who is the great whore in Revelation?

[kjw47]

Remember, the sacrifice of Jesus took the sting out of death.

Rev 12 represents the birth of Christianity.

This was the religion Jesus began coming back here in these last days. See the war in heaven described here--Rev 6-ride of the white horse was this war-- In rev 6 it says--and peace was taken from the earth--satan and his angels( 1/3 of the stars mentioned in 12 were satans angels) cast to the earth-peace taken( not a single war it says the earth=ww1) 1914--Gods people went to prision and the work Jesus began stopped cold)The whole reason satan caused this Rev 12:13-17) he couldnt stop it though) The false religions claiming to serve Jesus-lead by blind guides, stood on both sides blowing each others heads off for corrupt mortal govts. Jesus would never condone that. The other 3 riders rode as well After ww1 millions upon millions died all over the earth from what the other 3 riders brought.

 

[kjw47]

"Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom.

Luke wrote from Antioch.. This is a term of endearment.. How do you connect it to the Revelation letter to the churches?

This term little flock, showed there is 1 flock, but 2 different promises-- John 10-:16 describes the other portion of the flock and calls them-other sheep = This is the great crowd which no man can number--Both are given different promises-144,000 to rule as kings and priests alongside Jesus in Heaven.( little flock) The other sheep get this promise from Jesus-Matthew 5:5--blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth.
The word church does not belong in those 7 letters in Revelation--Jesus did not speak to a building in those letters, he spoke to the-congregation--the real translating of that word from Greek.

 

[surada]

This was the religion Jesus began coming back here in these last days. See the war in heaven described here--Rev 6-ride of the white horse was this war-- In rev 6 it says--and peace was taken from the earth--satan and his angels( 1/3 of the stars mentioned in 12 were satans angels) cast to the earth-peace taken( not a single war it says the earth=ww1) 1914--Gods people went to prision and the work Jesus began stopped cold)The whole reason satan caused this Rev 12:13-17) he couldnt stop it though) The false religions claiming to serve Jesus-lead by blind guides, stood on both sides blowing each others heads off for corrupt mortal govts. Jesus would never condone that. The other 3 riders rode as well After ww1 millions upon millions died all over the earth from what the other 3 riders brought.

Revelation is actually good news. Jesus won... and the 7 churches are critiqued and encouraged.

Its important to study the history of the times in order to understand the symbolism that the people of the first century understood far better than we do.

The locusts are likely the Romans and their foreign troops. The ruin of Tyre was probably referring to the 6th century BC.

The four horsemen are traditionally named after the powers they represent: War, Famine, Pestilence and Death; only Death, however, is directly named in the Bible.

The period from 66-70 BC was fraught with strife, (war) famine, disease and death... during the tribulation in Jerusalem from which the Christians escaped by fleeing to the montains (Pella)

Josephus writes about the terrible hardships of the time.

They had survived four powers .. the Babylonians, Persian, Greeks and Roman and numerous petty kings and Roman emperors.

 

[surada]

This term little flock, showed there is 1 flock, but 2 different promises-- John 10-:16 describes the other portion of the flock and calls them-other sheep = This is the great crowd which no man can number--Both are given different promises-144,000 to rule as kings and priests alongside Jesus in Heaven.( little flock) The other sheep get this promise from Jesus-Matthew 5:5--blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth.
The word church does not belong in those 7 letters in Revelation--Jesus did not speak to a building in those letters, he spoke to the-congregation--the real translating of that word from Greek.

Church = congregation.. not buildings.. You are gagging on a gnat.

144,000 just means a big number .. Its symbolic for "a lot of people".

 

[kjw47]

Revelation is actually good news. Jesus won... and the 7 churches are critiqued and encouraged.

Its important to study the history of the times in order to understand the symbolism that the people of the first century understood far better than we do.

The locusts are likely the Romans and their foreign troops. The ruin of Tyre was probably referring to the 6th century BC.

The four horsemen are traditionally named after the powers they represent: War, Famine, Pestilence and Death; only Death, however, is directly named in the Bible.

The period from 66-70 BC was fraught with strife, (war) famine, disease and death... during the tribulation in Jerusalem from which the Christians escaped by fleeing to the montains (Pella)

Josephus writes about the terrible hardships of the time.

They had survived four powers .. the Babylonians, Persian, Greeks and Roman and numerous petty kings and Roman emperors.

Then show us when death became no more from revelation??? when did this occur--have not all who lived and are no longer-dead? It has NOT occurred yet. WE are living in the end of these last days.

 

[kjw47]

Church = congregation.. not buildings.. You are gagging on a gnat.

144,000 just means a big number .. Its symbolic for "a lot of people".

I know 100% my teachers are correct. Its almost done--look at this world. It is SICK. Govts promoting things God hates-they are corrupt to the core, yet blind guides claiming to serve Christ tell their members to cast a vote for that corruption= not Gods will. the darknesses will. The reason Jesus will crush every mortal govt out of existence. Daniel 2:44--this has not occurred yet so 100% for sure end of days prophecy.

 

[surada]

Then show us when death became no more from revelation??? when did this occur--have not all who lived and are no longer-dead? It has NOT occurred yet. WE are living in the end of these last days.

We are promised eternal life because of Jesus.

Christians are taught, "Through Adam came death but through Christ comes the resurrection. Because of his crucifixion death has no sting."

The "end times" are the end of an era.. the end of Temple Judaism, not the end of the world.

New Jerusalem is spiritual ...

 

[surada]

I know 100% my teachers are correct. Its almost done--look at this world. It is SICK. Govts promoting things God hates-they are corrupt to the core, yet blind guides claiming to serve Christ tell their members to cast a vote for that corruption= not Gods will. the darknesses will. The reason Jesus will crush every mortal govt out of existence. Daniel 2:44--this has not occurred yet so 100% for sure end of days prophecy.

Daniel is about the persecutions of Antiochus IV when he defiled the Temple and tried to Hellenize the Jews. Do they teach that in your church?

Where in scripture does it say Jesus will crush all governments out of existence?

JW was founded in 1870 or so.. When you have your "meetings" don't you mostly study the Watchtower Literature?

 

[kjw47]

We are promised eternal life because of Jesus.

Christians are taught, "Through Adam came death but through Christ comes the resurrection. Because of his crucifixion death has no sting."

The "end times" are the end of an era.. the end of Temple Judaism, not the end of the world.

New Jerusalem is spiritual ...

The repentent who have come to an accurate knowledge of truth are promised life everlasting. 1Tim 2:4-- 2Tim 3:7-- Hebrews 10:26 --Acts 3:19

 

[kjw47]

Daniel is about the persecutions of Antiochus IV when he defiled the Temple and tried to Hellenize the Jews. Do they teach that in your church?

Where in scripture does it say Jesus will crush all governments out of existence?

JW was founded in 1870 or so.. When you have your "meetings" don't you mostly study the Watchtower Literature?

Daniel 2:44

 

[kjw47]

Daniel 2:44

By the usage of a watchtower magazine with the bible(scriptures in every paragraph basically) worldwide a Jw recieves the same exact spiritual feeding every week of the year--Thus promotes-1Cor 1:10--unity of thought-no division.

 

[surada]

Daniel 2:44

Daniel 2:44 44"In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.

"Daniel" is an historian not a prophet. The story is set in 6th century BC in Babylon. The story set in the past illustrates how they survived the Babylonians, Persians, Greeks ... and how they will also be victorius over Antiochus.

Daniel 2:44 “But throughout the history of these kingdoms, the God of heaven will be building a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will this kingdom ever fall under the domination of another.

I wish I had more skill to explain this to you.

 

[kjw47]

Daniel 2:44 44"In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.

"Daniel" is an historian not a prophet. The story is set in 6th century BC in Babylon. The story set in the past illustrates how they survived the Babylonians, Persians, Greeks ... and how they will also be victorius over Antiochus.

Daniel 2:44 “But throughout the history of these kingdoms, the God of heaven will be building a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will this kingdom ever fall under the domination of another.

I wish I had more skill to explain this to you.

No need. i know exactly what it means. Prophecy for when Jesus returns, He will crush every mortal govt out of existence. And Gods kingdom rule will take full control of all creation, satan will be abyssed. After he is loosed fora little while, God will destroy him and his angels in the lake of fire and all who follow them.

 

[surada]

No need. i know exactly what it means. Prophecy for when Jesus returns, He will crush every mortal govt out of existence. And Gods kingdom rule will take full control of all creation, satan will be abyssed. After he is loosed fora little while, God will destroy him and his angels in the lake of fire and all who follow them.

Nothing spiritual or optimistic about the JW teachings.. No wonder you all reject education.

 

[Papageorgio]

Nancy Pelosi? LOL!!!!!!!!

 

[kjw47]

Nothing spiritual or optimistic about the JW teachings.. No wonder you all reject education.

Any believing--death is no more needs to relook.

 

[surada]

Any believing--death is no more needs to relook.

Scripture tells us that Jesus took the sting out of death and offers eternal life. No need for weeping aand mourning.

 

[onefour1]

The Great Whore of Revelation 17 is the gross wickedness that is spread across the earth

Revelation 17:5
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

She is a direct opposite of the woman who is mentioned in Revelation 12.

Revelation 12:1
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Doctrine and Covenants 133:5,7,14
5 Go ye out from Babylon. Be ye clean that bear the vessels of the Lord.
...
7 Yea, verily I say unto you again, the time has come when the voice of the Lord is unto you: Go ye out of Babylon; gather ye out from among the nations, from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
...
14 Go ye out from among the nations, even from Babylon, from the midst of wickedness, which is spiritual Babylon.

Revelation 18 describes the Great Whore's demise.

 

[kjw47]

Scripture tells us that Jesus took the sting out of death and offers eternal life. No need for weeping aand mourning.

Then why is everybody dying? Ever see anyone dying of cancer? Dont you think the millions who have died from covid did not bring pain to many hearts?

 

[surada]

The Great Whore of Revelation 17 is the gross wickedness that is spread across the earth

Revelation 17:5
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

She is a direct opposite of the woman who is mentioned in Revelation 12.

Revelation 12:1
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Doctrine and Covenants 133:5,7,14
5 Go ye out from Babylon. Be ye clean that bear the vessels of the Lord.
...
7 Yea, verily I say unto you again, the time has come when the voice of the Lord is unto you: Go ye out of Babylon; gather ye out from among the nations, from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
...
14 Go ye out from among the nations, even from Babylon, from the midst of wickedness, which is spiritual Babylon.

norwegen

The woman in Rev 12 is pure.

Mystery Babylon is not.

The Lord said also unto me in the days of Josiah the king, Hast thou seen that which backsliding Israel hath done? she is gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there hath played the harlot. Jeremiah 3:6 (So the prophets lambast Israel for apostacy)

And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also. Jeremiah 3:8

Jerusalem was also known as “the city on seven hills” at the time John wrote Revelation.

The seven mountains upon which Jerusalem was built are Mount Zion, Mount Ophel, Mount Moriah, Mount Bezetha, Mount Acra, Mount Gareb, and Mount Goath.

Verse ten goes on to explain that the seven hills represent seven kings or kingdoms, five of which have fallen, one that is and one that is to come. Therefore, the “harlot of Babylon” cannot refer to Rome.

Revelation 11;8- And their dead bodies (the two witnesses who will be killed by the beast from the bottomless pit) shall lie in the street of the ‘great city’, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.” Where was our Lord Jesus crucified? Jerusalem.

It seems to me that the tirade is against Jerusalem and the Jews who crucified Jesus.