Who voted for this?

[Toddsterpatriot]

How do you imagine stores could afford to not raise prices if the product costs them twice as much?

Do you understand what you are saying?

Stores which import from Canada and Mexico would definitely raise prices
if the tariffs increased their costs. No question.

So why were goods in your example suddenly 100% more expensive to produce?
Do you understand the point you're trying to make?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'm still waiting for you to explain what Canada gave Trump except a big fat fuck-you.

Trump claimed it was a 1.3 billion border deal, but that deal was from December. So what is our gain for Trump pissing off Canadians?

Trump claimed it was a 1.3 billion border deal, but that deal was from December.

They made that deal after Trump was elected? Why would they do that? DURR

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I'm still waiting for you to explain what Canada gave Trump except a big fat fuck-you.

Trump claimed it was a 1.3 billion border deal, but that deal was from December. So what is our gain for Trump riling up the markets and pissing off Canadians?

You are a profoundly ignorant democrat. I gave you the information but, being a democrat you ignore it. So, go on being a democrat.

Meanwhile, Trump WINS yet again.

 

[BackAgain]

If only you'd actually do that and just ignore instead of wasting people's time with your useless, unconstructive troll posts.

As are many of your shitlib trolls, you’re confused even about the meaning of the term “troll.”

Anyway, cry your widdle eyes out. I wouldn’t dignify one of your idiotic “pulls” by replying to it via a “vote.”

M answer to your ignorant and befuddled thread headline remains unchanged.

The voters who chose Trump voted for this.

Now take you stupid mindless troll question and stuff it.

 

[AntonToo]

Stores which import from Canada and Mexico would definitely raise prices
if the tariffs increased their costs. No question.

So why were goods in your example suddenly 100% more expensive to produce?
Do you understand the point you're trying to make?

Lets take tomatoes:

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We get most of them from Canada and Mexico - are you seriously going to tell me there will not be an increase to the consumer goods basket if suddenly these tomatoes are 25% more expensive? Certainly in short term prices are going up, inflation going up and domestic production of tomatoes will probably become more lucrative increasing labor demand state-side in the mid-long term.

 

[AntonToo]

You are a profoundly ignorant democrat. I gave you the information but, being a democrat you ignore it. So, go on being a democrat.

You gave me a link to New York Times article you didn't seem to read, because it told you the same thing I did.

P.S. it's Democrat to you.

 

[AntonToo]

Trump claimed it was a 1.3 billion border deal, but that deal was from December.

They made that deal after Trump was elected? Why would they do that? DURR

A good deal is not a good deal if Trump was not involved? Thats some cult shit.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Lets take tomatoes:

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We get most of them from Canada and Mexico - are you seriously going to tell me there will not be an increase to the consumer goods basket if suddenly these tomatoes are 25% more expensive? Certainly in short term prices are going up, inflation going up and domestic production of tomatoes will probably become more lucrative increasing labor demand state-side in the mid-long term.

Yes, if tomatoes get more expensive because of tariffs, we'll pay more for tomatoes.
That's not inflation.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A good deal is not a good deal if Trump was not involved? Thats some cult shit.

You think that deal would have happened if Harris had won? LOL!

That's funny shit alright.

 

[dudmuck]

Yes, if tomatoes get more expensive because of tariffs, we'll pay more for tomatoes.
That's not inflation.

the definition of inflation is literally "An increase in the general level of prices or in the cost of living."

 

[AntonToo]

Yes, if tomatoes get more expensive because of tariffs, we'll pay more for tomatoes.
That's not inflation.

Are you even hearing yourself?

Imagine Biden coming out and saying "I know things like tomatoes cost you more, but don't you worry Americans, there is no inflation". Your left eye would violently twitch in protest.


What you saying defies plain common sense and even the very guy who you cited for believing it - Milton Friedman. You've lost interest in listening to him, but bizzarely you still insist on believing in your false understanding of his position on inflationary effects.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

the definition of inflation is literally "An increase in the general level of prices or in the cost of living."

Exactly.
That's why tariffs don't cause inflation.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Are you even hearing yourself?

Imagine Biden coming out and saying "I know things like tomatoes cost you more, but don't you worry Americans, there is no inflation". Your left eye would violently twitch in protest.


What you saying defies plain common sense and even the very guy who you cited for believing it - Milton Friedman. You've lost interest in listening to him, but bizzarely you still insist on believing in your false understanding of his position on inflationary effects.

Blah, blah, blah.

Unless the money supply is increasing such that all prices can increase, it's not inflation.
One thing gets more expensive, other things get less expensive to compensate.

Sorry, not inflation.

What you saying defies plain common sense and even the very guy who you cited for believing it - Milton Friedman.

What did I say that defies Milton Friedman?

 

[AntonToo]

Unless the money supply is increasing such that all prices can increase, it's not inflation.
One thing gets more expensive, other things get less expensive to compensate.

Your theory is plainly wrong.

What you are missing is that standard inflation measure is only about day-to-day consumer spending and when nescessities (like tomatoes) get more expensive people start to spend more on that and less on things like real estate, retirement and other investments which are excluded from CPI.

Consumer Price Index Frequently Asked Questions

Consumer Price Index Frequently Asked Questions

www.bls.gov

Table 1. Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U): U. S. city average, by expenditure category - 2025 M02 Results

www.bls.gov

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Your theory is plainly wrong.

What you are missing is that standard inflation measure is only about day-to-day consumer spending and when nescessities (like tomatoes) get more expensive people start to spend more on that and less on things like real estate, retirement and other investments which are excluded from CPI.

Consumer Price Index Frequently Asked Questions

Consumer Price Index Frequently Asked Questions

www.bls.gov

when nescessities (like tomatoes) get more expensive people start to spend more on that and less on things like real estate, retirement and other investments which are excluded from CPI.

And less on things that are included in CPI. DURR

We imported $412 billion from Canada last year and $505 billion from Mexico.
25% of $917 billion is about $229 billion. In a $29 trillion economy.
Less than 0.8%.

Somehow, I think we'll survive.

 

[AntonToo]

when nescessities (like tomatoes) get more expensive people start to spend more on that and less on things like real estate, retirement and other investments which are excluded from CPI.

And less on things that are included in CPI. DURR

You are not posting like someone who understood what you've read.

People spending less on investments, savings and real estate because tomatoes and other nescesseties get more expensive IN FACT increases inflation because it's standard measure includes only day-to-day spending.

It's not complicated, so you are either plaing stupid because you don't want to admit it or you ARE stupid.

Which one is it?

 

[AntonToo]

We imported $412 billion from Canada last year and $505 billion from Mexico.
25% of $917 billion is about $229 billion. In a $29 trillion economy.
Less than 0.8%.

Somehow, I think we'll survive.

So your support standard for Trump's economic policy is....we'll survive it somehow.

 

[Nostra]

So your support standard for Trump's economic policy is....we'll survive it somehow.

Can you link us up to the pissy pants thread you started when Biden imposed tariffs on China AntonToo ?

 

[dudmuck]

Exactly.
That's why tariffs don't cause inflation.

wall street economists say they will cause inflation, and lower growth.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You are not posting like someone who understood what you've read.

People spending less on investments, savings and real estate because tomatoes and other nescesseties get more expensive IN FACT increases inflation because it's standard measure includes only day-to-day spending.

It's not complicated, so you are either plaing stupid because you don't want to admit it or you ARE stupid.

Which one is it?

I'm not going to reduce the 15% going into my 401K because Mexican tomatoes
are 25% more expensive.

it's standard measure includes only day-to-day spending.

How much is rent and OER going to decline with all the deportations?
That should be a decent drop in CPI, eh?