Who here can honestly say that they are rich enough to afford to pay for health insurance for every illegal alien?

[esalla]

Not me for one, and sadly America can not afford this bill either.

All Democrats At Main Debate Agree Illegal Immigrants Should Get Health Care Coverage

MSNBC Democratic presidential primary debate co-moderator Savannah Guthrie asked the candidates to raise their hand if their healthcare plan would cover undocumented immigrants. "This is a show of hands question and hold them up so people can see. Raise your hand if your government plan would...

www.realclearpolitics.com

 

[BULLDOG]

How many here can truly say they are stupid enough to believe that is the goal?

 

[TNHarley]

How many here can truly say they are stupid enough to believe that is the goal?

So all of those Dems lied?

 

[shockedcanadian]

You won't be paying for it, your grandchildren and the future loss of Americas influence will be paying this price.

Not to worry, the "important people" will be living in China or some island they buy somewhere, so they will be ok. This fact should allow the world to sleep well at night.

 

[esalla]

How many here can truly say they are stupid enough to believe that is the goal?

Well you for one

 

[Zorro!]

Not me for one, and sadly America can not afford this bill either.

All Democrats At Main Debate Agree Illegal Immigrants Should Get Health Care Coverage

MSNBC Democratic presidential primary debate co-moderator Savannah Guthrie asked the candidates to raise their hand if their healthcare plan would cover undocumented immigrants. "This is a show of hands question and hold them up so people can see. Raise your hand if your government plan would...

www.realclearpolitics.com

Yes they support it and they know we can't afford it, that's the point.

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, both professors at the Columbia University School of Social Work. The strategy was outlined in a May 1966 article in the liberal magazine The Nation titled "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty".

Many Americans who were eligible for welfare were not receiving benefits, and that a welfare enrollment drive would precipitating a fiscal crisis. The side consequences of this strategy would shore up support for the Democrat Party.

Cloward and Piven stated that full enrollment of those eligible for welfare "would produce bureaucratic disruption in welfare agencies and fiscal disruption in local and state governments" that would: "...deepen existing divisions among elements in the big-city Democrat coalition: the remaining white middle class, the working-class ethnic groups and the growing minority poor."

Cloward and Piven proposed to create a crisis in the current welfare system – by exploiting the gap between welfare law and practice – that would bring about its collapse and replace it with a system of guaranteed annual income. They hoped to accomplish this end by informing the poor of their rights to welfare assistance, encouraging them to apply for benefits and, in effect, overloading an already overburdened bureaucracy.

55 years later, the Left is still at it, only they have added; attracting illegal aliens, showering them with "free" benefits, even as they ship all our jobs to China.

They drove this strategy through the Democrat Party:

"Deeper and politically more telling conflicts would take place within the Democrat coalition...Whites – both working class ethnic groups and many in the middle class – would be aroused against the ghetto poor, while liberal groups, which until recently have been comforted by the notion that the poor are few... would probably support the movement. Group conflict, spelling political crisis for the local party apparatus, would thus become acute as welfare rolls mounted and the strains on local budgets became more severe.”

Reliance On Mass Unrest:

In papers published in 1971 and 1977, Cloward and Piven argued that mass unrest in the United States, especially between 1964 and 1969, did lead to a massive expansion of welfare rolls, though not to the guaranteed-income program that they had hoped for, but, they haven't given up.

When they saw that a national shutdown could be ordered they got excited. After all, do they not also believe that CO^2 will kill us all? Could not "Scientists" declare a health emergency with the solution being lockdowns to reduce CO^2 levels? Add this to shipping our jobs to China, attracting waves of illegals and putting them on welfare, food-stamps, social security and Medicare, and lockdowns, and they can destroy the US economy, which has always been their goal.

With the economy destroyed, they imagine that we will clamor for forced wealth redistribution and a guaranteed government check, and a small group will then have firm control over our resources and means of production, the fruits of which they will dole out according to their interests.

No thanks. Even if you hate him, the only choice in this election, is Trump.

 

[danielpalos]

Not me for one, and sadly America can not afford this bill either.

All Democrats At Main Debate Agree Illegal Immigrants Should Get Health Care Coverage

MSNBC Democratic presidential primary debate co-moderator Savannah Guthrie asked the candidates to raise their hand if their healthcare plan would cover undocumented immigrants. "This is a show of hands question and hold them up so people can see. Raise your hand if your government plan would...

www.realclearpolitics.com

The only reason we have an illegal problem and an illegal underclass is because right wingers have nothing but bigotry not any free market solutions at lower cost.

 

[danielpalos]

Not me for one, and sadly America can not afford this bill either.

All Democrats At Main Debate Agree Illegal Immigrants Should Get Health Care Coverage

MSNBC Democratic presidential primary debate co-moderator Savannah Guthrie asked the candidates to raise their hand if their healthcare plan would cover undocumented immigrants. "This is a show of hands question and hold them up so people can see. Raise your hand if your government plan would...

www.realclearpolitics.com

Yes they support it and they know we can't afford it, that's the point.

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, both professors at the Columbia University School of Social Work. The strategy was outlined in a May 1966 article in the liberal magazine The Nation titled "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty".

Many Americans who were eligible for welfare were not receiving benefits, and that a welfare enrollment drive would precipitating a fiscal crisis. The side consequences of this strategy would shore up support for the Democrat Party.

Cloward and Piven stated that full enrollment of those eligible for welfare "would produce bureaucratic disruption in welfare agencies and fiscal disruption in local and state governments" that would: "...deepen existing divisions among elements in the big-city Democrat coalition: the remaining white middle class, the working-class ethnic groups and the growing minority poor."

Cloward and Piven proposed to create a crisis in the current welfare system – by exploiting the gap between welfare law and practice – that would bring about its collapse and replace it with a system of guaranteed annual income. They hoped to accomplish this end by informing the poor of their rights to welfare assistance, encouraging them to apply for benefits and, in effect, overloading an already overburdened bureaucracy.

55 years later, the Left is still at it, only they have added; attracting illegal aliens, showering them with "free" benefits, even as they ship all our jobs to China.

They drove this strategy through the Democrat Party:

"Deeper and politically more telling conflicts would take place within the Democrat coalition...Whites – both working class ethnic groups and many in the middle class – would be aroused against the ghetto poor, while liberal groups, which until recently have been comforted by the notion that the poor are few... would probably support the movement. Group conflict, spelling political crisis for the local party apparatus, would thus become acute as welfare rolls mounted and the strains on local budgets became more severe.”

Reliance On Mass Unrest:

In papers published in 1971 and 1977, Cloward and Piven argued that mass unrest in the United States, especially between 1964 and 1969, did lead to a massive expansion of welfare rolls, though not to the guaranteed-income program that they had hoped for, but, they haven't given up.

When they saw that a national shutdown could be ordered they got excited. After all, do they not also believe that CO^2 will kill us all? Could not "Scientists" declare a health emergency with the solution being lockdowns to reduce CO^2 levels? Add this to shipping our jobs to China, attracting waves of illegals and putting them on welfare, food-stamps, social security and Medicare, and lockdowns, and they can destroy the US economy, which has always been their goal.

With the economy destroyed, they imagine that we will clamor for forced wealth redistribution and a guaranteed government check, and a small group will then have firm control over our resources and means of production, the fruits of which they will dole out according to their interests.

No thanks. Even if you hate him, the only choice in this election, is Trump.

Mostly just conspiracy theory that is too full of fallacy to be anything more legal than that.

 

[Staidhup]

We have a set of Laws governing legal immigration maybe its time the Dim's accept it. It must be hard to accept the reality that their cost of house cleaning, cook, pool, and landscaping will increase. Must be nice, however, I am not in the position to subsidize the rich for their upkeep, and Lord knows my children and grandchildren cant afford it.

 

[Tax Man]

I have been paying for the welfare republican Queens so what is a few more people. But at least the illegals work for a living.

 

[esalla]

Not me for one, and sadly America can not afford this bill either.

All Democrats At Main Debate Agree Illegal Immigrants Should Get Health Care Coverage

MSNBC Democratic presidential primary debate co-moderator Savannah Guthrie asked the candidates to raise their hand if their healthcare plan would cover undocumented immigrants. "This is a show of hands question and hold them up so people can see. Raise your hand if your government plan would...

www.realclearpolitics.com

The only reason we have an illegal problem and an illegal underclass is because right wingers have nothing but bigotry not any free market solutions at lower cost.

Which does not address the fact that you can not afford to pay for their health insurance

 

[Claudette]

Since illegals should be booted out of the country I'm sure no American will want to pay for their health insurance though by law every hospital has to treat their illegal asses.

These illegals cost we tax payers billions each year and every one of them should be booted out of our country. Anyone hiring them should be prosecuted.

 

[Zorro!]

We have a set of Laws governing legal immigration maybe its time the Dim's accept it. It must be hard to accept the reality that their cost of house cleaning, cook, pool, and landscaping will increase. Must be nice, however, I am not in the position to subsidize the rich for their upkeep, and Lord knows my children and grandchildren cant afford it.

Yup. All these laws, and yet they never seem to be enforced against the wealthy connected. I suspect that we need to do a better job, as voters, vetting our representatives and then holding them to account.

 

[danielpalos]

We have a set of Laws governing legal immigration maybe its time the Dim's accept it. It must be hard to accept the reality that their cost of house cleaning, cook, pool, and landscaping will increase. Must be nice, however, I am not in the position to subsidize the rich for their upkeep, and Lord knows my children and grandchildren cant afford it.

Abolish our worthless and alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror. All they do is create refugees for right wingers to also complain about. Foreign aid should be going to those nations experiencing the most emmigration to improve their local standard of living at home.

 

[danielpalos]

Not me for one, and sadly America can not afford this bill either.

All Democrats At Main Debate Agree Illegal Immigrants Should Get Health Care Coverage

MSNBC Democratic presidential primary debate co-moderator Savannah Guthrie asked the candidates to raise their hand if their healthcare plan would cover undocumented immigrants. "This is a show of hands question and hold them up so people can see. Raise your hand if your government plan would...

www.realclearpolitics.com

The only reason we have an illegal problem and an illegal underclass is because right wingers have nothing but bigotry not any free market solutions at lower cost.

Which does not address the fact that you can not afford to pay for their health insurance

Who's fault is that right wingers? There is no express Immigration clause in our federal Constitution, yet the right wing has nothing but Big Government solutions involving socialism on a national basis not any form of free market Capitalism right wingers allege to be for in socialism threads.

 

[esalla]

Not me for one, and sadly America can not afford this bill either.

All Democrats At Main Debate Agree Illegal Immigrants Should Get Health Care Coverage

MSNBC Democratic presidential primary debate co-moderator Savannah Guthrie asked the candidates to raise their hand if their healthcare plan would cover undocumented immigrants. "This is a show of hands question and hold them up so people can see. Raise your hand if your government plan would...

www.realclearpolitics.com

The only reason we have an illegal problem and an illegal underclass is because right wingers have nothing but bigotry not any free market solutions at lower cost.

Which does not address the fact that you can not afford to pay for their health insurance

Who's fault is that right wingers? There is no express Immigration clause in our federal Constitution, yet the right wing has nothing but Big Government solutions involving socialism on a national basis not any form of free market Capitalism right wingers allege to be for in socialism threads.

You need to take your medication before you try to organize a thought

 

[danielpalos]

Not me for one, and sadly America can not afford this bill either.

All Democrats At Main Debate Agree Illegal Immigrants Should Get Health Care Coverage

MSNBC Democratic presidential primary debate co-moderator Savannah Guthrie asked the candidates to raise their hand if their healthcare plan would cover undocumented immigrants. "This is a show of hands question and hold them up so people can see. Raise your hand if your government plan would...

www.realclearpolitics.com

The only reason we have an illegal problem and an illegal underclass is because right wingers have nothing but bigotry not any free market solutions at lower cost.

Which does not address the fact that you can not afford to pay for their health insurance

Who's fault is that right wingers? There is no express Immigration clause in our federal Constitution, yet the right wing has nothing but Big Government solutions involving socialism on a national basis not any form of free market Capitalism right wingers allege to be for in socialism threads.

You need to take your medication before you try to organize a thought

Nobody takes right wingers seriously about the law or economics.

 

[BrokeLoser]

There is no express Immigration clause in our federal Constitution

You’ve never heard of the Declaration Of Independence?
That doesn’t surprise me.

 

[pknopp]

You want them to pick and process your food but you don't want to make sure they are healthy while doing so.

You want them to care for your child but you don't want them to be healthy while doing so.

 

[BrokeLoser]

You want them to pick and process your food but you don't want to make sure they are healthy while doing so.

You want them to care for your child but you don't want them to be healthy while doing so.

This always fascinates me...it’s as if you people believe the majority of Americans hire illegal aliens.
What percentage of good real Americans hire illegals?
You must have the data...right?