Until we do that, we cannot truly become the nation we ought to be.
 
I'm just trying to figure out who the hell voted for Trump specifically so he can put in place broad tariffs against our biggest trading partners.

I personally know many Trump voters, not a single one of them wanted any of this.

Tariffs are tool fool...look how fast these countries folded 😎
 
Tariffs are tool fool...look how fast these countries folded 😎

Ok but if there is nobody that actually supports tariffs and everyone knows it's a short term bluff, then it's not much of a tool.

You don't think other countries understand this?

Canada for example didn't fold, for now Trump folded and all we are left with are degraded relations with our closest ally.
 
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Well, there you go again, deflecting because you can't direcly address what you quote.

Does Obama saying something refute basic non-partisan economics? Of course not, you just don't seem to know much of anything about them so you run to your safe space to talk about Obama.
inflation is AN increase in price of goods (and services) CAUSED BY THE >>>FED<<< PRINTING PAPER MONEY .

"Peter argues that it is absolutely critical that Americans see inflation as a deliberate, albeit subtle, tax:

“The best way to look at inflation is a tax. Inflation is what we pay for the government that we don’t pay for with the income tax or the Social Security tax or a sales tax. Basically, the deficits, the Federal budget deficits– we end up funding them by inflation. And those deficits are about to skyrocket. They’ve been skyrocketing. And so the inflation tax is going to be much bigger in 2025 than it was this year regardless of what the Fed is trying to tell us.”


If company A increases prices due to (a) demand ; (2)an increased in the cost of business that IS NOT inflation
 
inflation is AN increase in price of goods (and services) CAUSED BY THE >>>FED<<< PRINTING PAPER MONEY .

"Peter argues that it is absolutely critical that Americans see inflation as a deliberate, albeit subtle, tax:

“The best way to look at inflation is a tax. Inflation is what we pay for the government that we don’t pay for with the income tax or the Social Security tax or a sales tax. Basically, the deficits, the Federal budget deficits– we end up funding them by inflation. And those deficits are about to skyrocket. They’ve been skyrocketing. And so the inflation tax is going to be much bigger in 2025 than it was this year regardless of what the Fed is trying to tell us.”


If company A increases prices due to (a) demand ; (2)an increased in the cost of business that IS NOT inflation

Do you support higher interest rates (tightened monetary policy) to offset Trump's tarriff inflation?

This idea that that you can restrict money supply without any downsides is just an ignorant fantasy.
 
Do you support higher interest rates (tightened monetary policy) to offset Trump's tarriff inflation?
You brain is fucked up beyond recognition


IF IF President Trump levies a tariff on Canadian Products that will ONLY ONLY ONLY affect those AMericans who insist in buying Canadian Products.

You can easily find the same products made in the UK, Germany, Switzerland, etc.
 
IF IF President Trump levies a tariff on Canadian Products that will ONLY ONLY ONLY affect those AMericans who insist in buying Canadian Products.

You can easily find the same products made in the UK, Germany, Switzerland, etc.

There is a reason we get products form Canada - it is cost effective, not because of some sort of charity.

Sure, you can supplant this trade by buying the product elsewhere or producing it domenstically but in general the efficiency of why it was bought from Canada in the first place is lost.
 
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