Manonthestreet
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Whole point from day 1 was giving them nukes
who has more of your sympathy?
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Woodznutz
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Actually, it says but for the elect's sake all flesh would perish. So be thankful for we elect.
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No. It is apples vs oranges, why not make it between Palestinians and Netanyahu's Gov't or would that give a result you might not like. It should be either Israelis vs Palestinians or Netanyahu's Gov't vs Hamas. Either one would be a draw.
JoeB131
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Actually, it says but for the elect's sake all flesh would perish. So be thankful for we elect.
What I'm thankful for is that I live in the 21st century, where we've moved beyond bronze age superstitions.
Woodznutz
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Lots of these people around.
Lot of six fingered folks around as well.
Why 6 fingers per hand are better than 5
People with polydactyly — who have more than five fingers per hand — have better dexterity and rewired brains that can control these extra digits.
www.medicalnewstoday.com
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Woodznutz
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You're welcome to your world.
JoeB131
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Yes, I'm very happy I won't be stoned today for working.
Woodznutz
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That only happens in Muslim countries. If you read your Bible, you will note that law enforcement was given over to civil authorities in the new testament era. The church is not in the business of law enforcement. So, who is clinging to fables here?
RoccoR
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RE: who has more of your sympathy?
SUBTOPIC: HAMAS Invaded Israel after 3000 Rockets Indiscriminantly Launched...
※→ JoeB131, et al,
This is not helpful!
(COMMENT)
And this suggestion (go back to Europe) has no traction. Suggesting a course of action that is impossible has no value at all. I would venture to say that 70% of the Israeli General Population (nearly 10 million people)is native to the Region [Sabras (born in Israel)]. Of the remainder, only ≈ 60K people have recently migrated from Europe. Most of the current new immigrants are from the Americas and Oceania (in 2022 was 5,493).
Most of the Gazians voted for HAMAS. In fact, The Islamic Resistance (HAMAS) initiated hostilities.
If my memory serves me right, that vote was a matter of some very serious (USMB) discussion. Many of the anti-Israeli and pro-Palestinian USMB members (back then) registered their dissatisfaction that Mahmoud Abbas still became President. HAMAS was able to secure control over the Gaza Strip. Such political support and the following 17 years of continuous facilitation (political and civil) the General Population have shown for that Islamic Resistance → has consequences.
Every significant conflict since then (2006 • 2008 • 2012 • 2014 • 2021 • and now) was precipitated by some provocative hostile action which triggered an Israeli military response. And each time, the anti-Israeli and pro-Palestinian contingent made an outcry in favor of the rabid Hostile Arab Palestinian and the Islamic Resistance (HoAP). The Gazian General Population did nothing but rejoice during and after each of these engagements and received tacit approval from the world (in general).
Well, once again, the Gazans allowed and supported the Islamic Resistance and are now in the sympathy phase (as in the past criminal behaviors for supporting a terrorist organization) when Israel responded; seeking international sympathy (Gazans claiming to be the victim).
Whatever hardships, humiliations, and indignities the Gazans are now weathering is largely of their own making, but not without some culpability by the many in the UN membership and the total selective enforcement they have for the Islamic Movements both in Gaza and elsewhere in the world.
AND
The position toward Occupation and Political Solutions:
Over more than three decades, The Islamic Resistance has played the roles of both International Victim and Jihadist. The unasked question in the subtext is: Can a Designated Terrorist Group claim to be a Victim and simultaneously a Jihadist?
This is very much like a Richard Feynman question: Can light be both a particle and a wave?
Most Respectfully,
R
SUBTOPIC: HAMAS Invaded Israel after 3000 Rockets Indiscriminantly Launched...
※→ JoeB131, et al,
This is not helpful!
(NEWS REFERENCE)
CNN World News said:
(COMMENT)
And this suggestion (go back to Europe) has no traction. Suggesting a course of action that is impossible has no value at all. I would venture to say that 70% of the Israeli General Population (nearly 10 million people)is native to the Region [Sabras (born in Israel)]. Of the remainder, only ≈ 60K people have recently migrated from Europe. Most of the current new immigrants are from the Americas and Oceania (in 2022 was 5,493).
Most of the Gazians voted for HAMAS. In fact, The Islamic Resistance (HAMAS) initiated hostilities.
PBS News Hour said:
If my memory serves me right, that vote was a matter of some very serious (USMB) discussion. Many of the anti-Israeli and pro-Palestinian USMB members (back then) registered their dissatisfaction that Mahmoud Abbas still became President. HAMAS was able to secure control over the Gaza Strip. Such political support and the following 17 years of continuous facilitation (political and civil) the General Population have shown for that Islamic Resistance → has consequences.
Every significant conflict since then (2006 • 2008 • 2012 • 2014 • 2021 • and now) was precipitated by some provocative hostile action which triggered an Israeli military response. And each time, the anti-Israeli and pro-Palestinian contingent made an outcry in favor of the rabid Hostile Arab Palestinian and the Islamic Resistance (HoAP). The Gazian General Population did nothing but rejoice during and after each of these engagements and received tacit approval from the world (in general).
Well, once again, the Gazans allowed and supported the Islamic Resistance and are now in the sympathy phase (as in the past criminal behaviors for supporting a terrorist organization) when Israel responded; seeking international sympathy (Gazans claiming to be the victim).
Whatever hardships, humiliations, and indignities the Gazans are now weathering is largely of their own making, but not without some culpability by the many in the UN membership and the total selective enforcement they have for the Islamic Movements both in Gaza and elsewhere in the world.
HAMAS Covenant (1988) said:
AND
The position toward Occupation and Political Solutions:
[/FONT]General Principles and Policies (2017)[FONT=arial] said:
Over more than three decades, The Islamic Resistance has played the roles of both International Victim and Jihadist. The unasked question in the subtext is: Can a Designated Terrorist Group claim to be a Victim and simultaneously a Jihadist?
This is very much like a Richard Feynman question: Can light be both a particle and a wave?
Most Respectfully,
R
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JoeB131
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Actually, the Church was very much into "Law Enforcement" all the way up until the Age of Reason.
Which is why you had inquisitions and witch burnings all the way up to the 18th century.
JoeB131
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You could say that, but you'd be wrong.
Most of the Zionist Squatters came from Europe. It's why you take any Zionist leader, and you'll find someone who came from Europe or their grandparents did.
Woodznutz
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I was referring to the true church, the one the great false church has persecuted for centuries.
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You idiot, you mean Isreal or Palestine.
And if anyone does not say Palestine, they are subhuman
JoeB131
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Sorry, man, the Catholic Church is the true Church. All the other ones started because Henry VIII wanted to
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RoccoR
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RE: who has more of your sympathy?
SUBTOPIC: The Term "Church"...
※→ JoeB131, et al,
I tend to think that you are oversimplifying this just a bit; even for the Catholics.
The terminology "Church" in the greater Catholic Overview is seen in three conceptual ways:
◈ Historically
This often deals with the papal biographies, views on the martyrs, and information pertaining to the founders of religious orders, in distinct chunks of time periods, and localities.
◈ Institutionally
This is when Catholicism is viewed in terms of the papacy, the congregations, pronouncements, and biblical commissions. It also can center on episcopal conferences and leadership decrees.
◈ Theologically
This is, more often than not, about the dogma, mystical bodies, ecumenical views, and the meaning of the infallibility, the organization, spirituality, and the hierarchical structures. It deals with the rise and fall of
successive attempts to renew understanding of the faith and variations in the interpretation of the scripture. It delves into the beliefs surrounding redemption or divinization, the juridical or the ontological.
The "True Church" is a concept that is less deliberately pastoral and more academic orientation as considered essential by the "First Cause," the "Creator," the "Ultimate Power of the Universe," or the "Supreme Being."
The Catholic Encyclopedia, as we begin to explore the 21st Century, is huge → about 18 to 20 Volumes in length consisting of an average of 900 to 1200 pages each. As far as the Holy Trinity might be concerned [the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; the one God in three persons], the original supernatural, in all probability, never intended for the Church to become as complicated as it has become. Saint Peter, upon which the Son of Supreme Being built its Church, did not lug with him 20 Volumes of interpretations, definitions, explanations, and spiritual understandings.
The Church of two millennia ago, was meant for all of humanity to understand.
Just my two-cents worth,
Most Respectfully,
R
SUBTOPIC: The Term "Church"...
※→ JoeB131, et al,
I tend to think that you are oversimplifying this just a bit; even for the Catholics.
(COMMENT). The Short Thumbnail Aspect -Sorry, man, the Catholic Church is the true Church. All the other ones started because Henry VIII wanted to
The terminology "Church" in the greater Catholic Overview is seen in three conceptual ways:
◈ Historically
This often deals with the papal biographies, views on the martyrs, and information pertaining to the founders of religious orders, in distinct chunks of time periods, and localities.
◈ Institutionally
This is when Catholicism is viewed in terms of the papacy, the congregations, pronouncements, and biblical commissions. It also can center on episcopal conferences and leadership decrees.
◈ Theologically
This is, more often than not, about the dogma, mystical bodies, ecumenical views, and the meaning of the infallibility, the organization, spirituality, and the hierarchical structures. It deals with the rise and fall of
successive attempts to renew understanding of the faith and variations in the interpretation of the scripture. It delves into the beliefs surrounding redemption or divinization, the juridical or the ontological.
The "True Church" is a concept that is less deliberately pastoral and more academic orientation as considered essential by the "First Cause," the "Creator," the "Ultimate Power of the Universe," or the "Supreme Being."
The Catholic Encyclopedia, as we begin to explore the 21st Century, is huge → about 18 to 20 Volumes in length consisting of an average of 900 to 1200 pages each. As far as the Holy Trinity might be concerned [the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; the one God in three persons], the original supernatural, in all probability, never intended for the Church to become as complicated as it has become. Saint Peter, upon which the Son of Supreme Being built its Church, did not lug with him 20 Volumes of interpretations, definitions, explanations, and spiritual understandings.
The Church of two millennia ago, was meant for all of humanity to understand.
Just my two-cents worth,
Most Respectfully,
R
JoeB131
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Not really. For most of history, you had one true Church. Then 500 years ago, Henry VIII wanted to dump his wife.
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