Who Should Help the Iranians?

[kyzr]

If ICE raided a sanctuary city and rounded up a bunch of gang members, no one would complain. Or a couple people would but would you care? You don't care now that 60% disapprove of what Trump's ICE is doing.

ICE needs to avoid sanctuary cities and work where the police are cooperating with them.
That maximizes the arrests with minimal protests.
The DOJ needs to prosecute sanctuary city/state pols and then go back only when the police cooperate.

If they were rounding up the "worst of the worst" trust me Trump would be bragging about it right now on tv. But he's not is he? You guys are pathetic. I love the issue. Getting the "worst of the worst" out of America? Please do!!! I'd be so happy. But you guys are too big of pussies to do that or what? Instead you stand around airports or murder gay woman who are screaming at you? Or shoot a guy legally conceal carrying a gun? Fuch me!

As I said, in red states they hand over criminals for deportation, ICE doesn't need to round them up after the democrats release them. Or, if they need to round them up the local cops do crowd control so ICE doesn't need to deal with protesters.

 

[Unkotare]

If Trump were going after Latin Kings or any of these other South American gangs living in America, you wouldn't hear many liberals complaining. ...

Bullshit. And you don't need to make a list of gangs for me. I've dealt with all of them.

 

[Unkotare]

If ICE raided a sanctuary city and rounded up a bunch of gang members, no one would complain. ...

Again, bullshit.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Just curious if there's any clear thinkers here instead of . . . .

What would be the backlash of the United States helping the Persian/Iranian people as opposed to Israel?

The regime Islamic/Iranian regime hates both, but the world? About even.

If there was a fund to help the suffering citizens/civilians of Iran, I'd contribute. I believe in charity and helping people in need.

 

[Unkotare]

If there was a fund to help the suffering citizens/civilians of Iran, I'd contribute. I believe in charity and helping people in need.

The democrats think "charity" equals raising taxes.

 

[teddyearp]

Keep watching Fox News or Newsmax you idiot.

French Senator Claude Malhuret TORCHES Trump and his alcoholic, drug-addicted administration on the floor of the Luxembourg Palace: "Every time the Epstein affair resurfaces, bombs explode somewhere in the world and cause a distraction!"
This might be the greatest MAGA takedown of all time. Nobody was spared...
"A year ago, here in France, I compared Trump's presidency to Nero's Court. I was wrong. It's the miracle court. An anti-vaxxer, former heroin addict as Minister of Health," he said, referring to RFK Jr.
Malhuret's comparison to the mad Emperor Nero is fitting. It's said that he fiddled while Rome burned. In Trump's case, he's building a ballroom while the entire world goes up in flames.
"A climate-skeptic Minister of Economy. An alcoholic TV host, Minister of the Armed Forces," Malhuret continued, referring to Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.
"An old Qatar agent, Minister of Justice. A groupie of Putin, Minister of National Security," Malhuret went on, referring to Attorney General Pam Bondi and Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard. Bondi previously worked for the Ballard Partners firm which raked in $115,000 a month by lobbying on behalf of Qatar.
"A Turkish proverb says 'When a clown settles in a palace, he does not become king, it is the palace that becomes a circus," said Malhuret. "His fine team has decided to create a competitor to the UN. Since the creation of the Board of Peace, Trump has triggered more military strikes than Biden during his entire term."
"Every time the Epstein affair resurfaces, bombs explode somewhere in the world and cause a distraction," he continued. "Bomb more to win more."
This is how the world now sees the American president: as a pedophile desperately exploiting his role as commander-in-chief to obscure the fact that he preyed on children with his long-time pal Jeffrey Epstein.
"There isn't a single country where Trump did not take advantage of the situation to enrich himself without ever forgetting his family. A Boeing plane offered by Qatar," he said, referring to the $400 million jet that Qatar "gifted" to Trump. "Investment in all Gulf projects or elsewhere. Stock market manipulation that only a few insiders benefit from."
"Any one of these conflicts of interest would have caused an immediate procedure of impeachment here," Malhuret. "But we are not here. We are in MAGA's America where public business is conducted in favor of private interests."
Rarely have we heard such an exhaustive yet succinct distillation of the Trump administration's rampant criminality and incompetence. By focusing on individual Cabinet members and what makes them uniquely unfit for office and then expanding the aperture to the broader patterns of corruption and malignancy, Malhuret delivered a master class in political messaging.
Every mainstream outlet in the U.S. should be running this speech to show Americans what the world thinks of our leaders.
Since they won't, please make sure to like and share to spread this far and wide!

So, a bunch of words with no, I mean absolutely no, proof of Donald J. Trump starting fires here in the United States of America. And you call me an "idiot". Name calling is such good form.

Come to my house and call me an idiot to my face and you will get an immediate trip to the hospital, with a quickness.

 

[teddyearp]

If Trump were going after Latin Kings or any of these other South American gangs living in America, you wouldn't hear many liberals complaining. But are they rounding up these gang members? Nope. And we know thousands are in our prisons. Deport them! Why isn't he?

Bullshit. Democrats had a rigging fit when we shut down Maduro. As for Latin Kings, it takes seconds to refute your claim.

Latin Kings Gang Member Arrested in Illinois After Placing Hit on Commander at Large Border Patrol Chief Bovino | Homeland Security

DHS announced the arrest of the criminal illegal alien and Latin Kings Gang Member who placed a bounty on the Commander at Large of the U.S. Border Patrol, Chief Gregory Bovino.

www.dhs.gov

ICE arrests Latin Kings member after NYC sanctuary release despite assault charge on first responder

ICE arrested an illegal immigrant Latin Kings gang member in NYC after sanctuary city officials released him despite an active detainer, DHS says.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Cassandro]

If there was a fund to help the suffering citizens/civilians of Iran, I'd contribute. I believe in charity and helping people in need.

Virtue signaling?

 

[SaxonJackson]

Virtue signaling?

If that's what you call charity.

 

[teddyearp]

What we need is a "Charlie Wilson" to help fund and arm the Iranian people who used to rise up against the IRCG. Now that they see the fruits of Qatar's monies in dividing America over Iran, they are wondering if we will actually help them or bail out half way like we have all over through history.

That's why the Iran war isn't going as well, that's why the people's uprising isn't happening like Trump and Netanyahu thought they would. I am seeing anti-Israel rhetoric popping up in conservative circles all over, add that to the whole of the Democrats, and yeah, why should they try to rise up?

 

[Hafar1014]

Just curious if there's any clear thinkers here instead of . . . .

What would be the backlash of the United States helping the Persian/Iranian people as opposed to Israel?

The regime Islamic/Iranian regime hates both, but the world? About even.

Israel and the people of Iran have the same goals. Depose the religious fanatics oppressing them. Most Arab nations now have that same goal. Trump has changed the balance of power in the Middle East isolating Iran

 

[sealybobo]

ICE needs to avoid sanctuary cities and work where the police are cooperating with them.
That maximizes the arrests with minimal protests.
The DOJ needs to prosecute sanctuary city/state pols and then go back only when the police cooperate.

As I said, in red states they hand over criminals for deportation, ICE doesn't need to round them up after the democrats release them. Or, if they need to round them up the local cops do crowd control so ICE doesn't need to deal with protesters.

This is insane. Clearly ICE isn’t going after violent illegals. If they were we’d be hearing about these arrests and details about some of the west guys. We are hearing nothing and that’s just not trump.

Have the found 100? There are thousands in America and I’m sure law enforcement knows who these bad guys are.

I know Florida has that alligator ally detention center. Maybe they have detained thousands? I hope so. If so, I’ll give trump credit for that.

But there are also lots more that still exist. And they ain’t at Home Depot. Quit fin around.

Focus on the gangs. If they’re in a gang and illegal, get ‘em out.

 

[teddyearp]

This is insane. Clearly ICE isn’t going after violent illegals. If they were we’d be hearing about these arrests and details about some of the west guys. We are hearing nothing and that’s just not trump.

Have the found 100? There are thousands in America and I’m sure law enforcement knows who these bad guys are.

I know Florida has that alligator ally detention center. Maybe they have detained thousands? I hope so. If so, I’ll give trump credit for that.

But there are also lots more that still exist. And they ain’t at Home Depot. Quit fin around.

Focus on the gangs. If they’re in a gang and illegal, get ‘em out.

Um, what is this thread supposed to be about? Oh yeah, Iran. It's even in the Iran section. I guess since you couldn't actually provide anything of use and on topic, you had to derail the thread and take it somewhere else, where you again can twist facts and ignore truth.

 

[sealybobo]

Um, what is this thread supposed to be about? Oh yeah, Iran. It's even in the Iran section. I guess since you couldn't actually provide anything of use and on topic, you had to derail the thread and take it somewhere else, where you again can twist facts and ignore truth.

kyzr said something about ICE so I responded.

Who should help the Iranians? Trump should. But he has no plan.

Who should take a boat through the straights of Hormuz? Trump should. With his entire team. Show us it's safe.

 

[kyzr]

This is insane. Clearly ICE isn’t going after violent illegals. If they were we’d be hearing about these arrests and details about some of the west guys. We are hearing nothing and that’s just not Trump.

There are several factors to consider.
1. In sanctuary cities, criminals are often released and back on the streets even though ICE has detainer requests on them. So ICE needs to hunt them down risking their own safety and resident's safety instead of getting the criminals handed over as is done in red states.
2. 14% of ICE arrests were "violent criminals"
3. 60% of ICE arrests had "criminal convictions"
4. In Trump-47's first year ICE took 393,000 criminals off the streets, could have been much more if sanctuary cities cooperated

Less than 14% of those arrested by ICE in Trump's 1st year back in office had violent criminal records, document shows

The official DHS statistics, which had not been previously reported, provide the most detailed look yet into who ICE has arrested during the Trump administration's crackdown.

www.cbsnews.com

"The DHS document obtained by CBS News indicates that ICE made roughly 393,000 arrests between Jan. 21, 2025, Mr. Trump's first full day back in power, and Jan. 31 of this year."

Have they found 100? There are thousands in America and I’m sure law enforcement knows who these bad guys are.
I know Florida has that alligator ally detention center. Maybe they have detained thousands? I hope so. If so, I’ll give trump credit for that.
But there are also lots more that still exist. And they ain’t at Home Depot. Quit fin around. Focus on the gangs. If they’re in a gang and illegal, get ‘em out.

If you want bad guys out get rid of sanctuary cities and states.

New Milestone: Over 2 Million Illegal Aliens Out of the United States in Less Than 250 Days | Homeland Security

DHS announced that 2 million illegal aliens have been removed or have self-deported since January 20.

www.dhs.gov

New Milestone: Over 2 Million Illegal Aliens Out of the United States in Less Than 250 Days​

Are there Iranian cells or assassins or terrorists in the US?
Probably, so it is urgent that sanctuary cities and states stop protecting them

 

[sealybobo]

There are several factors to consider.
1. In sanctuary cities, criminals are often released and back on the streets even though ICE has detainer requests on them. So ICE needs to hunt them down risking their own safety and resident's safety instead of getting the criminals handed over as is done in red states.
2. 14% of ICE arrests were "violent criminals"
3. 60% of ICE arrests had "criminal convictions"
4. In Trump-47's first year ICE took 393,000 criminals off the streets, could have been much more if sanctuary cities cooperated

Less than 14% of those arrested by ICE in Trump's 1st year back in office had violent criminal records, document shows

The official DHS statistics, which had not been previously reported, provide the most detailed look yet into who ICE has arrested during the Trump administration's crackdown.

www.cbsnews.com

"The DHS document obtained by CBS News indicates that ICE made roughly 393,000 arrests between Jan. 21, 2025, Mr. Trump's first full day back in power, and Jan. 31 of this year."

If you want bad guys out get rid of sanctuary cities and states.

New Milestone: Over 2 Million Illegal Aliens Out of the United States in Less Than 250 Days | Homeland Security

DHS announced that 2 million illegal aliens have been removed or have self-deported since January 20.

www.dhs.gov

New Milestone: Over 2 Million Illegal Aliens Out of the United States in Less Than 250 Days​

Are there Iranian cells or assassins or terrorists in the US?
Probably, so it is urgent that sanctuary cities and states stop protecting them

Ha! I think you got that 60% number wrong.

Data indicates that a significant percentage of ICE arrests, sometimes reported near or over 60%, involve individuals with no criminal convictions or with only civil immigration violations. Recent reports in 2026 highlight that while at-large arrests increased, a large portion of those detained had no criminal records, contradicting a primary focus on "worst of the worst" offenders.

It's 60% have NO criminal convictions.

Some official DHS statements have claimed higher percentages of arrests involve criminals (e.g., 70% in or 75% in), highlighting discrepancies in reporting between agencies and external analysis.

Consider this. Trump will throw out percentages without any proof. Often times his percentages are laughable even IMPOSSIBLE. He said he would lower drug prices 150%. How is that possible? It's not. So take the percentages you think are real and possibly cut them in half or cut them 200%.