Who is MOST responsible for the 2016 crash of the Democratic Party?

[Hutch Starskey]

Who is MOST responsible for the 2016 crash of the Democratic Party?

The party didn't crash. Clinton lost the EC and the Dems picked up seats in both houses.

Clinton +2.5 million votes.

Who in the hell what KKKalifornia moonbats think?

 

[miketx]

Who is MOST responsible for the 2016 crash of the Democratic Party?

The party didn't crash. Clinton lost the EC and the Dems picked up seats in both houses.

Clinton +2.5 million votes.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep from rolling up in a fetal ball, huh?

Democrats have lost from the WH to Congress to SCOTUS to state governorships to state legislatures. The DNC isn't even a regional party, it has become coastal with small pockets here and there within the nation's interior. Your bench was made up of old, rich white people in their late 60's and 70's. You have an extremely small bench as there are so few Democrats in any seat of power to draw on for future national elections. Yes, the DNC has crashed.

Strange how the national map of democrat wins looks a lot like a crime map posted by the authorities.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Who is MOST responsible for the 2016 crash of the Democratic Party?

The party didn't crash. Clinton lost the EC and the Dems picked up seats in both houses.

Clinton +2.5 million votes.

She won one state, California by 3.2 million. That means she lost the rest of the country by 700,000

But regardless......

In california in 2016 she had 8.7 million votes total

In 2012 Obama had 7.8 million

In 2008 Obama had 8.2 million.

This doesn't pass the smell test.

No one, in there right mind would say that Clinton was more popular than Obama in California. Not even close.

But she would have beaten him side by side?

It certainly doesn't indicate a collapse of any sort when there are gains across the board.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I understand. A loss isn't a collapse. A collapse isn't a loss. losing is winning, crime is legal. Failing is success. I get it.

And you're brilliant!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Who is MOST responsible for the 2016 crash of the Democratic Party?

The party didn't crash. Clinton lost the EC and the Dems picked up seats in both houses.

Clinton +2.5 million votes.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep from rolling up in a fetal ball, huh?

Democrats have lost from the WH to Congress to SCOTUS to state governorships to state legislatures. The DNC isn't even a regional party, it has become coastal with small pockets here and there within the nation's interior. Your bench was made up of old, rich white people in their late 60's and 70's. You have an extremely small bench as there are so few Democrats in any seat of power to draw on for future national elections. Yes, the DNC has crashed.

Democrats have won the popular vote in 6 of the last 7 general elections and Trump won with a fairly small margin. I would say the Republican are in a much bigger hole than the Dems.

 

[Meathead]

The Deplorables are responsible, obviously.

 

[Auld Phart]

Who is MOST responsible for the 2016 crash of the Democratic Party?

The party didn't crash. Clinton lost the EC and the Dems picked up seats in both houses.

Clinton +2.5 million votes.

The left living in a fantasy bubble world is also a reason Democrats are insignificant now.

The fantasy is seeing a collapse. Trump barely squeaked by.

Winning the EV by 36 points is 'squeaking by'?

 

[Auld Phart]

Who is MOST responsible for the 2016 crash of the Democratic Party?

The party didn't crash. Clinton lost the EC and the Dems picked up seats in both houses.

Clinton +2.5 million votes.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep from rolling up in a fetal ball, huh?

Democrats have lost from the WH to Congress to SCOTUS to state governorships to state legislatures. The DNC isn't even a regional party, it has become coastal with small pockets here and there within the nation's interior. Your bench was made up of old, rich white people in their late 60's and 70's. You have an extremely small bench as there are so few Democrats in any seat of power to draw on for future national elections. Yes, the DNC has crashed.

Democrats have won the popular vote in 6 of the last 7 general elections and Trump won with a fairly small margin. I would say the Republican are in a much bigger hole than the Dems.

Too bad the popular vote doesn't determine the presidency.

The presidency is decided by the country, not the Blue Wall

 

[DarkFury]

Democrats picked up seats in both the House and the Senate, and won the popular vote by 3 million votes.

George W. Bush had better margins in both the House and the Senate in 2005, so your nonsense about "1920" is bullshit, too.

The resident expert on politics has spoke! Now you can go join the other "experts".

Enjoy your meal.

 

[BluesLegend]

Who presided over the demolition of the Democratic party...Obama, Reid, and Pelosi. Losses so historic you have to go all the way back to 1921 to find a beating that epic. And that's with the entire MSM lying and spinning and flying cover for these idiots. Imagine the destruction if we actually had unbiased reporting.

While moderate Democrats are on record accepting responsibility the left wing of the Democratic party are in full on denial mode blaming everything and everyone other than themselves.

 

[jaydedjen110]

I blame the DNC and third party voters.

 

[Pop23]

Who is MOST responsible for the 2016 crash of the Democratic Party?

The party didn't crash. Clinton lost the EC and the Dems picked up seats in both houses.

Clinton +2.5 million votes.

She won one state, California by 3.2 million. That means she lost the rest of the country by 700,000

But regardless......

In california in 2016 she had 8.7 million votes total

In 2012 Obama had 7.8 million

In 2008 Obama had 8.2 million.

This doesn't pass the smell test.

No one, in there right mind would say that Clinton was more popular than Obama in California. Not even close.

But she would have beaten him side by side?

It certainly doesn't indicate a collapse of any sort when there are gains across the board.

What it does indicate is that a very unpopular candidate out did a very popular candidate.

If anyone believes that Clinton would pull more votes then Obama, without shenanigans, there is a bridge in Brooklyn available for the right price.

 

[tycho1572]

8 years of Obama... and Hillary promising more of the same BS.

 

[imawhosure]

Who is MOST responsible for the 2016 crash of the Democratic Party?

The party didn't crash. Clinton lost the EC and the Dems picked up seats in both houses.

Clinton +2.5 million votes.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep from rolling up in a fetal ball, huh?

Democrats have lost from the WH to Congress to SCOTUS to state governorships to state legislatures. The DNC isn't even a regional party, it has become coastal with small pockets here and there within the nation's interior. Your bench was made up of old, rich white people in their late 60's and 70's. You have an extremely small bench as there are so few Democrats in any seat of power to draw on for future national elections. Yes, the DNC has crashed.

Democrats have won the popular vote in 6 of the last 7 general elections and Trump won with a fairly small margin. I would say the Republican are in a much bigger hole than the Dems.

Lol, with your `1st sentence, I agree. A person who is a Democrat who can tell the truth! But then, you forgot 1 little factoid------------->the rules are now going to change to vote! OMG, say it isn't so! Oh yes, with that pesky SCOTUS behind the laws, an ID is going to be required, and any illegal alien voting regardless of reason to be instantly deported, lets see how the future elections work out-) Bet ya didn't here that law before, did ya! That's cause that mighta actually had lefties vote, but since they didn't and Trump won, let me be the 1st to tell ya---------->without the illegals, you better have the votes or it is O-V-E-R. And know what, I don't think you do-)

 

[ptbw forever]

Retards like Guno and the mainstream media outlets that agree with him.

 

[Kosh]

All of the above!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Who presided over the demolition of the Democratic party...Obama, Reid, and Pelosi. Losses so historic you have to go all the way back to 1921 to find a beating that epic. And that's with the entire MSM lying and spinning and flying cover for these idiots. Imagine the destruction if we actually had unbiased reporting.

While moderate Democrats are on record accepting responsibility the left wing of the Democratic party are in full on denial mode blaming everything and everyone other than themselves.

Moderate Democrats who supported free trade are the ones who cost the Democrats the election.

 

[RealCalConservative]

The collapse of the Democratic Party mostly has to do with its base distancing itself from the rest of America. I live in California where it has been particularly hard for liberals, but these people have a total disconnect with the rest of America. White elite liberals assume that everyone else thinks like them when maybe 20% or less of the population who consider themselves a liberal. The elites like to think that they've got the Latino and Black votes in the bag because they throw them a bone occasionally. They also think that all other white people are racist idiots.


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[theDoctorisIn]

Democrats picked up seats in both the House and the Senate, and won the popular vote by 3 million votes.

George W. Bush had better margins in both the House and the Senate in 2005, so your nonsense about "1920" is bullshit, too.

YOU COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG

2005 Senate: 49-49-2 DEMOCRATIC VOTING MAJORITY BECAUSE THE INDEPENDENTS CAUCUSED DEM.

2016 Senate: 51-47-2 REPUBLICANS


2005 House: 233 DEMS, 202 PUBS

2016 House: 194 DEMS, 240 PUBS

115th United States Congress - Wikipedia
109th United States Congress - Wikipedia

When you are making a post that is 100% incorrect, maybe try not to be a dickhead about it.....

Not only are you stupid, you're also an asshole.....CONGRATS....

Share with me YOUR SPECIFIC NUMBERS that demonstrate Bush's "BETTER MARGINS IN BOTH THE HOUSE AND SENATE". SPECIFICALLY, lay it out with sources...or are YOU the one full of nonsense and bullshit?

2014 may have had larger MAJORITIES in the HOUSE and SENATE, but NOT with a REPUBLICAN POTUS.

The PUB Congress taking office in 2017 has the largest majority with a PUB POTUS since 1929.

I think you might want to read your Wikipedia link again. The 109th Congress Senate was 55-45 Republican, and the House was 232-201 Republican.

You are correct in saying that the House majority was smaller, but only by a few seats.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Who is MOST responsible for the 2016 crash of the Democratic Party?

The party didn't crash. Clinton lost the EC and the Dems picked up seats in both houses.

Clinton +2.5 million votes.

In case you haven't heard, the popular vote doesn't matter, and we have no way of knowing what the results would have been if it did.

In case you haven't noticed, the premise of the thread is that the democratic party has collapsed.
Getting more votes than your opponent in the general and gaining seats in both houses of Congress is hardly a collapse.

Oh no, I heard. And getting more votes still doesn't matter. The reason many people see it as a collapse is because the Demys thought they would take back the senate because the republicans had so many more seats to defend (24-10), but the Libs couldn't do it. You seem a bit touchy about it being labeled a COLLAPSE. Prep H that ass boi, maybe the swelling will go down in a month or 2. Bwahahahahaha.