Who thought the bailout wouldnt work....i did

[sealybobo]

Oh no! HUGE difference between Kevin and you. HUGE!!! You're a fucking moron, he is smart. I might not agree with him all the time, but its usually just symantics. He makes a lot of sense. You make none.

The relief that I don't make sense to a mentally unbalanced lunatic, with the damnedest persecution complex I've ever encountered, is of no end.

What about the rich who worry Obama is going to persecute them? Or what about the broke asses like you who argue for them?

Persecute means Mistreatment of an individual or group by another group.

HOUSEHOLD INCOME DROPPED $1700 SINCE BUSH TOOK OFFICE

1.1 MILLION PEOPLE FELL OUT OF THE
MIDDLE CLASS AND INTO POVERTY IN 2004

NEARLY 46 MILLION AMERICANS LACK HEALTH INSURANCE: NUMBER OF UNINSURED INCREASED BY SIX MILLION SINCE 2001

Share of National Income Going To Wages and Salaries at Record Low in 2006
Share of Income Going to Corporate Profits at Record High

You keep your head buried Dude. Or, now that the Dems are in charge, let us see you be the one with the real persecution complex.


All coincidence, huh?

 

[AllieBaba]

Dumbass. The poverty level changes on a regular basis. When you RAISE THE POVERTY LEVEL you increase the numbers of those who fall below it.

Just like when you RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE you essentially de-value the dollar.

Basic economics, dildo. I mean bobo.

 

[sealybobo]

Dumbass. The poverty level changes on a regular basis. When you RAISE THE POVERTY LEVEL you increase the numbers of those who fall below it.

Just like when you RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE you essentially de-value the dollar.

Basic economics, dildo. I mean bobo.

The dollar is whatever the Federal Reserve says it is.

Or, it is worth whatever you think it is worth. Vibrator for the vajayjay.

 

[AllieBaba]

In other words, your blather about the increased number of those who fall under the poverty level means nothing.

Tell us something we don't already know.

 

[Oddball]

What about the rich who worry Obama is going to persecute them? Or what about the broke asses like you who argue for them?

Persecute means Mistreatment of an individual or group by another group.

HOUSEHOLD INCOME DROPPED $1700 SINCE BUSH TOOK OFFICE

1.1 MILLION PEOPLE FELL OUT OF THE
MIDDLE CLASS AND INTO POVERTY IN 2004

NEARLY 46 MILLION AMERICANS LACK HEALTH INSURANCE: NUMBER OF UNINSURED INCREASED BY SIX MILLION SINCE 2001

Share of National Income Going To Wages and Salaries at Record Low in 2006
Share of Income Going to Corporate Profits at Record High

You keep your head buried Dude. Or, now that the Dems are in charge, let us see you be the one with the real persecution complex.


All coincidence, huh?

No coincidence, man........

 

[sealybobo]

Dumbass. The poverty level changes on a regular basis. When you RAISE THE POVERTY LEVEL you increase the numbers of those who fall below it.

Just like when you RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE you essentially de-value the dollar.

Basic economics, dildo. I mean bobo.

Are you suggesting that raising the poverty level is the only reason more people fell into poverty under Bush?

People's incomes actually went down. They didn't stay the same. If they just stayed the same and we raised the number that qualifies you as "poverty" then maybe you would have a point.

But you don't have a point:

Household Income Declined by Nearly $1,700 Under Bush. For the second consecutive year, median household income declined: income dropped last year by $93 -- down to $44,389. In real terms, median household income has declined by $1,669 since 2000.

Before President Bush took office, under Democratic leadership, income was on the rise, jobs were expanding, and the economy was booming. Today, the Census Bureau announced that real household income has decreased in 2004, falling for the fourth consecutive year. Since the beginning of the Bush Administration, household income has declined nearly $1,700. Over 1.1 million people fell out of the middle class into poverty in 2004, an increase of 5.4 million people living in poverty since Bush took office. Despite this, Republicans still have no plan to help struggling middle class families. Democrats are fighting to create jobs and keep good paying jobs here at home.

Average Earnings by Women Declined by About $330 in Real Dollars During the Past Year. The median earnings of women declined over the past year, from $31,550 to $31,223. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05; Table A-2]

1.1 MILLION PEOPLE FELL OUT OF THE
MIDDLE CLASS AND INTO POVERTY IN 2004
Number of People Living in Poverty Increased by 1.1 Million in 2004. Approximately 1.1 million people fell out of the middle class into poverty in 2004, an increase of 5.4 million people living in poverty since Bush took office in 2001. The poverty rate has increased from 12.5 to 12.7 percent over the past year, increasing for the fourth consecutive year. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05; Table B-1]

Nearly 1 in 5 American Children Lived in Poverty During 2004. 13 million children lived in poverty in 2004, an increase of about 1.4 million since the beginning of the Bush Administration. This comes on the heels of a 730,000 increase in the number of children living in poverty in 2003. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05; Table B-2 ]

Disproportionately High Number of African Americans and Latinos Live in Poverty. Nearly 25 percent of all African Americans (9 million) lived in poverty in 2004, an increase of over 250,000 over the past two years. Nearly 22 percent (9.1 million) of Latinos lived in poverty, an increase of almost 500,000 over the past two years. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05; Table 3]

1.9 Million More Americans Enrolled in Medicaid in 2004. As 1.1 million Americans dropped out of the middle class and into poverty in 2004, the enrollment rate in Medicaid increased from 12.4 percent of the population in 2003 to 12.9 percent in 2004. Without the safety net of Medicaid and SCHIP for people who dropped into poverty, the health insurance numbers would be even worse. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05, page 16 ]

The Democratic Party

Link me baby if you got anything that backs up what you say.

 

[sealybobo]

What about the rich who worry Obama is going to persecute them? Or what about the broke asses like you who argue for them?

Persecute means Mistreatment of an individual or group by another group.

HOUSEHOLD INCOME DROPPED $1700 SINCE BUSH TOOK OFFICE

1.1 MILLION PEOPLE FELL OUT OF THE
MIDDLE CLASS AND INTO POVERTY IN 2004

NEARLY 46 MILLION AMERICANS LACK HEALTH INSURANCE: NUMBER OF UNINSURED INCREASED BY SIX MILLION SINCE 2001

Share of National Income Going To Wages and Salaries at Record Low in 2006
Share of Income Going to Corporate Profits at Record High

You keep your head buried Dude. Or, now that the Dems are in charge, let us see you be the one with the real persecution complex.


All coincidence, huh?

No coincidence, man........

Waaa!! The Dems want to make me pay for other peoples healthcare!! Waaaa!!! They want to spread the wealth!!!

Waaa!!! They are socialists!!! Waaaa!!! They want to raise my taxes!!! Which is actually just letting Bush's bullshit tax breaks expire as they were intended to.

Waaaa!!! You don't even get bush's tax breaks because you don't make enough.

Fucking whiner.

Stop blaming the government for your woes. You are responsible for you. Anyone can make it in America. Don't be a whiner.

Waaa!!! The Dems are going to put our grandkids in debt!!!

Waaa!!! The Dems are making us less safe!!! Waaaa!!!

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

What about the rich who worry Obama is going to persecute them? Or what about the broke asses like you who argue for them?

Persecute means Mistreatment of an individual or group by another group.

HOUSEHOLD INCOME DROPPED $1700 SINCE BUSH TOOK OFFICE

1.1 MILLION PEOPLE FELL OUT OF THE
MIDDLE CLASS AND INTO POVERTY IN 2004

NEARLY 46 MILLION AMERICANS LACK HEALTH INSURANCE: NUMBER OF UNINSURED INCREASED BY SIX MILLION SINCE 2001

Share of National Income Going To Wages and Salaries at Record Low in 2006
Share of Income Going to Corporate Profits at Record High

You keep your head buried Dude. Or, now that the Dems are in charge, let us see you be the one with the real persecution complex.


All coincidence, huh?

No coincidence, man........

Waaa!! The Dems want to make me pay for other peoples healthcare!! Waaaa!!! They want to spread the wealth!!!

Waaa!!! They are socialists!!! Waaaa!!! They want to raise my taxes!!! Which is actually just letting Bush's bullshit tax breaks expire as they were intended to.

Waaaa!!! You don't even get bush's tax breaks because you don't make enough.

Fucking whiner.

Stop blaming the government for your woes. You are responsible for you. Anyone can make it in America. Don't be a whiner.

Waaa!!! The Dems are going to put our grandkids in debt!!!

Waaa!!! The Dems are making us less safe!!! Waaaa!!!

If I'm responsible for myself then I really don't want the government stealing my money.

 

[Oddball]

Waaa!! The Dems want to make me pay for other peoples healthcare!! Waaaa!!! They want to spread the wealth!!!

Waaa!!! They are socialists!!! Waaaa!!! They want to raise my taxes!!! Which is actually just letting Bush's bullshit tax breaks expire as they were intended to.

Waaaa!!! You don't even get bush's tax breaks because you don't make enough.

Fucking whiner.

Stop blaming the government for your woes. You are responsible for you. Anyone can make it in America. Don't be a whiner.

Waaa!!! The Dems are going to put our grandkids in debt!!!

Waaa!!! The Dems are making us less safe!!! Waaaa!!!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!!!

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Okay I know this is an old subject, but I think it needs to be brought up again so we can learn from our mistakes. That money should have never gone to those corporations. If AIG, and others weren't smart enough to save money, put that rainy day money away, and had proper management in terms of where the corporation was heading, they would not need a bailout. I thought the whole idea behind the free enterprise that we have is for big companies to fall and smaller companies to take over. I thought it was all about competition, not favortism.

My friend figured out that if we were to give that 700 billion dollar bailout, to the American households (thats the key word, not individuals), that were under $70,000 yearly income, combined or not, each household would recieve roughly $23,450. Now imagine a household with that much money, how much they could pay off with that. All that money would circle around and it would eventually get to these major corporations. There would be no houses lost, no cars taken away, and credit cards would be paid off. Wouldnt that boost the economy more?

I personally believe throwing money to corporations like AIG, and these banks, is like throwing money into a black hole. Not result came from it, and it's gone forever. Oh didn't I mention that those corporations we threw that money at is still seeing losses? So in this economic ressession we are in, was it wise to throw away 700 billion dollars?

Thats just my opinion anyway.

http://eipnetworks.com/scamwow.mp3

 

[AllieBaba]

Dumbass. The poverty level changes on a regular basis. When you RAISE THE POVERTY LEVEL you increase the numbers of those who fall below it.

Just like when you RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE you essentially de-value the dollar.

Basic economics, dildo. I mean bobo.

Are you suggesting that raising the poverty level is the only reason more people fell into poverty under Bush?

People's incomes actually went down. They didn't stay the same. If they just stayed the same and we raised the number that qualifies you as "poverty" then maybe you would have a point.

But you don't have a point:

Household Income Declined by Nearly $1,700 Under Bush. For the second consecutive year, median household income declined: income dropped last year by $93 -- down to $44,389. In real terms, median household income has declined by $1,669 since 2000.

Before President Bush took office, under Democratic leadership, income was on the rise, jobs were expanding, and the economy was booming. Today, the Census Bureau announced that real household income has decreased in 2004, falling for the fourth consecutive year. Since the beginning of the Bush Administration, household income has declined nearly $1,700. Over 1.1 million people fell out of the middle class into poverty in 2004, an increase of 5.4 million people living in poverty since Bush took office. Despite this, Republicans still have no plan to help struggling middle class families. Democrats are fighting to create jobs and keep good paying jobs here at home.

Average Earnings by Women Declined by About $330 in Real Dollars During the Past Year. The median earnings of women declined over the past year, from $31,550 to $31,223. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05; Table A-2]

1.1 MILLION PEOPLE FELL OUT OF THE
MIDDLE CLASS AND INTO POVERTY IN 2004
Number of People Living in Poverty Increased by 1.1 Million in 2004. Approximately 1.1 million people fell out of the middle class into poverty in 2004, an increase of 5.4 million people living in poverty since Bush took office in 2001. The poverty rate has increased from 12.5 to 12.7 percent over the past year, increasing for the fourth consecutive year. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05; Table B-1]

Nearly 1 in 5 American Children Lived in Poverty During 2004. 13 million children lived in poverty in 2004, an increase of about 1.4 million since the beginning of the Bush Administration. This comes on the heels of a 730,000 increase in the number of children living in poverty in 2003. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05; Table B-2 ]

Disproportionately High Number of African Americans and Latinos Live in Poverty. Nearly 25 percent of all African Americans (9 million) lived in poverty in 2004, an increase of over 250,000 over the past two years. Nearly 22 percent (9.1 million) of Latinos lived in poverty, an increase of almost 500,000 over the past two years. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05; Table 3]

1.9 Million More Americans Enrolled in Medicaid in 2004. As 1.1 million Americans dropped out of the middle class and into poverty in 2004, the enrollment rate in Medicaid increased from 12.4 percent of the population in 2003 to 12.9 percent in 2004. Without the safety net of Medicaid and SCHIP for people who dropped into poverty, the health insurance numbers would be even worse. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05, page 16 ]

The Democratic Party

Link me baby if you got anything that backs up what you say.

Yawn. I've linked you to death. You can't or don't read, you're willfully ignorant, and you spout lies as if they are God's honest truth.

the link you've provided doesn't provide any sort of reputable back up to the lies you spew. PROVE what you say. It isn't my job to prove you're wrong, nitwit. If you're going to make outrageous claims, the onus of evidence is on you, not me.

You've never proven one stupid idiotic statement you've ever made, dildo. Which is why nobody, even the true-blue liberals on this site, take you seriously.

 

[Oddball]

But...But....but....But.....But....

GEORGE BOOOOOOOOOSH!!!

And....and.....and....and....

The corporations, especially HALLIBURTON!!!!

And...and...and....and...

Dick Cheney, running the shadow gubmint from the basement of Wal-Mart!!!!!!!

 

[Midnight Marauder]

But...But....but....But.....But....

GEORGE BOOOOOOOOOSH!!!

And....and.....and....and....

The corporations, especially HALLIBURTON!!!!

And...and...and....and...

Dick Cheney, running the shadow gubmint from the basement of Wal-Mart!!!!!!!

-10 for style points, you didn't misspell "halliburton" or "Cheney" or "corporations" like these mindless goofs do! AND, you forgot to mention their GE worship!

Remember: GE good, Halliburton and "big oil" BAD!

Shape up, Man!

 

[KittenKoder]

But but ... GE is working to "protect the environuts" ... erm ... I mean -ment.

 

[Itsmethatguy]

so congress is giving GE another 30 million dollars to pull out of brankruptcy....i totally thought the money they gave them the first time would save them.....gee guess not. So lets throw more money at a blackhole, thatll save it. what happened to government staying out of the competition?

 

[sealybobo]

But...But....but....But.....But....

GEORGE BOOOOOOOOOSH!!!

And....and.....and....and....

The corporations, especially HALLIBURTON!!!!

And...and...and....and...

Dick Cheney, running the shadow gubmint from the basement of Wal-Mart!!!!!!!

Don't forget the bankers that own the GOP. They didn't just take $750 bill, they took an additional 2 trillion you don't even know about.

They might also own the Dems too, but we can take the Dems back. No chance in hell of getting the GOP to side with us. The bankers are their base.

Actually, we could even take back the GOP if you right wingers would ever wake up and get your heads out of your asses. You side with corporations so much that you end up defending the bankers too. You don't realize it because you are brainwashed.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

because you are brainwashed.

Says the programmed moron. I don't say "brainwashed" because I wouldn't give you credit for having a brain in the first place.

You're just a TOOL.

 

[sealybobo]

because you are brainwashed.

Says the programmed moron. I don't say "brainwashed" because I wouldn't give you credit for having a brain in the first place.

You're just a TOOL.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/106443/why_won't_the_federal_reserve_say_who_they_gave_$2_trillion_to/

Fed Defies Transparency Aim in Refusal to Disclose (Update2) - Bloomberg.com

The Feds are private bankers. You suck the private/for profit/free trade/corporate/rich's collective dick.

So what do you have to say about the $2 trillion the bankers took from us without permission?

Oh, thats a conflict of interest for you. You only blame Democrats for shit. You can't bash the bankers cause that'll prove I was right and you are a stupid fuck.

Next!!! That's right, I don't expect an intelligent response. Just a personal attack. Zero opinion from you. Checkmate bitch!! Go suck your bosses dick.