Who Is Right About WMDs in Iraq, the Right or Trump?

[mudwhistle]

• We have no business in the Middle East. Period.
• Our military does not exist for the sake of Israel. Period.
• Any Jew in America who supports this endless carnage we unleash over there because he thinks it's good for Israel is disloyal, and in some cases, treasonous. Period.
• Iraq was no threat to the United States and, therefore, our attack was unjustified. Period.
• Your disgusting attempt to use the deaths of children to cloak your blood lust in a humanitarian disguise is despicable, Period.

If you think we have no business in the ME, then nobody from the ME has any business in America.

 

[Desperado]

• We have no business in the Middle East. Period.
• Our military does not exist for the sake of Israel. Period.
• Any Jew in America who supports this endless carnage we unleash over there because he thinks it's good for Israel is disloyal, and in some cases, treasonous. Period.
• Iraq was no threat to the United States and, therefore, our attack was unjustified. Period.
• Your disgusting attempt to use the deaths of children to cloak your blood lust in a humanitarian disguise is despicable, Period.

If you think we have no business in the ME, then nobody from the ME has any business in America.

That works too.

 

[LaDexter]

then nobody from the ME has any business in America.

More precisely, we had no problem in the ME prior to 1948, and all of our problems there stem from failing to heed this warning...


Einstein Letter Warning Of Zionist Facism In Israel

Einstein Letter Warning Of
Zionist Facism In Israel
Letter That Albert Einstein Sent to the New York Times
1948, Protesting the Visit of Menachem Begin
11-1-4

Letters to the Editor
New York Times
December 4, 1948
TO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES:
Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.

The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughoutthe world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.
Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement. The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.
Attack on Arab Village
A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants ? 240men, women, and children - and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin. The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.
Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model. During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.
The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.
Discrepancies Seen
The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal.
In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.
The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.
ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ
HANNAH ARENDT
ABRAHAM BRICK
RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO
ALBERT EINSTEIN
HERMAN EISEN, M.D.
HAYIM FINEMAN
M. GALLEN, M.D.
H.H. HARRIS
ZELIG S. HARRIS
SIDNEY HOOK
FRED KARUSH
BRURIA KAUFMAN
IRMA L. LINDHEIM
NACHMAN MAISEL
SEYMOUR MELMAN
MYER D. MENDELSON
M.D., HARRY M. OSLINSKY
SAMUEL PITLICK
FRITZ ROHRLICH
LOUIS P. ROCKER
RUTH SAGIS
ITZHAK SANKOWSKY
I.J. SHOENBERG
SAMUEL SHUMAN
M. SINGER
IRMA WOLFE
STEFAN WOLF.

 

[HaShev]

The Right said there were WMDs in Iraq. Right up until 2015.

The far left liberal Democrat Donald Trump said, and still says, there weren't.

Who is correct?

Simple question.

Iraq warmongers can't answer simple questions. Lies don't work. But I appreciate you putting it to them.

Actually you are the one lying, and in fact inadvertantly admited we had a reason going in there. Since many of the Syrian chems are from that very same non existing pile and showing how Dems lie about getting all chems out, we see a pattern emerge of missinformation for political means by the left. That being we proved Saddam was stalling to transport WMD across borders into Syria and proved as "we" meaning me and others back then always claimed and were harassed for claiming they stashed them in Syria.
So you should be all over the leftist lies but you can't because it's probably your affiliated party, so you have to deflect blame to opponents, demonize them and admit and regret nothing including lying to protect the gang. *yawn* Same story diffrent year, people are onto the scam your party is playing. They are noticing the lies and it's consequences.

 

[Rustic]

Rustic, post: 1709248

The UN "Inspectors" were absolutely incompetent and molasses slow… If Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction he had ages to hide them most likely in Syria.

You nonsense dies not take Bush's March 17, 2003 lie away.

Bush claimed war was necessary because Bush had intelligence at that time that Iraq was hiding the most lethal weapon ever devised.

If that were true and Iraqis were moving all of them to Syria, Bush's intelligence would have know what WMD and where it was being hidden.

If it all was being moved and Bush did know about it that is more proof Bush was lying.

He had no intelligence. At that point having such intelligence would be impossible.


Bush agreed to resumption of inspections under Resolution 1441 which contained no timeline for the UN inspectors to complete their work.

There were no WMD / it would take time to be without a doubt sure about that before lifting sanctions.

Bush took two years trying to find them. Killing and destroying Iraq along the way which still goes on fourteen years later.

Talk about slow. Not only slow but extreme stupid and dangerous. That's your Bush not the inspectors.

I consider bush a progressive, progressives are a fucked up bunch...

 

[healthmyths]

• We have no business in the Middle East. Period.
• Our military does not exist for the sake of Israel. Period.
• Any Jew in America who supports this endless carnage we unleash over there because he thinks it's good for Israel is disloyal, and in some cases, treasonous. Period.
• Iraq was no threat to the United States and, therefore, our attack was unjustified. Period.
• Your disgusting attempt to use the deaths of children to cloak your blood lust in a humanitarian disguise is despicable, Period.

Who in the f...k are you? You give me NO links, no proof that you at least did a little research.
All you do is vindictive racist, anti-Semitic bullshit!
We have business in the Middle East...in the past ... oil and thanks to American initiative which obviously you hate we are becoming less dependent on oil.
And of course our military doesn't exist just for Israel...dumb f...k! Geez are that truly stupid to believe that? QUESTION MARK
What the hell do you mean a Jew is treasonous? "PERIOD" What a dummy you are displaying yourself. Where is your proof??
Iraq was A THREAT you dumb s...T! They hired terrorists to kill Americans! Proof???
Dummy who invaded Kuwait? Saddam. Who came to the assistance? The USA because we had treaties with countries dumb sh....t!

Has Iraq sponsored terrorism?
Yes. Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship provided headquarters, operating bases, training camps, and other support to terrorist groups fighting the governments of neighboring Turkey and Iran, as well as to hard-line Palestinian groups. During the 1991 Gulf War, Saddam commissioned several failed terrorist attacks on U.S. facilities. Prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the State Department listed Iraq as a state sponsor of terrorism. The question of Iraq’s link to terrorism grew more urgent with Saddam’s suspected determination to develop weapons of mass destruction (WMD), which Bush administration officials feared he might share with terrorists who could launch devastating attacks against the United States...

What type of terrorist groups did Iraq support under Saddam Hussein’s regime?
Primarily groups that could hurt Saddam’s regional foes. Saddam has aided the Iranian dissident group Mujahedeen-e-Khalq and the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (known by its Turkish initials, PKK), a separatist group fighting the Turkish government. Moreover, Iraq has hosted several Palestinian splinter groups that oppose peace with Israel , including the mercenary Abu Nidal Organization, whose leader, Abu Nidal, was found dead in Baghdad in August 2002. Iraq has also supported the Islamist Hamas movement and reportedly channeled money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. A secular dictator, however, Saddam tended to support secular terrorist groups rather than Islamist ones such as al-Qaeda, experts say."
What was Saddam Hussein's involvement with terrorist groups? - US - Iraq War - ProCon.org

By the way you "PERIOD".... where again is your proof? I'm supplying MY support links where are yours or you either too dumb or too lazy???

 

[Doc1]

• We have no business in the Middle East. Period.
• Our military does not exist for the sake of Israel. Period.
• Any Jew in America who supports this endless carnage we unleash over there because he thinks it's good for Israel is disloyal, and in some cases, treasonous. Period.
• Iraq was no threat to the United States and, therefore, our attack was unjustified. Period.
• Your disgusting attempt to use the deaths of children to cloak your blood lust in a humanitarian disguise is despicable, Period.

Who in the f...k are you? You give me NO links, no proof that you at least did a little research.
All you do is vindictive racist, anti-Semitic bullshit!
We have business in the Middle East...in the past ... oil and thanks to American initiative which obviously you hate we are becoming less dependent on oil.
And of course our military doesn't exist just for Israel...dumb f...k! Geez are that truly stupid to believe that? QUESTION MARK
What the hell do you mean a Jew is treasonous? "PERIOD" What a dummy you are displaying yourself. Where is your proof??
Iraq was A THREAT you dumb s...T! They hired terrorists to kill Americans! Proof???
Dummy who invaded Kuwait? Saddam. Who came to the assistance? The USA because we had treaties with countries dumb sh....t!

Has Iraq sponsored terrorism?
Yes. Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship provided headquarters, operating bases, training camps, and other support to terrorist groups fighting the governments of neighboring Turkey and Iran, as well as to hard-line Palestinian groups. During the 1991 Gulf War, Saddam commissioned several failed terrorist attacks on U.S. facilities. Prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the State Department listed Iraq as a state sponsor of terrorism. The question of Iraq’s link to terrorism grew more urgent with Saddam’s suspected determination to develop weapons of mass destruction (WMD), which Bush administration officials feared he might share with terrorists who could launch devastating attacks against the United States...

What type of terrorist groups did Iraq support under Saddam Hussein’s regime?
Primarily groups that could hurt Saddam’s regional foes. Saddam has aided the Iranian dissident group Mujahedeen-e-Khalq and the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (known by its Turkish initials, PKK), a separatist group fighting the Turkish government. Moreover, Iraq has hosted several Palestinian splinter groups that oppose peace with Israel , including the mercenary Abu Nidal Organization, whose leader, Abu Nidal, was found dead in Baghdad in August 2002. Iraq has also supported the Islamist Hamas movement and reportedly channeled money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. A secular dictator, however, Saddam tended to support secular terrorist groups rather than Islamist ones such as al-Qaeda, experts say."
What was Saddam Hussein's involvement with terrorist groups? - US - Iraq War - ProCon.org

By the way you "PERIOD".... where again is your proof? I'm supplying MY support links where are yours or you either too dumb or too lazy???

And yet here you are, in your momma's basement typing all tough and shit.

 

[Billo_Really]

Explain to me then why Saddam let 576,000 children die?
FACT: In 1995 as many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization.
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children, U.N. Reports

Consider that from 1991 to 1995 an average of 144,000 children starved. Do you know why?
Because Saddam would NOT comply with UN sanctions which dictated he simply acknowledge there were NO WMDs.
Saddam would rather 576,000 children starve to death.
Thank goodness for the compassion of Americans. Because if Saddam were still in power today, nearly 3.6 million more children would have starved!

We forced those sanctions on Iraq so you, yourself, have blood on your hands. You're responsible for those kids deaths.

 

[Billo_Really]

AND YOU definitely are a nut case!
All Saddam had to do was admit... there were NO WMDS! And since he didn't we as any logical human compassionate person would say... If he is willing to sacrifice
his children... by NOT admitting he doesn't have WMDs... then he has them!

BUT you again BLAMING the US/UN for wanting to overthrow a bastard that you obviously adored and emulated you wanted Saddam still in power and YOU want
3.6 million kids to starve. How heartless you are!

MY goodness you defending Saddam! Unbelievable!

Regime change is illegal. The country was better off with Hussein than they are now. We were better off as well. That illegal and immoral war cost us over $5 trillion tax payer dollars, over 4000 American lives, over 1 million Iraqi lives, our reputation around the world and our American heritage; and WTF did we get back in return? After investing so much in that campaign, what was our return for that investment? How have average Americans benefited from that expense?


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[g5000]

He wasn't lying about the intelligence.

Is it too much to ask you not to speak in broad generic terms about intelligence.

Bush lied only once about intelligence in my view when he claimed to have intelligence on March 17, 2003 that left him no choice but to kick inspectors out in order to bomb and invade to find WMD on his own.

He lied because no such intelligence existed. That is quite different from saying afterward the. Intelligence was all wrong.

The UN "Inspectors" were absolutely incompetent and molasses slow… If Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction he had ages to hide them most likely in Syria.
The UN always has been a fuck up and always will be… Only one thing worse than nationalism is globalism. Fact

So is Trump wrong?

Simple question.

 

[g5000]

Either Saddam had WMDs at the time of the 2003 invasion, and the Right was right, or Saddam did not have have WMDs at the time of the 2003 invasion and liberal Democrats like Donald Trump were right.

Which is it, folks?

Simple question that almost every one of you cowards is avoiding.

 

[g5000]

Patriotic conservatives wanted us to increase our troop strength in Iraq. Cut-and-run traitors like registered Democrat Donald Trump wanted us to leave.

Who was right?

A simple question you cowards are also avoiding.

 

[healthmyths]

AND YOU definitely are a nut case!
All Saddam had to do was admit... there were NO WMDS! And since he didn't we as any logical human compassionate person would say... If he is willing to sacrifice
his children... by NOT admitting he doesn't have WMDs... then he has them!

BUT you again BLAMING the US/UN for wanting to overthrow a bastard that you obviously adored and emulated you wanted Saddam still in power and YOU want
3.6 million kids to starve. How heartless you are!

MY goodness you defending Saddam! Unbelievable!

Regime change is illegal. The country was better off with Hussein than they are now. We were better off as well. That illegal and immoral war cost us over $5 trillion tax payer dollars, over 4000 American lives, over 1 million Iraqi lives, our reputation around the world and our American heritage; and WTF did we get back in return? After investing so much in that campaign, what was our return for that investment? How have average Americans benefited from that expense?

That is total crap about being better off under Saddam!
Where is your f...king PROOF? Guesses. Here read the FACTS!!!
In 2003 The AVERAGE IRAQ per capita GDP was $600! $600!!!!
In 2013 it was 10 times that at $6,000
$16,200 (2014 est.)
$15,400 (2015 est.)
$16,500 (2016 est.)
The World Factbook — Central Intelligence Agency
$600 in 2003 under Saddam... versus 2016 $16,500! That is a 2,650% growth in 13 years.
All the rest of your crap is totally MADE UP! FACTS is ALL I am asking for and in your first statement you are proven to be an idiot!
GET your facts before you open you stupid mouth!!!

 

[healthmyths]

Either Saddam had WMDs at the time of the 2003 invasion, and the Right was right, or Saddam did not have have WMDs at the time of the 2003 invasion and liberal Democrats like Donald Trump were right.

Which is it, folks?

Simple question that almost every one of you cowards is avoiding.

Damn simple! He had none!
But all these people before GWB thought he had them! So where are YOUR facts?

I get tired of doing the work for idiots like you! This a simple search... find this web site!
Reasons for War: Things you might have forgotten about Iraq.

"Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
President Clinton, Jan. 27, 1998.

"It is essential that a dictator like Saddam not be allowed to evade international strictures and wield frightening weapons of mass destruction. As long as UNSCOM is prevented from carrying out its mission, the effort to monitor Iraqi compliance with Resolution 687 becomes a dangerous shell game. Neither the United States nor the global community can afford to allow Saddam Hussein to continue on this path."
Sen. Tom Daschle (D, SD), Feb. 12, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeleine Albright, Feb. 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb. 18, 1998.

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeleine Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored away secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"My position is very clear: The time has come for decisive action to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. I'm a co-sponsor of the bipartisan resolution that's presently under consideration in the Senate. Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave threat to America and our allies..."
John Edwards (D, NC), Oct. 7, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members.... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct. 10, 2002.

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

 

[healthmyths]

AND YOU definitely are a nut case!
All Saddam had to do was admit... there were NO WMDS! And since he didn't we as any logical human compassionate person would say... If he is willing to sacrifice
his children... by NOT admitting he doesn't have WMDs... then he has them!

BUT you again BLAMING the US/UN for wanting to overthrow a bastard that you obviously adored and emulated you wanted Saddam still in power and YOU want
3.6 million kids to starve. How heartless you are!

MY goodness you defending Saddam! Unbelievable!

Regime change is illegal. The country was better off with Hussein than they are now. We were better off as well. That illegal and immoral war cost us over $5 trillion tax payer dollars, over 4000 American lives, over 1 million Iraqi lives, our reputation around the world and our American heritage; and WTF did we get back in return? After investing so much in that campaign, what was our return for that investment? How have average Americans benefited from that expense?

Don't you people know how to use the Internet? Or do you just go to sites that support your point of view??
FAKE NEWS sites!

 

[g5000]

Either Saddam had WMDs at the time of the 2003 invasion, and the Right was right, or Saddam did not have have WMDs at the time of the 2003 invasion and liberal Democrats like Donald Trump were right.

Which is it, folks?

Simple question that almost every one of you cowards is avoiding.

Damn simple! He had none!

So it is your opinion the far left liberals were right all along.

The people right wingers called traitors.

As for the rest of the gibberish in your response which followed, I already said in my OP that many mainstream Democrats believed the lies told to them by the Bush Administration.

But it was the extreme left who didn't, and you just admitted they were the ones who were right all along.

"Well, he lied. He got us into the war with lies. And, I mean, look at the trouble Bill Clinton got into with something that was totally unimportant. And they tried to impeach him, which was nonsense. And, yet, Bush got us into this horrible war with lies, by lying, by saying they had weapons of mass destruction, by saying all sorts of things that turned out not to be true." - Donald J. Trump


Now what about Democrats like Trump who demanded we cut-and-run from Iraq? Were they right, too?

 

[healthmyths]

Patriotic conservatives wanted us to increase our troop strength in Iraq. Cut-and-run traitors like registered Democrat Donald Trump wanted us to leave.

Who was right?

A simple question you cowards are also avoiding.

And Trump was wrong even though I support MOST of what Trump says and does!
He is simply wrong about Iraq and the reasons for LIBERATING Iraq!
He of ALL people who has seen the MSM bias reporting should be aware of that!
So I have no problem criticizing Trump regarding his stance on Iraq. He was wrong.
But now that he is President, he is letting the military do what the military knows how to do and HE is not involved in MICROMANAGING these conflicts!
I mean you tell me how the military feels today knowing they can make decisions versus this crap that was put out under the politically motivated Obama!

A laminated card with the following text was distributed to all U.S. Army and Marine personnel in Iraq.
Policies about limiting civilian casualties have soldiers complaining they can't effectively fight; one showed author Michael Hastings a card with regulations including
"Patrol only in areas that you are reasonably certain that you will not have to defend yourselves with lethal force."
For a soldier who has traveled halfway around the world to fight, that’s like telling a cop he should only patrol in areas where he knows he won’t have to make arrests.
“Does that make any f–king sense?” Pfc. Jared Pautsch.
In Afghanistan, a New General -- But An Old Strategy

 

[healthmyths]

Obama was so pansy afraid of killing civilians and of Abu Ghraib and Gitmo!
GEEZ what would we have done in WWI and WWII if the same idiots that were involved with Obama were in the administration?
We'd be speaking GERMAN!

 

[g5000]

Patriotic conservatives wanted us to increase our troop strength in Iraq. Cut-and-run traitors like registered Democrat Donald Trump wanted us to leave.

Who was right?

A simple question you cowards are also avoiding.

And Trump was wrong even though I support MOST of what Trump says and does!

If Trump was wrong by demanding we cut and run from Iraq, what room does he have to criticize Obama for drawing down our troops and claiming that led to the birth of ISIS?

How dare he do that? And what does it say about his own judgment? What does it say about the judgment of the people who let Trump get away with that?

 

[healthmyths]

Either Saddam had WMDs at the time of the 2003 invasion, and the Right was right, or Saddam did not have have WMDs at the time of the 2003 invasion and liberal Democrats like Donald Trump were right.

Which is it, folks?

Simple question that almost every one of you cowards is avoiding.

Damn simple! He had none!

So it is your opinion the far left liberals were right all along.

The people right wingers called traitors.

As for the rest of the gibberish in your response which followed, I already said in my OP that many mainstream Democrats believed the lies told to them by the Bush Administration.

But it was the extreme left who didn't, and you just admitted they were the ones who were right all along.

"Well, he lied. He got us into the war with lies. And, I mean, look at the trouble Bill Clinton got into with something that was totally unimportant. And they tried to impeach him, which was nonsense. And, yet, Bush got us into this horrible war with lies, by lying, by saying they had weapons of mass destruction, by saying all sorts of things that turned out not to be true." - Donald J. Trump


Now what about Democrats like Trump who demanded we cut-and-run from Iraq? Were they right, too?

YOU DUMMY!!!!
Bush wasn't President ! Clinton WAS!!!

ALL BEFORE BUSH!!!! did you not read what these DEMOCRATS WITH THEIR INTELLIGENCE sources SAID???

"Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
President Clinton, Jan. 27, 1998.

"It is essential that a dictator like Saddam not be allowed to evade international strictures and wield frightening weapons of mass destruction. As long as UNSCOM is prevented from carrying out its mission, the effort to monitor Iraqi compliance with Resolution 687 becomes a dangerous shell game. Neither the United States nor the global community can afford to allow Saddam Hussein to continue on this path."
Sen. Tom Daschle (D, SD), Feb. 12, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeleine Albright, Feb. 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb. 18, 1998.

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeleine Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
etter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.